Windows 8 Continues to Make Gains as XP's Share Erodes

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DoktorThomas™

Only the shallow resort to petty name calling to resolve things they don't understand. MSFT products are unintuitive. There's no logic to any MSFT software. Names and locations are poorly conceived. There is complete oblivion in MSFT planning and authoring to user desires and needs. Innovations are few or non-existent. Most products are previous poorly written code with tons of new poorly written and conceived code piled even higher. Any breakthroughs come only from buying other companies. What's to like about MSFT? They are big enough to fail. Add to that compliance with the criminals at NSA, and presto: who needs MSFT? Or, supports them?

win8 is win(H)8 because it has earned it.

Most of my 20+ PCs are XPSP3, but winME (millions of errors), 95 and 3.1 still inhabit a few. One is win7u, run in virtXP. NT is an excellent basic frame work. Even monkeys can type... apparently.

If win(H)8 has gained any market share (previous reports were entirely fabricated; do your own research), it is only because of undue pressure to eliminate win7 from new machines. Note that many corporate and other networked business users are still firmly committed to keeping XP (the reason the "for fee updating" for business has come to pass). win(H)8 will take its place next to wimME (millions of errors) and Vista. Nothing wrong with that. It is not nice to fool destiny.

Hopefully with Ballmer and Gates ejected, win9 will actually be worth trying. ©2013

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Carlidan

Hey bullwinkle, why create a new name, just to rant?

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lemuelpn

I give salute to Windows 8 for being so powerful, not just because the OS can run up to 16 terabytes of hard drive, can run 8 large monitors simultaneously and can not match even the most extreem processor avilable on the market today but because the OS even make the OS haters very8x sick. Totally Sick of it.

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Shalbatana

angry people with nothing to do by try and be heard.

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froggz

I have windows 8.1 preview in my gaming laptop and windows 7 on 3 other desktops. Once I got passed the Start button thing, 8 isn't that much different than 7, expecially since I'm using it in desktop mode. With that being said, I feel more comfortable using windows 7.

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Shalbatana

It's not that windows 8 is bad. Windows 8 IS indeed superior to windows XP and 7. It is not perfect. People don't like it for two reasons:
1) the metro/start issue(s)
2) big transition for IT depts

It has been avoided for those reasons, so we can send a message to MS that this was not how to handle a big jump in a user interface. However TECHNICALLY (this is a tech site, right?) no one can effectively claim XP or 7 is superior to 8. 8 is faster, more secure, more stable, supports more hardware and starts quicker, etc, etc. None of these facts are in dispute. So when we all talk about this, let's put our personal opinions aside and get the facts straight. An OS is not technically better just because we like it better.

Next, why do people here feel the need to bash someone else just because they disagree, or make a mistake in interpreting a statement? Are people so angry out there that they are just looking for a reason to attack someone? Correct them and move on if you so feel inclined. Why so mean?

All that said, I agree with the below comment that 8 will probably never surpass XP in adoption numbers. I'm not saying XP is better, I'm just saying 8's name is so tarnished that people will skip the upgrade and wait until the next version (9) comes out. That's fine. they can suffer with their slow, and un-secure OS in ignorant bliss until 9 comes out, and claim they were right all along. I'll be running my stable (if inconvenient at times) OS and laughing from afar.

(Sorry I'm letting the hate posters get the best of me. I should just ignore them. Not the win 8 haters that is, the "I hate everything and everyone" haters.)

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Bullwinkle J Moose

How is Windows 8 Faster?

Windows 8 will full format a 8Gb - 180X thumbdrive in 8 minutes (Patriot XPorter)
Windows XP will full format the same 8Gb - 180X thumbdrive in 8 seconds

Windows XP will boot to desktop on a 1st generation 330 Atom with 2GB Ram in 12 seconds from a now ancient compact flash card

Windows XP requires about 600 Megabytes for optimized installation

How is Windows 8 more secure?
Windows 8 is a Gov't sponsored spyware platform and a DRM minefield
XP-SP2 is not

And tell me why Microsoft Security Essentials can update while it is blocked in our Firewalls from accessing the Internet?

Any program that OPENS backdoors into my system has nothing to do with "Security"

Did you mean malware from the "Other" bad guys?
I have never had any virus or malware ruin my XP installation since I installed Driveshield

That is pretty freaking secure considering that I go to all the bad evil websites TRYING to get a virus or malware and have only service pack 2 without ANY Microsoft updates installed

Show me ANY website that can permanently destroy my XP installation and I will publicly proclaim Windows 8 to be more secure

Untill then....

YOU LOSE!

How is Windows 8 more stable?
Making all my applications portable eliminates dll conflicts and registry errors that cause blue screens of death

I haven't had a blue screen in years!

Does XP support newer hardware such as advanced format drives and SSD partition offsets?

Sure it does
Just download the free version of Acronis for Western Digital drives and partition your drives with that

Need trim as well?

Do a google search you lazy noob

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Shalbatana

Dear Mr angry and strikes at anyone who disagrees with you in the slightest,

Easy, you're talking crap.

formatting thumb drive: um. perhaps you were thinking the initial release of Vista? It had slow USB issues that were resolved in the first SP. My 512gb mechanical HDs format much faster than 8 minutes. I'm not sure what version of win 8 alpha you were basing your formatting times on, but the release version has no such issues. Can you provide the independent benchmarks that say otherwise?

XP booting in 8 seconds? not even on a clean install. My win8 does about 12 seconds though, and that's a cold start to login screen WITH tons of programs installed thanks to my SSD and 16gb ram. Oh wait, XP can't handle SSD's (or 16gb ram, or usb 3, or thunderbolt, or... ) without jumping through major hoops (if at all). Yes, you're right, it must be better. It just avoids these issues altogether.

win 8 bigger footprint? Why yes, there's a lot more in it. XP was known for "spagetti code" where they were constantly putting patches on top of old code just to get things working properly.

On identical side by side machines windows 8 will be faster in searching, opening programs, transferring files, error checking, look in the tech sites, it's all there. Or better yet, perhaps you should do something drastic, like TRY Win8 yourself sometime.

A govt sponsored spyware platform? Can you provide any kind of proof of this? Funny how you are the only one to ever mention it. None of the other tech sites that dissect such programs for a living have ever said anything about it. Unless you can prove it, your statement is speculation at best.

Security essentials... now there you have me. Yet, I am not, as you say, a noob, and I am smart enough to run something other than MS default antivirus. Oh wait, XP doesn't even HAVE any kind of default antivirus! You need 3rd party a/v with quite a bit of overhead that ties down your limited ram. And hey, if driveshield works so well for you that's great, but thank them for your security, not XP. You could just as easily run driveshield on windows 8. I can show you a bunch of sites that can install DoS attacks on your boot sector so you have to do a low level format just to get rid of it. Happened to me more than once on XP. Hasn't happened on windows 8 so far.

Oh and if we're talking strictly OS (we're supposed to be talking strictly os's here), how about that truly secure and reliable web browser that comes pre-installed on XP? It's much faster, more reliable and standards compliant than today's IE isn't it? (not that I'd use today's IE either).

Menatime, 8 comes by default with autoplay disabled, a higher level of security warnings and UAC, some of which XP doesn't even offer. In Win8 there are flaws, but have you SEEN the list of "high priority" security patches one has to install on a clean XP install? It's miles long. 8 also scans things like usb keys and external HDs by default. XP, well it still doesn't have a built in security scanner. So yes, 8 is more secure.

PS is XP recieving any more updates? Hmm....didn't think so. That's a security issue right there if you ask me.

So for stability, you're saying you had to completely alter the standard way of installing your XP programs to avoid BSOD's? That's absurd. I don't even know if a blue screen even exists on windows 8. Never seen one once. And I suspect if I ever do, it will be because of a hardware issue and/or sloppy software programming, not the OS.

XP does NOT support SSDs, it can be made to work with them through third party software and drivers. Natively? It wouldn't know what an SSD is. and trim support is unreliable on XP. YOU do your research....on your limited ram and partition sizes that is. XP had approx 60,000 bugs that they KNEW about at release. All that patching? That's why you had BSODs, incompatabilities and crashes. Oh and don't ever try to put XP into sleep mode.

And yes, I know how to do Google searches on how to hack my os for trim support and larger partitions....but I don't need to. My OS has such features built in:)

I'm sorry but your attacks on me are unwarranted and your arguments are irrelevant at best. Many seem unsubstantiated by anything but your own observations. If you can provide independant proof of what you say being true, side by side benchmarks done by those who do such things for a living, then I'll capitulate. Meantime I admire your loyalty to XP, but you're only getting left in the dust.

I loved XP, for YEARS I was a trumpeter of it's triumphs, but it's time has passed. If you want to hold on to the good ol days that's you're perogative, but don't attack me and call me names when you don't even know me, especially whilst spreading misinformation for people on a tech site. No matter how much you shout and call me names, it still won't fool anyone. It is a dying OS, we should remember it fondly, and let it die.

And FYI, I was programming in Basic and Pascal and hacking my 8bit OSs while you were still a gleam in your parents eyes. I'm anything but a noob.

It is not I who loses.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Dear Mr angry and strikes at anyone who disagrees with you in the slightest,

LOL

1. You never tried the "FULL" Format option in Windows 8 OBVIOUSLY!

2. A govt sponsored spyware platform?
Try reading the NEWS sometime!

3. 4. 5. etc.

Try actually doing the research yourself instead of believing what Microsoft tells you to believe

I also do not use Security Essentials but was testing the SECURITY of "it" along with 9 other antiviruses at the time

and who cares if XP doesn't come with a built in antivirus that YOU or I would not use even it it did?

I always install the most current antivirus Before I connect to the Internet which is easy to do when downloading it from a different computer

Your other points are pure nonsense as well

I never said XP boots in 8 seconds

LOL
You should have Rage Quit before you even started

Let me clarify it for you....
XP is ONLY better than Windows 7 and 8 if you don't like Gov't spyware and know what you are doing

You obviously don't

Now, pick up a thumbdrive and do a "FULL" Format before you can even BEGIN to comprehend how utterly wrong you are on every other point as well

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Shalbatana

point taken about xp not coming with an antivirus that anyone would use, but that WOULD make it more secure than it was, and that was my point. Anything is better than nothing.

xp boot time: my mistake, but I've still never heard of anyone but you claiming it can boot in 12 under any circumstances.

As for the rest, nothing more useful can come of this. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

In the future I would respectively ask that if you disagree with someone, that you refrain from becoming insulting, It contributes nothing to the discussions, and could drive people away from this website.

Me personally, agree or not, I like to hear what others have to say.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Great

You were wrong on every point!

Lets move on...

My copy of XP was highly optimized and tweaked to boot in 12 seconds by the way and the stock copy will never boot that fast in case you were wondering

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PCLinuxguy

the only problem is that you're comparing a modified XP to a stock 8 as far as boot time goes. stock vs stock 8 wins. And yes I've seen the tweaked XP before and it's pretty nice.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

"And yes I've seen the tweaked XP before and it's pretty nice."

How the hell could you possibly have seen the tweaks I made to a stock copy of XP?

and how do you know the copy of Windows 8 wasn't tweaked to the max to get the best performance?

You'd better be run a stock copy of Windows 8 without a start menu in daily use with an attitude like that....
and don't you dare ever boot to the desktop!

Everyone I know tweaks their own O.S. for daily use
Whether it's XP or Spyware Platform 8

Even Microsoft tweaked Spyware Platform 8 for better boot performance
Are you telling me that Microsoft CHEATED?

OK, Fine!
Without any tweaks or user intervention to skew the results, let's see how long it takes to boot a stock copy of each to the desktop...

I rebooted a STOCK copy of XP to the desktop in just under 30 seconds

After 30 minutes Windows 8 still only got as far as the Metro screen.....

I wonder how long we should wait for a fair comparison?

That is what you want, right?

XP wins again!

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PCLinuxguy

Wow. who the hell took a dump in your oatmeal this morning? I never said I saw your specific one. merely that I've come across various 'tweaked" versions of XP over the years and some were pretty nice.

As far as Win8 being "tweaked" maybe you need to switch to decaf and think for just a moment. I was referring to being tweaked by an individual or third party rather than from the OEM. Therefore a modified XP from you or a third party vs an OEM copy is null. oranges vs bananas there. However a stock OEM copy of XP vs a stock OEM copy of Windows 8 gives a better comparison for speed when benchmarked on the exact same hardware and BIOS settings, etc. We're talking OS vs OS with everything being equal..

Hell for giving you partial compliment with my previous post you sure got crabby. Nice to know that you're going to be a jerk regardless if a person is being mean or nice to you.

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davelray

What have you done to cause Windows 8 to boot up in more than 15 seconds? Even my son's old P4 laptop boots 8 up in 8 or 9 seconds. 30 minutes to the Start Screen? Really? Something's not right there bud. Either you've made changes somewhere or you've got a hardware problem.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Nothing

Windows 8 doesn't boot to the desktop in "Stock" form

A fair comparison of boot times would also require that an "Old" style BIOS be used for Both operating systems because UEFI is another "Cheat" that only works with Windows 8

Comparing Apples to Apples eliminates any unfair advantage that so many claim is fair for Windows 8 but not for XP

Eliminate the BIOS as a source of boot time differences and tell me again how Windows 8 boots in 8 seconds

Anyone who thinks Microsoft or anyone else can tweak Windows 8 to boot to the desktop faster than XP, yet refuses to allow you to do the same with XP is simply a cheater and a liar who cannot be trusted in anything else they do

Why would anyone call it a fair race to tweak Windows 8 at the factory to give 8 an unfair advantage over XP and then run it on a UEFI Bios to gain another unfair advantage and then say that I am cheating by tweaking XP to eliminate their unfair advantage?

I simply want apples to apples

What is the problem with that?

Try booting windows 8 on an XP partitioned and formatted 5400RPM drive

Can't do it?

Then don't tell me it's a fair race to boot Windows 8 on an advanced format Samsung 840 Pro

APPLES TO APPLES or GTFO!

Don't like those Rules?
Fine then I'll tweak XP as well

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davelray

Bullwinkle, I don't think the bios has a lot to do with boot times of Windows 8. For one thing, my son's Compaq evo N610 doesn't use an UEFI bios. It boots up in around 8 to 9 seconds to the Windows 8 start screen. Secondly, the reason Windows 8 boots up so fast has to do with it using a hybrid of hibernating system resources. In Windows 8, a cold start really isn't a cold start. Only the drivers get reloaded as if it were a cold start. When we compare one operating system to another, we rarely use an apples to apples comparison because to do so would negate any of the new technology that went into the newer operating system. Calling it a cheat isn't accurate either. Why would it be cheating to use what's part of it? It's a feature that makes it better than XP. It's why we upgrade our operating systems from time to time. To take advantage of those new capabilities. But, even if I turn that feature off, my son's laptop STILL boots to the start screen in less than a minute. So again, if your test system is taking 30 minutes, it's because you've set it up to do so, thus negating your claim because you forced the outcome that you want, OR you have a hardware issue. It's real simple. Win8>Win7>WinXP as far as the technology under the hood goes. And if you continue to dispute it, well then I guess you are just as crazy as everyone makes you out to be. And by the way, I've seen many tweaked versions of Windows XP. I even have one myself on a 4gb flash drive. And I've never seen one that boots up in less than 30 seconds. So if you have one, congrats, share instructions on making it so I can see it for myself.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

I believe I've already posted the tweaks I used over a year ago but I'll try to recall them here for you as I simply restore a backup of the tweaked OS now instead of reinstalling every time

1. Disable System Restore
Why? Because it only takes me 60 seconds or less to restore a backup if I ever do get a virus or malware

Go to control Panel \ System \ Advanced \ Settings \ Advanced (Again) \ Adjust for best performance of Background Services

Open MSConfig \ services \ and disabled the following >
Computer Browser
Indexing Service
Error Reporting Service
Netmeeting remote desktop sharing
Remote access auto connection manager
Remote access connection manager
Remote Desktop Help session Manager
Remote Registry
System Restore Service
Telephony
Terminal Services
Windows Time
Portable Media Serial Number Service
Automatic Updates
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Secondary Logon
Fast User Switching Compatibility

Then go to the Startup tab and disabled any startup components I am not using

Open Add or Remove Programs
Open Add or Remove Windows components
I currently have a bunch of crap disabled there>
Windows Messenger, Fax Service, Indexing Service, IIS, Management and monitoring tools, message queuing, other network file and print services, outlook express, windows media player, MSN Explorer
Accessories and Utilities\Games
Accessories and Utilities\accessories\paint, mouse pointers,document templates, desktop wallpaper

Run CrapCleaner, then fix Registry errors

Run Dustbuster (Removes aprox 500MB of Crap from a fresh Install)

Defrag Drive

Sorry but I probably missed a few things and cant recall what else

But that's a good starting point for you

It's a default test bed without drivers which add to the boot time and without an antivirus which will double the boot time

I have other backups with machine specific drivers that do not boot as quickly

So there you go

Default Windows install without any 2nd party software and tweaked for speed

Tweak Windows 8 for speed without any 2nd party software and I don't complain about it

I only get complaints when I tweak XP

That's So Strange!

It's like they either own Microsoft stock or are trying to force everyone onto a Spyware Platform

Maybe both

Note:
CrapCleaner and Dustbuster were portable versions and speeds were tested without backup software installed
No 2nd party software installed! (Windows ONLY)

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PCLinuxguy

Those are good tweaks for any Windows system though, and it helps make it more secure. Thanks for sharing

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Shalbatana

You've obviously invested a lot of time in tweaking XP to get it to run the way you want it. It's no wonder that you don't want to give it up.

I personally found that once I installed even one or two of my commonly used programs on XP, the OS boot time slowed back to a crawl even with disabling their startup "plugins". It was an MBR issue, not a configuration thing. I don't have that issue with win8, and haven't had to tweak or disable anything, and I have more on my machine now than I ever have...but hey, whatever. It's good to have a fast booting OS that has nothing major installed on it. Good for you if you got XP working where I failed. Again, I'm sure you spend many an hour working on it to get it just right. I just put in my usb key, typed a code, and I was up and running, but I must be doing something wrong if it came that easy.

I would point out that you've disabled half the features in XP (granted that most people never use) to get the boot times down, and that in itself means you are guilty of the same "cheats" you're saying windows 8 uses, but you won't listen so I won't bother. I myself have done most of what you've said to XP at one time or another, and I'll admit that it did get an incredible amount faster. Not 12 seconds boot faster, but hey maybe you have a better computer than I used to. I certainly didn't use a hack or third party software to trick XP into using an SD.

Unfortunatley I also found myself re-enabling almost half of those things because I didn't have access to some of the components that were disabled or not installed when I needed them for advanced computing. I needed parts of those functions and XP for some reason lumped features together and made dependencies that in many cases ended up being an all or nothing feature. That hassle was enough to drive me up a wall. But if you've never needed any of those features, again, more power to ya.

As a side note, UEFI is not a windows feature. It's a motherboard/bios feature implemented by a consortium that included, but was not in any way limited to, or even controlled by MS. Win8 capitalizes on that but hey that's advancements in technology for you. You call it cheating, I call it finding a better way of doing things.

All that said, I maintain that I am correct and you telling me I'm wrong with neither proof nor examples to back up your claims (other than double standards, rumors, and rudeness) does not make me so. Still, if it makes you feel better, you can say you won this discussion and are the better tech man. I'm fine with that. Readers will decide for themselves.

And as it seems you can't help but be rude, as the other posters above have experienced as well, I'll just ignore your manners and attitude from now on and chalk it up to a grumpy lifestyle.

Good luck with your XP. It sounds like it's great for you. In the future, when you're searching for more and more hacked drivers for future hardware, and more and more current software becomes inaccessible to you, and you have to find more and more workarounds to get security holes plugged that are only patched on the latest releases, I'll be with all the rest of us using the latest technology as quickly as possible, and then getting on with my life because it was just that easy.... and we'll both be comfortable knowing we were right.

Oh, and you can even have the last word too.

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maxeeemum

Say what you will but Windows 8 (any version) will never pass XP!

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DaveSidious

The list of improvements between XP and 7 are too numerous to go into. Even more numerous between XP and 8. Get a grip dude. XP is outdated and crappy, the only reason anyone still uses it is because they can't be bothered to learn something new (not that it's even that big of a learning curve).
The sort of morons who holds MS back by using the same old crappy OS for 4 years after a new version is release causing them to support a useless, buggy, insecure, outdated OS for years longer than it should. The only result is that you get left behind and everyone else has a usable OS with support from MS.

Install 7 or 8, and stfu with your bored rhetoric.

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maxeeemum

So you just joined a hour ago to say something stupid. You should learn how to read. I didn't say I use XP I said Win8 will never get to second place in used OS. In fact in 2015 XP will still be 2nd despite loosing support. That's how bad W8 is.

So moron you STFU and go away!

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davelray

Hope you don't have any money down on that bet maxeeemum. XP still in 2nd by 2015? Really? I doubt that highly.

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big_montana

Windows 8 is not a bad OS. It is the perception of it being a bad OS spread by people like you who do not use it that gives it that reputation because it does not have a start menu. Boo hoo and get over it already. Is Win 8 perfect? No, but then neither is ANY OS including Linux. There is more to like about Win 8 then to dislike. Printers, especially wireless printers, just work and install much easier under Win 8 then they do under Win 7 and XP, especially XP. With 8 it is turn on the printer power on your computer and your printer is installed and configured with no interaction by you. I could list a 1,000 other features that make 8 more compelling to use over 7 and XP but I Will not convince you as you have a closed mind so I will not try.

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maxeeemum

Ahhhhh! Wrong Big_M! I'm using Win8.1 Preview right now. A much modified 8.1 but Win8.1 never the less. I agree their are a few good changes under the hood in W8 but when it comes to functionality and out of the box usability Windows 7 is vastly superior. The "average" user cannot even use W8 without some type of help to start. And just because I and many others choose to point that out doesn't make it our fault for low adoption. Microsoft made their bed and now they must lie in it. M$ has no one to blame but themselves.

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davelray

Methinks thou dost protest too much maxeeemum. And I don't think those people you refer to as "average" are really that computer illiterate that they can't figure things out on their own after a few minutes of actually using Win8. At least I haven't met anyone that couldn't figure it out. But then again, maybe the people you know aren't so "average" after all.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

But why would anyone use a Spyware Platform and pay for their own enslavement?

Why?

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davelray

Because most people use what works for them. For you, it's your so called overly modified stripped down version of XP running off a flash drive. For others it's Linux or Android, but for the the majority, it's Windows. Whatever your flavor, use what works for you and they'll use what works for them. (I still haven't seen any proof that Win 7 and 8 are "spyware platforms.")

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Chad727

Because NEW! Shiny! Solid colors! Faster! (never you mind that MS can delete files off of YOUR MACHINE in Win8 via back door, you lost the start menu and WMC, or that Metro can burn in hell)

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Fruguy

While many people hate Windows 8, I see it as just a new version of Windows 7 with a tablet interface added to it. The lack of a start button can be resolved with a little program called Classic Start 8. It's not a bad operating system, in fact, it's pretty good if you have a touchscreen laptop or desktop.

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Sparx10

I prefer StartIsBack, extremely fast, extremely nice looking. $3 for lifetime license

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Hourly pimping of Windows 8....

I hope they're paying well.

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ChestyPuller

Windows 8 is a guessing game to any other user of a Windows Op. Sys. I had to buy a new Comp. recently I am lost on Win. 8 , Yes eventually I find my way around, but at this point, who wants to eventually do anything ? Except Have Sex
I will install a patch I heard about that gives you a Start button and such..I hope this helps, I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit update and I will wipe this and Install a clean version.. If it does not go well..
Win 8 seems fast, but going fast to no where is useless.

Semper Fi -

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Bullwinkle J Moose

dp

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Bullwinkle J Moose

dp

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firefox91

It makes a statement when an O/S that Microsoft is no longer pushing, and is no longer pre-installed on new systems, is seeing it's market increase. Windows 7 superior, Windows 8 inferior.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

DP

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Engelsstaub

"I h8 Windows 8! I need a start button that doesn't cost three bucks and what the hell happened to Aero?! I need my OS to entertain me rather than get out of my way so I can do things. It's all about shock & awe, people. Important things like Aero...I told Microsoft..well, I posted maniacal rants every other day on blogs and message boards...that I simply MUST see through the borders of my Windows. Do they listen to ME? NO. I'm going to start fires!"

"Keyboard shortcuts are hard. They hurt my fingers and I'd rather click a lot with my mouse than get things done. It's all about the shock & awe. I'm a Power User⸮"

"X-to-the-P-to-the-motherloving grave!!"

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davelray

Funny thing about Aero. It was one of the most hated features of Vista when it released. Yet now it's one of those "can't live without" items people keep clamoring for. Funny how things change over time.

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Engelsstaub

I always changed it to a solid color. It looks neat but it wasn't for me. I'm more of a minimalist.

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acidic

i need my precious shiny apple. you know, the one that sold over 9 million this past weekend and yet still lost marketshare. it happens to be the same one that has the most secure and technologically shattering fingerprint sensor that required a 1.73gb patch on day one due to it not working with itunes. i mean the one that can't be bypassed in ANY way. oops, that just so happens to be said sensor. or maybe it's the phone that is literally making people sick and regretting upgrading to ios7 to the point of them calling their carriers and requesting a iphone 5 back with ios6. all this goodness from the company who's maps app is STILL directing users into dangerous situations like across an active runway at airports.

we all know the users are stupid enough to follow the feminine voice of their prophet jobs. even barrack osama even compared the failure that is osama-care to the failure that is ios7. but it is all good especially when the batteries in the macbook pro/airs just suddenly stop and they have to admit they screwed up and have to release new firmwares. i guess all that pixie dust, mermaid tears, and locks of lord jobs' hair are loosing their magical properties. but we will all still stand in line for days before release due to "it just works"

edit: forgot to mention the failure of appleTV 6 being completely pulled offline due to bricking devices or screwing up connectivity completely

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Engelsstaub

Come get a hug, bro.

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spokenwordd

LOL that about sums up the typical Win 8 posts

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PCLinuxguy

LMAO
so true

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glpeter90

The fact that Win8 is picking up market share is really like saying it is getting colder outside. Well, it's fall. Anybody that is buying a pc in today's market and is planning on using Windows is either going to use Win7 or Win8. Since practically all new pc’s being sold have Win8 on them, it is going to pick up some market share. The real question will be when Win7 reaches the end of its life cycle. Will Microsoft have understood what the public was trying to tell them in their reluctance to adapt to Win8. Or will it keep insisting that it knows best, and since they have 99% of OS market share anyway, all they have to do is wait long enough, and when you have to upgrade, they will still be the only choice. I don’t think they have that luxury any more. I use to think that Linux would be the next big OS. It still might be, or will one of the new big hitters bring their wares to the market and ‘steal’ the gold ring. Remember Netscape ? Who had heard of Facebook ?

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PCLinuxguy

"Is Windows 7 the next Windows XP?"
It sure is. I saw it that way quite a while back once mass adoption began and how happy people were with it.

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Roku

The author forgot to add Windows 8.1 adoption to the number. Total market share gain for the month for Windows 8.x was 1.24%. Total market share gain for Windows 7 was only .8% for the month.

Windows 8.x now has about 9% market share.

Check the numbers at the original source.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Windows 8.1 Official adoption rate is currently at 0.00% per month

The Windows 8.1 official release date is October 17

Basing these stats on unregistered preview copies makes absolutely no sense since those people are generally the type who also try several versions of Linux as well

If unregistered and offline copies could accurately be tallied, XP would be well over 50%

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Carlidan

Just don't know why ever Windows article, you have to post. Yes, we get it, you hate windows and it's evil.