Still Committed to Small-screen Windows Tablets, Lenovo Insists

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Why would anyone want a money sucking whore for a tablet?

If it doesn't stream everything, or refuse to boot any other OS on swappable micro-ssd thumbdrives or even have the minimum of 8GB Ram, and cost less than $200, why would you buy locked down mini extortion machine/spyware platform that is only good at doing what complete strangers like to do with your computer whenever you are online?

Why can't you use your stuff for what "you" want to do?

FAIL

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LatiosXT

Because those are your requirements. If you want all that, you can keep rambling on like an old man who keeps telling kids to get off their lawn. And you know, if nobody is making products to fit your needs, why aren't you going out there trying to solve it? Nothing ever productive was done complaining all day.

Then again, given your amount of paranoia, you probably shouldn't be touching any hardware. You don't have access to Intel's or ARM's designs. Or RAM chip manufacturer's. Or Wi-Fi adapter designs. For all you know, your hardware could be spying on you and reporting everything to the NSA right now regardless of how much "control" you think you have.

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Hey.That_Dude

This is an actual issue with some stuff coming out the Chinese market, especially in the USB perriferals market.

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LatiosXT

This is why I like bringing this up to the tinfoil hats (and the FOSS people sometimes). They complain that they have no control over software, they can't see the code, they can't compile it themselves... but they have no issues thinking their hardware is peerless, and none of the hardware that goes in a computer is open source.

Sure you can find the PCB drawings and such for some boards, but again, you don't have access to processor design, or the memory design, or whatever and even if you did, you still have to trust the fab that made them, etc.

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jason2393

I have a 64GB Miix 2 8. One of its few black marks: 2GB of RAM. No 8-inch full Win 8 tablet I've seen has more than 2GB, which doesn't make much sense to me.
These 8-inchers have more CPU and GPU power than the Dell laptop with a decent Core 2 Duo that I got in 2010. It had 2 GB of RAM, and it crashed because I ran out of memory on day 1.
I don't expect upgradeable memory in an 8-inch tablet, I just want the option to buy it from the factory with more! Is that too much to ask?

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LatiosXT

Here's the thing: What are you trying to run that requires more than 2GB and depending on your answer, why are you trying to do that on a computer like this in the first place?

I bought my Win8 Atom tablet with the requirement that all it needed to do was last a very long time (8+ hours), browse the internet, play music and video, and light productivity work. It didn't need to run games. It didn't need to render anything. It didn't need to become a productivity powerhouse with 10+ tabs on the internet open with a dev IDE and an image editor going on.

And the tablet met all those requirements and then some. If I wanted to do any more, I have another computer for that job. Also my tablet shows that Win8 surprising has an amazingly low RAM usage of 350MB (of course, after a cold boot and idling for about 10 minutes). I've not seen that low of memory usage since Windows XP. And the lowest I've seen Windows 7 go down to was 700MB-800MB.

Also I too had a Dell laptop (Inspiron 1520) with 2GB of RAM. It had Vista on it as the OS, known for happily eating 1GB of RAM, and I never had a memory issue, even when I was running games like Crysis and Company of Heroes. When I upgraded it to Windows 7, I got more or less the same experience.

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Cyk0

Most 8 inch windows 8 tablets are using a 32bit version of the O/S and would only be able to see 3.5gb of RAM anyways. Since RAM modules usually come in even numbers of gb's, its sensible to only ship it with 2gb. Also 2gb for 32bit is like 4gb for 64bit In terms of software RAM applications and a logical assumption that you would not be using RAM heavy software on such a light duty device

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jason2393

Don't forget about integrated graphics, which has to take a piece of that 2GB. To me, the reason for a Windows 8 device is that it can do more than iOS or Android. That's the point of having a bigger OS: I can do more. The 2GB of RAM limits my ability to use it for tasks that my iPad can't handle. It's easy to eat up RAM these days, what with all the memory leaks in Win 8 software that are much less of a problem for iOS and Android, whose multitasking ability is still comparably infantile.