Steam Removes a Defunct Game From User Libraries

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SCSA420

F-CK STEAM they would be refunding me or getting DDoSed by anonymous. I only use "Warez Scene releases" for PC gaming or store bought pc games and to be honest the Playstation 4 and Playstation 3 I own are better then PC's for gaming anyways and I'm an old school PC gamer going all the way back to Commodore 64 days. My current gaming pc: liquid cooled Core I7 3960 cpu, 16 GB of DDR3 ram, 25 TB hard drive space, dual SLI Nvidia 780 graphics cards. That can handle any pc game easily.

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jbitzer

No one cares, and the tough guy stone cold bit was lame when he did it like 10 years ago.

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SCSA420

Guess what ask me IF I care what you or anyone thinks? I DON'T CARE!!! And speaking of LAME it takes a LAME ass MF'er to know one jackass and that's the bottomline cause StoneCold said so!!!

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Typo91

Hey I agree with the "F*CK Steam" part, till reading this i had no idea we didn't own the games, I thought they where ours, I didn't know they could just yank them out of our collection whenever they wanted! That is wrong.

But lets be honest, no one has the resources to DDoS them. And that isn't gona make us ignore the sales.

I love the classic rage post, ending in specs list, you may as well just post your penis length instead!

The more interesting rigs (like mine), arn't posting what they got, because doing so would make them a potential target.

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jbitzer

I know right? He's an impotent little man child trying out his big new angry words. I'm sure Anonymous would jump to DDOS on your command, dawg. You cool, you remind me of my 14 year old nephew and all the crap he talks about cars he knows next to nothing about.

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BadCommand

This makes me so upset, why I'm going to head over to Steam and...and... buy another sale game.

Move along people, the money I've saved buying from these nearly quarterly sales far outweighs the cost of one underplayed and defunct games.

Steam isn't going anywhere.

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Trooper_One

That's not cool but then again, their user agreement is stacked against the purchaser of the licence.

PS: As of New Year 2014, 5:30PM, Steam is down... gahhhh!!!

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vrmlbasic

Another fear about Steam is getting closer to happening :(

This is yet another reason why games need to bring back LAN multiplayer. One of the more recent "AAA" games, and one of a very select few in general, to have LAN multiplayer is a pretty crappy console port-Borderlands 2.

LAN multiplayer: an outlier on both the consoles and the PC :(

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BloodDonor

Anyone in New Zealand is still entitled to a refund :)

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vrmlbasic

Well this sucks. One of the greatest fears of Steam has come to pass. There are reasons-excuses-to try and justify it in this instance but it still happened and it's all downhill from here.

Amazon's confiscation of kindle ebooks killed that for me and this has turned me off from steam moreso than I already was. Of course, I can buy real books but there are many, many games that I can only procure through Steam. :(

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BrainFlush

I lost count but I own a nice chunk of games no longer for sale on Steam. Some I paid a good amount and worked hours to hunt down. I would be enraged if Steam removed them from my library. 818 games and 777 dlc as of now.

I understand them making it no longer available to play but leave it in my library. Hell give me a badge or something saying I have stuff you can't get. Compensate me for it in some way and I can live with the fact I can't play it whether it is Valve or the Games companies fault. But don't make that library image disappear.

I sit sometimes and just scroll through my collection for no reason other than to see how long it takes me to get to the bottom.

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Jacobwt226

LOL, you do that too?! I thought I only did that scrolling to bottom to see how long it takes thing!

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SuperSATA

I'm pretty enraged already that they did what they did. If there's one reservation I have for PC gaming, it's the fact that I don't have cases and game disks for my games.

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Peanut Fox

I don't know about many other services, but Steam has an option to back up game files you've downloaded to a HDD. You can also save them to a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray if you wanted to. From there it's just a matter of tucking it into a case with some cover art.

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vrmlbasic

Can those backups be restored if Valve purges the game from Steam libraries, as it has for this game?

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BrainFlush

I have all 1000+ games on external HD drives from Steam/Origin/F2P etc and some games from Steam can be run without Steam/Origin I just don't recall which ones. But if the game is MP and those servers can't be hosted by you, well that game is dead unless somebody codes an all new network blah blah blah you get my point.

He who scrolls to the bottom fastest doesn't win but must spend more money!

Also I just found out about Steam Enhanced extension for Chrome or Firefox, Google it. Pretty cool little app.

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smashingpumpin

Anyone know how cumbersone Square's "log-in DRM" is? Is it as annoying as Windows Live? I've yet to buy FF7 and 8 from Steam's sale event.

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Cy-Kill

'...Valve did something back in September that it has never down before...'

Shouldn't that read:

"...Valve did something back in September that it has never DONE before..."

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Gauntylgrym

Regardless of contractual agreements and whatnot, Valve could have gone a LONG way towards winning even more hearts by simply refunding those admittedly few players the cost (or a portion) of the game. It wouldn't be a drop out of the bucket for Valve to do so, and would garner so much positive press instead of this slight darkening of the proverbial eye.

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The Mac

Valve did give store credit to some

But honestly, it wasnt their problem.

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Renegade Knight

I understand that the company pulled the plug. That the company chose to be asshats and not release a patch enabling the single player game without the server check in. Still it is Steams problem. They pulled the game from their platform. It erodes my faith in their platform. It's as simple as that.

Going forward I'll see what Steam says. If they say. "We won't do that again". Cool. They learned. If the don't. It means I'll be spending a lot less money on Steam as the risk of buying games I'll play someday also becomes the risk that I may never get too.

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Gauntylgrym

I totally agree on the technicality and legality that this was not Valve's problem. But at the same time it was a golden opportunity for Valve to garner yet even more good will...and cheaply (if not free by simply giving the aforementioned store credit to everyone that had put money toward the game).

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Scatter

I'd love to see someone in the media push both Valve and Square for comments on the matter.

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dgrmouse

Even if Steam sheepishly admits that the situation stinks for customers, folks will for some reason defend Valve and even applaud them.

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misterz100

"Forbes, which picked up on the story courtesy of a Reddit post, notes that the game has 18 single-player campaigns to play through, but since Square Enix implemented an always-on DRM scheme and than abandoned the title, even that portion of the game remained unplayable."

Why have a game that's Unplayable in the library? At this point just pirate the game.

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Scatter

The point is that it's unplayable out of design.

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glpeter90

No soup for you ! Steam/Valve does pretty much as they like. They count on the masses, and just like lemmings. I won't say that they don't have an appeal to the a lot of people (hence 7+ mil on at one time).

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The Mac

It wasnt valves decision, they were contractually obligated to remove it when requested by square-enix to do so.

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Cleaver

Seems to me though that it still screwed end users.

Valve, if they don't already, should have something in their agreement for publishing on Steam where if a user purchases something, it stays purchased. Square, and whoever else publishes on the platform, should have the right to pull the game from the store, but not from user libraries.

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The Mac

absolutley, but valve wastnt to blame.

im sure they probably did it unwillingly

im also sure that no publisher in their right mind would give up their right to control their product.

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Renegade Knight

No publisher in their right mind would sell you a game then take it away from you. That's fraud for most things and a pretty dang evil EULA if they did say in it. "You are renting this game. It will sunset, you won't get to enjoy it, and we are keeping your money".

Publishers have limited rights to control their product after they sell it. I buy it I own it. With this game I owned the right to play it. I owned the right to have the program on my computer. Take away everything I did buy, and my money better re-appear.

Intuit uses a sunset clause in their software. But even then you still have the software. I don't use Intuit software because of that sunset clause. It crosses the line.