Windows 7 is Growing Too Fast for Windows 8 to Catch Up

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

There's a lot in Windows 7 that needs to be improved, and walling users off from the operating system with an impractical touch interface was a reckless move in the wrong direction.

XP is a better interface than Windows 7, because it is easier to customize application accessibility (the Start menu). Windows 7 represents a small movement (compared to Windows 8) to separate the user from the operating system. In truth, most new features were merely distracting from the underlying truth that Windows 7 was a less user-friendly experience than was Windows XP.

Windows 7 is a self-driving car. Windows 8 is a self-driving car that only takes us where it wants to go. The next operating system needs put users in control again.

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lordfirefox

The problem with XP is it's an obsolete 32-bit OS, restricted to limited memory configurations, and I know some people don't use over 2GB of memory but there is a growing number of people who use well over 8GB every day and XP's 3.7GB limit is not enough anymore.

Gamers especially. If you've checked the system requirements for new games coming out you'll see that 8GB is in the Minimum. 64-bit has opened the gateway for game developers to build bigger better games because they have access to larger amounts of memory and XP just simply will NOT be supported any longer in the mainstream.

Windows XP is to Windows 7 as Windows 95/98 was to Windows XP. Obsolete.

P.S. My games run faster on Windows 7 x64 than they ever did on Windows XP.

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Ashton2091

I think MS was counting on gesture base mice (as much as touch screen) for metro. Right around the time Win8 was released, Logitech and MS released quite a few gesture/touch mice. I considered buying one on amazon...they're fairly cheap...but I just didnt give a crap about them or Metro. I don't think they were expecting everyone to use touch screen monitors. Still...Metro should have been a option from the beginning. The new start menu in "threshold" update looks quite nice. At this point it's unknown if threshold will be a update/service pack or windows 9...but I have a feeling it will be to win8, what 7 was to vista.

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noobstix

My university after 10 (maybe more) are finally gonna go from XP to 7 soon. This would be the 2nd major upgrade to be done the time I've spent there (the first being single-core CPU --> dual-core CPU). Quite frankly I'm glad since I get sick and tired of those computers freezing up every so often when I'm trying to browse the internet for a class since they have a shit-ton of programs running in the background.

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Avenger42

NetMarketShareData does not give the number of hits (I think…)

Say you have 1,000,000 hits in February. You’ll have:
W7: 473,100 hits
W8: 106,800 hits
XP: 295300 hits

Now, if you have 965,374 hits in March (down trend due to tablet, mobile etc.):

W7: 470,813 (-2,287)
W8: 109,087 (+2,287)
XP: 257,658 (-37,642)

In this scenario, W7 hits are decreasing whereas W8 is increasing by the same number of hits (that's why I choose 965,374) even if its percentage share is increasing "slower"

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance."

That was Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer talking to David Lieberman of USA Today in 2007. His is the kind of vision and forward-thinking that is leading Microsoft straight into obscurity.

They can hold on to that same vision, clench it tightly with all the strength their egos can muster, or they can step the fuck back and try a little old-fashioned listening to their customers. They probably won't, because they're megalomaniacs who think they control the entire planet.

If Windows 9 tries to shove a phone interface down the throats of desktop users, no one will buy it.

If Microsoft employees continue the practice of ridiculing customers not fond of radical, poorly-planned changes, products, and services, no will will buy much of anything from them. The bullying of competitors can't be extended to include customers.

If Windows 9 doesn't address device drivers for legacy hardware, not many will buy it.

Build in partial virtualization for old 32-bit XP drivers and a safety net for older 64-bit drivers, then you have an OS enterprise and small business can embrace.

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maxeeemum

Will Windows 8 ever catch Win7? That's really funny! I think the question should be will Win8 ever catch XP?

I doubt it!

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jim hesse

With Windows' past it's likely that Windows 9 (or whatever it will be called) will likely do a lot better than windows 8 and it's already being developed. With Windows XP still holding onto more than 25% of users it's obvious that people are holding on to something solid that works the way they want it to. I understand the need for innovation but Microsoft insists on trying to force us into whatever path they see computers heading down instead of considering what the users want. I think their prediction of the PC being a dying breed and touch screens taking over was miscalculated. I personally tried Windows 8 a couple of times but found that it was terrible for using with a mouse and keyboard and I don't like touch screens. The learning curve was way too big in Windows 8. If Microsoft wants users to switch past Windows 7 then they will have to come up with something a lot more like what the majority of users want. One operating system for all devices just won't work.

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Jeffredo

Touch screens are useless save for phones or tablets. If you have a PC (desktop or laptop) with a proper keyboard learn how to touch type. I think all these "hunt and peck" people who totally lost or never had that common skill are what's driven this poking at a screen with a greasy finger like a five year old.

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Electrik

Does Vista even exist on any machines any more?

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Ghost XFX

It's still on mines and works well...as long as I don't update MS crappy security patches for it.

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aaronj2906

Only on machines where VISTA is compatible and Win7 is not. (I've seen plenty).

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wkwilley2

Most Vista Machines are compatible with Win7. The drivers use the same shell, so the drivers work cross platform.

Most people who haven't updated either don't want to spend the money on a copy of Win7 or just don't know any better.

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Renegade Knight

The world was ready for XP. It was a stellar upgrade at the time. The world was ready for 7. It was also a stellar upgrade.

While I like 8. It's just a mesh between 7 and Metro to enter the touch screen world. They are learning as they go but clearly they have a ways to go before the next stellar version that the world embraces.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Windows 7 was a sacrifice of work space management for 64-bit computing. Noting more.

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Ashton2091

THIS +1

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Kristine Johnson

I got Windows 8 Pro from designertechsoftware.com and it works just fine for me. I enjoy using cloud for my multiple tasks as an HR officer.

:)

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firefox91

The people have spoken, Microsoft. Windows 7 is preferred over Windows 8. I plan to hang on to my Win7 as long as I can. Please don't screw up Windows 9.

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Renegade Knight

I'm hoping they don't make 9 so that the only way to get software on it at all is the Windows App Store. But we shall see.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Then no one will buy it. They will continue with XP or 7.

Microsoft needs to be Microsoft, not Apple or Google.

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Volleynova

Windows XP is still used by 25% of all computers in the entire world. That is millions of computers worldwide, and guess what, it's still the XP. Windows 7 may never have as many users as Windows XP overall. As for Windows 8 and 8.1, it is growing, but Windows 9 will be here before 8 has any chance of nearing 7's population. 9 will also never meet 7's population with 9.1, or 10. etc etc etc rinse & repeat.

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wkwilley2

It already has, by a large margin.

"According to NetMarketShare's data, Windows 7 gained more than a percentage point in March, increasing its share of the desktop OS market from 47.31 percent to 48.77 percent (+1.46 percent). Meanwhile, Windows 8 and 8.1 grew from 10.68 percent to 11.3 percent, representing a 0.62 percent gain. As for XP, it's share of the market fell from 29.53 percent to 26.69 percent, a drop of 2.84 percent."

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Scatter

IMO there was never a need for a new Windows in the first place other than planned obsolescence.

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Renegade Knight

I think it was time for working touch screen support in the OS. But that could have been 7.1.

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hornfire3

honestly, i've tried 8 on a laptop, desktop, tablet, and i concluded that 8's performance is great but Metro UI is annoying as fuck. i know how to do some Metro UI maneuvers (like closing the bloated fullscreen app and shutting down), but for others like using the Mail app was pure hell. installed classic shell and my life just got easier. Love Windows 8, fuck Metro. I still have a laptop that runs 7, and it's great... except i can barely play much games due to lame specs.

btw Paul, M$ just revealed the new Start Menu for the Windows 8.1u1. It's basically the Windows 7 style start menu on the left... with Metro slapped on to the right side. sounds more like M$ listened to us, but still attempting to shove their Metro crap on us.

more info:

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-shows-off-the-start-menu-that-is-coming-to-windows-81

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Ashton2091

I read about the new start menu that's going to be in the "threshold" update on Paul Thurrott's site. It looks nice I think. Microsoft isn't abandoning metro anytime soon, if ever. My biggest prob with Metro is the full screen crap. If not having a full screen Metro start menu means having to deal with metro apps pinned to the new/classic start menu...im fine with that. Personally, I think some of the core metro apps (outlook, weather, etc) are nice. Just my opinion.

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John B Sayles

I went from XP to W7 and everything that pi**ed me off about XP was fixed in W7. I still love it. I demoed Vista and hated it. Tried W8 and do not like dirty fingers on screen (yeccchhh!). I hear W8.1 is good but I don't have a lot of incentive to change at the moment. I am surprised at the number of people who are bitching about *having to* switch from XP to 7 or later. It's not like this was a surprise. It's just time to upgrade your hardware and software. Come into the 21st Century, dudes.
The cheapest b*st*rds on the planet are *all the banks*, who are still running their ancient ATM hardware under XP. Eventually there will be a class action suit by *us* if they don't do it NOW. :-)

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RICHARD RIDDICK

Windows 8 and 8.1 are the new windows ME.

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Ashton2091

I hate when I see that comparison. I'm not currently using Win8, but I did test drive it to learn the ins and outs for a few months. I can honestly say, Win8 is nothing like ME. Windows ME was very unstable. Vista (pre SP1) is a better comparison to ME. Win8 has changes that some don't care for (including me), but it's stable.

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Bdiddytampa

8 and 8.1 are MASSIVELY more stable than ME lol

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JosephColt

That's a bold statement there, but not true.

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RICHARD RIDDICK

As far as popularity i think its reasonable to say.

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wolfing

Honestly, with 8.1 booting to desktop and the free Classic Shell, I get the under-the-hood improvements of Windows 8 and the desktop interface of Windows 7, the best of both worlds. But the name Windows 8 is sullied like Vista was, so I'm sure they'll hurry up Windows 9 with the option to completely remove Metro just like they did with Windows 7 and Vista.

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PCWolf

The Tablet Emulator known an Windows 8 has proven that most people do not want the Tablet/App experience on their home Computers. This effort to sell more PCs by making them perform and feel like a Tablet has failed miserably. The Only hope for Windows 8 is to remove that Metro/Modern UI & make Windows 8 look like Windows 7 in every way. But because Windows 8 has left such a sour taste in most peoples mouths, Windows 9 is the nest best hope.

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wkwilley2

Windows 7 is the new XP.

Glad that's settled.

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dbqfan

Win8 will never see the light of day on my desktop or notebook. It might be OK for a tablet but I will switch to an Apple (God help me) before I would go with Win8.