Valve Assures Anti-Cheat Program is Not Recording Browser History

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vrmlbasic

I've always considered Steam to be a kludge-it looks like crap, took years to get features that should have been in on Day 1 (eg:custom installation folders) and is, at the end of the day, just a crappy web browser with some egregious DRM grafted on-and this revelation has not persuaded me differently.

...btw, I've finally been getting "cannot connect to Steam" errors that aren't accompanied by an "offline mode" button. I have now experienced not being able to game because of Steam's dumbass DRM design and it is brutal.

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LatiosXT

"egregious DRM grafted on"
At least it's better than the alternative. Unless you're one of those "No DRM ever" people.

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JosephColt

Also experiencing the "cannot connect to Steam" issues a lot lately.

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The Mac

There appears to be a steam update today, perhaps they are fixing it.

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The Mac

yeah, me too.

I find if i start steam stand alone rather than having it start with whatever games im firing up, it works more often.

I find it only takes 2 or 3 tries to connect, so not that big of a deal.

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dgrmouse

I absolutely agree, and I'm so pleased to see folks calling it as it is. I mean, at its core, Steam is a games distribution service, and they are /awful/ at their core competencies. It took them a dozen years to add any sort of queue reordering (what they have now is still far worse than what's built into many free web browsers), support requests of any nature take more than a week to get any response at all, etc.

With regard to VAC: I don't think it effectively reduces cheating in multiplayer games, I don't think that any gaming oriented program should ever be poking around in ring0, and I don't think it's made sufficiently clear what actions VAC monitors - am I subject to VAC when playing single-player games? Non-VAC servers? It's so mysterious, and mysterious software should have absolutely no place on mainstream consumer-owned machines.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Hey, why did valve ask for my password again today when valve was already activated?

I could not connect to the Steam network without entering a password but I could go online and play on any server in the History tab without re-entering a password

2 reboots fixed the problem and I could once again connect to the Steam network without re-entering a password but it seems pretty fishy

This has happened several time in the past few months

Is someone stealing our passwords or what?

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Caboose

You know, I think they're working with the NSA to get in to the backdoor planted in the onboard controller for your hard drive. They're secretly monitoring your DNS records and sending those back to a central cloud server to check for terrorist sites that you go to. They've secretly paid off ISPs and manufacturers of networking equipment to keep it quiet and deny everything.

I know this, because a friend of a friend of a brother's boyfriend's sister's best friend's cousin's aunt works very high up in the US government in a secret department that not even the President's office or the Military knows of.

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The Mac

did that to me last night as well, probobly just a force expired cache or something.

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JosephColt

Personally, I have my doubts about Valve, and their systems.

A lot of gamers are no doubt so charmed by Valve with their good deeds that they would likely choose to live in ignorance if Valve were committing mischievous deeds.

I don't like VAC, it's not an effective tool. If cheaters are going to use scripts they will have a secondary account for such purposes, and they can cheat for months, and up to a year, without being stopped unless an admin is in the room to protect a single server. Take into account cheap game prices they will be up and running in half an hour or less. VAC is a questionable system, and we don't completely know how it works, and they could be data mining us; what makes us so sure they wouldn't, because they are Valve?

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acidic

don't like it, don't use it. simple as that dumbass. no one will miss you

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Peanut Fox

Bad day at work today buddy?

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JosephColt

Thank you for your well articulated response.

If things are unjust in life you don't walk away, like NSA spying, you work to fix them if you like what you are using.

I'm not specifically saying Valve is doing bad right now, but I have my doubts about them in some sense.

I do have much sentiment for Valve, and for what they have done, but many men have gone a-folly by the desires they have betrothed whether it be willing or not. It is best to stay vigilant, and watch over that you wish to protect.

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lordfirefox

Hate to tell you but once you connect your computer to the internet you've already breached your own security.

I love how some IT guys think just because they're IT and know their shit their PC is an Impenetrable Iron Fortress of Invincibility but fail to realize that their firewall and AV are shit-all as soon as they connect their Impregnable fortress to the internet and expose the oh so vulnerable fleshy underbelly of their PC through their Ethernet port.

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froggz

I'm all for cheating in single player games. But what kind of lowlife gets their kicks cheating in multiplayer? If winning is that important for a person, that's just signs of much bigger psychological issues.

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Caboose

The same people that think CoD is the pinnacle of gaming and nothing else beats it.

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Innomasta

Oh my god VAC has been in existence for years, and only now people are bitching? Some twat noticed a few programming features of VAC that COULD tie into some kind of monitoring, made a big deal online, and now it's blowing out of proportion and bitches all over the internet are crying about it. NONE of you are that important, I can guarantee it.
-end rant

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acidic

people these days got to have their voices be heard. so they will bitch just to bitch. i can guarantee you that when the seasonal sales roll around that not a single person will be bitching or even remember this "issue"

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Mikey109105

I believe Mr. Newell 100 percent!!!! (sarcasm)

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mbreslin

Vlmbasic, don't be an idiot.

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mattman059

+9000

Original comment is now OVER 9000!

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maleficarus™

+1

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LatiosXT

I'd trust Valve over the cheaters if it comes down to touching DNS caching.

How do I know the cheaters aren't going to poison my DNS cache?

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Innomasta

Never been burned by Steam or Valve, no reason to start worrying now.

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vrmlbasic

So Valve is monitoring outgoing transmissions from my PC, and is probing around in my DNS cache?

What other nefarious things is Steam doing to my machines?

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Random

Valve is cataloging your porn collection and emailing a full report to Gabe Newell.

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smashingpumpin

D'you think he secretly keeps copies of "Fat guy + Hot chick" ones?

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wolfing

are you looking at MY DNS cache?

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Rift2

Gabe doesn't care about anything....

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The Mac

We've all seen Gabe, im pretty sure porn is top on his list.

lol