Valve's Second Big Reveal is a Steam Box Prototype with Third Party Steam Machines to Follow

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davelray

I don't think he's missing the point at all. I think he's making his own point. Until the Steam library has at least 80% of their games ported to Linux, with a large amount of the AAA titles along with it, there is little value to a Linux based SteamBox. Windows based pc's can play 100% of Steam's library. And I seriously doubt any SteamBox Valve puts out is going to be in the 400 to 500 dollar range the consoles are in AND be able to play the games with a decent frame rate. Newell is doing nothing more than what he's accused Microsoft of doing. Creating a walled garden for gaming, albeit under Linux.

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jgottberg

You aren't nearly as bright as your avatar. Have a good one.

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jbitzer

Hopefully because this will be a super small form factor low power machine that will do the main features I desire in a living room PC without all the bloat, noise, and giant footprint.

Guess we will have to see the specs when released.

As for buying a console, I prefer an ungimped experience with max players, high res textures and mods.

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jgottberg

@jbitzler - "As for buying a console, I prefer an ungimped experience with max players, high res textures and mods"

I'm sorry but with a super small form factor, low power machine, you aren't going to get the high res gaming experience you may be expecting. And with Steam, it's just as gimped of an experience as PS or MS.

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jbitzer

Steam is not a gimped experience, they actually made modding easier, and if the low power box is just streaming, it doesn't need to have powerful hardware.

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Granite

I don't know if you would have access to all your PC games on a SteamBox. Maybe if it is running Windows...maybe not if it is running SteamOS.

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tom_m

It's designed to play everything that has a native Linux version, and to stream everything else over a local network from a machine running the Windows version of the game.

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TommM

Exactly. Not to mention all the DLC available and user created content along with being able to share games with 10 friends that you don't get with consoles. Plus Steam has 3000 titles available, all of them at cheaper pricing than you can buy for the Sony or MS consoles. This is no doubt turning some heads at Sony and Microsoft.

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LatiosXT

Except the sharing thing is hokey (only one person can play it at a time, among other tings). Most of Steam's titles are Windows only, and while you could use WINE, it's not 100% even for games that should appear to have no issue playing it. And most of the games from AAA publishers that are cross platform end up being the same price anyway now.

There's also one other thing, publishers still pack third party DRM in with their games. The major western publishers either pack in their own or draconian DRM (Ubisoft and their UPLay, EA doesn't care, and Rockstar has it's thing), or they'll just continue to charge out the rear even though the game is years old (Activation). Most of the games that isn't trying to treat me like a thief or are trying to eat my money are from indie developers (most of which I don't care or end up on a console) or games better suited to a PC anyway.

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jbitzer

And what are the alternatives offering you? How hokey is xbox where you have to pay a live subscription for each player on the same console? Yeah, totally better.

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LatiosXT

Nice non sequitur.