Posted 09/30/2009 at 03:37:59pm

I dont particularly like like the idea of wireless towers all over the place either.  But from a business standpoint, it makes sense.  Of course they need to look at things like how much it costs to operate that system as well.  When doing that, fiber or copper in the ground may still be a winner.  Doesnt cost much to maintain those systems once they are buried providing some dumass doesnt dig it up.

If the taxpayers are footing the bill then damn straight it needs restrictions.  I agree 100% on that.

I can understand why everyone is up in arms abotu metering service.  If its done right, its shouldnt be a problem.  If corporations get their fingers into it too much, itll be a mess.  There needs to be a balance.  Cant be all one way.

Posted 09/30/2009 at 02:18:42pm

Since you seem to be having a hard time reading my 5 other posts...

What Im saying is that business wise pouring 50 million into new infrastructure, EI new fiber/copper, is not economically feasible for say a $500k return at best per year.  Im taking a guess on that BTW, but it does hold up.  No business in their right mind is going to spend $5000 to get you internet access out in Timbuktu so you can pay $25 a month.  Your looking at 17 years to pay this off, and thats if you took all the money coming in and just used to pay for the wire in the ground.  I will probably be something closer to 40 or 50.

We need to find a way to get these people connected WITHOUT digging holes and laying fiber/copper.  Wireless is the best route here.  Towers are a hell of alot less pricey then cable.

If anything our prices need to go down.  Case and point, user Biceps posted that they pay $70 per month for their hi-speed with a 250 gig cap they never hit.  Why not set his soft cap, which can be exceeded, at 100 gig?  When they exceed that cap, bump them into the next rate plan for the month, then back down to original the plan.

Posted 09/30/2009 at 01:30:53pm

No we shouldnt be happy with it.  But we need to make a switch away from burying mile after mile of copper or fiber in the ground.  It just doenst make sense to try and get it done this way.  It works in a metro area but not all in rural areas.  Before I got into IT, I worked for a cable contractor and can tell you first hand, digging holes in the ground is expensive.

We need to switch our more rural areas to a wireless tech that can carries a 3meg signal minimum.  That alone would boost the US into the top 5 for wireless speeds worldwide.

Belgium is a tiny country as well. If you see all the top 10s could fit into CA or TX.  All boils down to my last post.

I sincerely hope that the government, when its start handing out its welfare checks to the ISPs for improvements, actually makes a difference this time.  Unlike the last time they gave money away and the ISPs did nothing.

Posted 09/30/2009 at 12:53:12pm

The largest problem the US has is population density isnt nearly as high.  We have rural areas.  That alone scews the results somewhat.  I live in a small town.  You can either get DSL thru Verizon with 3meg or 8 meg thru Charter.  Pick your poison.  Hi density countries like Japan do not have as much infrastucture to keep up to date.  Less infrastructure equals less money updating said infrastructure which turns into higher speeds for the customer.

The flip side of the coin is greedy corps not wanting to invest back in their infrastructure, which does caa our speeds and access as a whole.

Its a mix of both.  Do you concentrate on New York City (hi pop) or rural Nebraska (lo pop) to do your network upgrades?  What makes more business sense?

Posted 09/30/2009 at 12:47:04pm

Bring it on.  Ive got my flameproof gloves on!!

Posted 09/30/2009 at 12:46:17pm

I agree, you should be paying LESS. Thats the point.  Most people dont abuse their connections.  Its the few asshats that do, that can and will slow your connection down.

Ass farr as my speeling, no speelchecker on theze forems.

(mutters something about better things to do than proofread my Max PC forum posts..)

Posted 09/30/2009 at 11:57:31am

Yeah Ill probably get crucified for saying that.  But most people dont have a clue.  ISPs have to pay for that fat pipe that runs to their head end somehow.  Fiber isnt free.  What I dotn want to see is ISPs filtering my content, shaping my traffic, or using deep packet inspection.

If the prices were tiered out correctly, it would be fine.  You would pay for X ammount, if you use more they bump you to the next tier for that month, then back to your base tier the following. The actual speeds your getting needs to be figgured in as well.  You should pay less for a 3 meg connection than they guy with a 30 meg connection as well.  Requires a hell of alot less overhead to run at 3megs than 30.

For instance, my mother has no use for unlimited internet.  She looks her email, and maybe reads CNN everyday.  She would get by just fine on next to nothing.  Cost should be cheap, like $10 a month.  Right now shes paying $20 a month for a 256k connection because thats all she can get. 

Myself, I run a little Bittorent, look at Youtube once in awhile, stream music, play MMOs, and probably use more than my share of the available bandwidth.  Would I piss and moan if Verizon charged me more?  Probably not, but my service better get better, ei faster, if Im using more bandwidth.  I pay $35 a month now for a 3meg connection.  Id gladly pay $50 a month for a 15 meg connection, with a soft cap of say 100 gigs before I jump into the next tier.  

The idea behind this is to control the idiots that abuse their connections, ruining it for everyone else by flooding the network, which does happen.  If you want to fileshare 24/7, share your internet with the neighborhood, or do other stupid things, you should have to pay for the priveledge. God forbid you may have to pay for your share.  This country has turned into a bunch of sniveling, whining, self entitled, little bitches.

People have to remember that information isnt free.  Storing it cost money.  Transporting it cost money.  And making it available costs money. Get a decent degree and work in the IT field as more than a phone jockey and youll find that out quik.

Posted 09/30/2009 at 11:25:20am

I used to work for TDS Telecom.  They oversold their bandwidth ALL the time.  People would call and complain about not being to do anything on the internet.  Id have them run a speed test.  They would pull 300k instead of the 6 meg they were paying for.  Transfer to customer service for incoming rant...

ISPs need to be help accountable for this.  Its false advertising at its finest.

I use Verizon DSL at home.  3 meg down, 768 up connection.  I never have any problems, speeds are always at 3 or slightly faster.  People ask why I dont get Charter cable.  Its because they oversell their network as well.  Paying for 8 meg and getting 1 is not kosher.  Not to mention having to reboot my modem a couple of times a week isnt kosher either.

Posted 09/28/2009 at 12:23:15pm

or is this guy full of ....

I must be the only one to see this:

Intel DX48BT2 Extreme mobo, two XFX GeForce 9800 GPUs - SLI not happening on n X48 unless hes using a hacked HAL.dll, which is doubt because this noob cant even set up his memory correctly.

Posted 09/16/2009 at 10:20:14am

Heat pipes and lots of copper fins.  Very manageable.  Look around the web some.  Google Sager NP9280 pics and youll find something.