Top 8 Apple Successes and Failures

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popetorak

VisiCalc was actully slow and almost useless untill it was ported to the IBM PC

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Wily_One

The IBM PC had a slightly higher clocked processor, but the difference in real world speed wasn't much. VisiCalc worked fine on the Apple II and many businesses used it on that system.

The reason the IBM PC became dominant was the cachet of IBM's name in the business market. The first PC was no technological wonder.

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popetorak

"Apple II ushered in an era of small, reliable, and relatively affordable computers for the home environment."

The industry was going just fine without them.

" Apple made more money selling one iMac than HP did selling seven computers."

Because they are overpriced.

"Apple did take this idea from Xerox"

You mean stole.

"Apple made a fantastic decision going with Intel processors over IBM’s Power PC platform. "

Because Power PC was a failure. Of course a year before the switch, jobs was swearing how much better PowerPC was over Intel. Had charts, graphs and benchmarks, too.

" it also allowed Macs to run on Windows if need be."

Running a competitor OS because you cant run the necessary software and/or hardware for business or home? Thats a failure

Macs/ OSX are a failure because its never gotten more than 5% of the market.

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TheRyGuy

Could Apple letting Bungie get bought by Microsoft be considered a failure?

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vrmlbasic

Would Bungie have been as successful if it hadn't been bought by M$?

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MAIZE1951

The Apple G4 Cube computer seems to be an product that was ahead of its time, witness the popular small form factor ITX computers of today that run Windows.

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Bdiddytampa

At least those are upgradable though lol :-P

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MAIZE1951

Exactly.

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stradric

Don't all Macs have a "limited upgrade path?" If anything, that benefits Apple because people need to completely buy everything new (including the monitor) when it's time to upgrade. And they do.

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jgrimoldy

I'm surprised this concept doesn't piss off more folks. Anyone with a first-gen iPad has found that apps like NetFlix are no longer compatible since iOS updates stopped at 5.1.1 on it. The first gen iPad was discontinued just a little over 3 years ago.

These retailed at $500 - $800(ish), depending on options. I spent less on Windows laptops prior to the iPad's 2010 release that STILL WORK with everything (within reason - many Steam games require a lot of horsepower).

It seems Apple regularly shits on its customers. Their products, particularly the iPad are very well built and are pretty. However, compared to a Windows 8.1 tab w/USB, MicroHDMI, and MicroSD, the iPad looks like a limited, infantile, yet ridiculously expensive toy.

Apple claims their products have the features customers want. I beg to differ. Apple seems to dictate to customers what they should want and says (along with their fanboys) STFU when users say otherwise.

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Chad727

I've always found the iPhone's lack of NFC a glaring flaw. Being able to bump a tag and write/read a small note or change a bunch of settings is something that iPhone users are missing out on.

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LatiosXT

I looked over features the new OS X is offering and I thought... This is basically the unified ecosystem Microsoft's been striving to do.

Microsoft needs to learn a few things here.

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Mediziner

I'm assuming that Gordon didn't write this post.

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leftfield2263

The only thing you're missing is OS X Lion. I was working for Apple Computer Tech Support at the time. It was a royal s*** storm. Apple encouraged day 1 downloading/installing/upgrading. I broke everything! Even the website used to determine eligibility for the upgrade. Lol good times.

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Engelsstaub

iCloud really has been a real pain in my ass lately and, even though I currently use an iPhone, I use Google Maps.

Regarding the iPod: I think the Zune was a decent competitor from a hardware perspective. The software was a nightmare and Microsoft just generally fucked it all up themselves...as they are lately often wont to do.

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wkwilley2

You're spot on with the Zune. I have the original 30gb and a 32gb HD and loved them both, but the lack of app support and adoption by the public in general is what killed them.

Even with that said, these devices still work the same as they did when I bought them and I've rarely ever had any issues with either of them.

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Wily_One

Maybe all the MaxPC writers are too young to remember, but you missed two rather important entries in each category:

Success:
Apple II
The machine that spawned the microcomputer revolution in general and the Apple add-on market in particular. The latter includes companies we still know today like Kensington.

VisiCalc, the first microcomputer spreadsheet program, was written on the Apple II and was what convinced IBM there was a market for micros.

Without the Apple II, there would have been no Macintosh and Apple would be but a footnote in computer history.

Failure:
Apple III:
Basically not much more than a glorified Apple II with a few add-ons and aimed at the business market, but was much more expensive and was plagued with comical manufacturing problems. (Chips would literally pop out of their sockets.)

With low sales, high return rates, and bad street cred, the failure of the Apple III allowed IBM to sweep the business market with the release of the first IBM PC. Apple was relegated to niche status ever since.

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popetorak

"spawned the microcomputer revolution"

No, it didnt

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Wily_One

The Apple II started shipping on June 10 1977, and it was the first fully assembled microcomputer system (just add monitor). Everything that came before were "kits" or bare motherboards.

That was before the followers PET, TRS-80, Atari 800, etc.

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jimmthang

The Apple II was supposed to be on this list and was accidentally omitted due to an error. It's updated and is now on the list!

Thanks,

Jimmy

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Wily_One

Thanks.

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ApathyCurve

VisiCalc... wow. There's a blast from the past. As for the Apple III, I'm pretty sure that had been successfully purged from my long-term memory until you stuck it back in there. Thanks a lot. =P

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chriszele

Thanks for the comment!

Yeah, the Apple II was a success that wasn't on the list, good catch.  

I didn't know about VisiCalc, so thanks for pointing that out! 

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shenmue37

Agreed on the above. Also the Pippin game console was a pretty massive failure on Apple's part. Especially considering the timing and the industry they were trying to break into.