Steam Machines Pictures and Specs

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Ninjawithagun

AGREED!

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azzazin5577

A lot of you guys have seriously no vision. Valve isn't trying to necessarily compete with the already established console but rather is experimenting with the prospects of being the android of consoles. Fuck having to build your own console hardware like sony and microsoft when hardware manufacturers can do a better job at it and all steam provides is the software for it. Yeah some of these machines may look underwhelming but there might a Samsung like company out there that impresses us with a good machine in the near future that any casual gamer would really like.

My only real concern is the controller because its one of those things that will either be a great device or just might be considered junk.

I also want to say that a a lot of hardware manufactures will board the ship with this because it provides a way to compete with sony and microsoft without the risk of creating software for their machine.

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Cleaver

That looks like 13 pictures of 5 Steam machines. I wouldn't exactly call that "Pictures galore."

Still, I am glad to see that so many hardware companies are on board with the idea. Hoping to see that these devices make the console crowd jump away from their sinking ships.

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jimmthang

Just to make you happy, Cleaver, I've updated the gallery to include 30 pics of a dozen Steam Machines! :P

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Obsidian

Thanks Jimmy, see if you can get the vendors to crack open some of the hardware we haven't seen yet. Like most hardware perverts we want to see the insides. Don't go to any hotel rooms without someone buying you a drink first.

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Cleaver

Well, thanks!

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Ninjawithagun

So, what you are saying is that you just made a Steaming pile of crap a larger Steaming pile of crap? :P Seriously, I like Steam for Windows, but HATE this whole marketing crap called SteamOS. It will fail miserably.

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Random

These console/PCs are not running Microsoft OS so they should be very stable.

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AFDozerman

+1

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Ninjawithagun

You are an idiot.

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devin3627

listen f***, i paid $300 for an upgrade and $300 for a videocard. $600 for the best gaming computer, why DIS a case and power supply and hard drive?!?! upgrades are good too. screw these expensive machines. we live in a economy where we dont have unlimited amounts of money. rich shit assholes.

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Ninjawithagun

Believe it or not, most PC gamers are actually NOT rich. Like you, they have to save up their money and do upgrades over long periods of time to keep their gaming hobby alive. Of all the PC gamers I know, I've only met one that was really rich and he's a very humble (albeit wealthy) doctor. He hosts LAN parties and gives out free refreshments and let's us use his gaming room in his house. He doesn't flaunt or show off anything. In fact, every single gamer (including poor me) that shows up to his LAN parties are all middle income folks (make below 100K/annually). So please, don't be so hateful and judgemental of rich people. They aren't all bad :D

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The Mac

Im pretty sure he considers everyone making over 50K rich based on what he paid for his components.

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SuperSATA

I keep on wondering the same question: who is the target audience? Console gamers don't know what Steam is, PC gamers prefer their own machines... I just don't get it.

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stradric

Maybe you don't get it because you are trying to neatly divide gamers into PC and console gamers. Really, there are just gamers. Many gamers own a gaming PC and a console. Why should they have to invest in multiple ecosystems when only one is offering backward compatibility and open innovation?

Steam has 65 million accounts. I'm sure many of those people would like to play some games on their couch but don't want Sony or Microsoft's solution. Enter the Steam Box: a pre-built gaming PC that fits in an entertainment center.

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SuperSATA

You're right. I was treating the entire console market as one homogeneous mass. I'll try to break down the console market a little bit and try to make my point again. Please pardon my extremely generalizing speech:

I think that the bulk of the console market A. Has never heard of Steam and B. Is loyal to the consoles. And those who do know what Steam is are the ones who just found out about it and ask for a new gaming PC for Christmas and are about to ditch the consoles forever. (That's what happened for me and a good deal of my friends, at least.)

There are multiple archetypes of the console gamer. This is what I think of them:

-The mainstream, average Joe console gamer- These guys are the some of the most likely candidates to have heard of Steam. They are the ones that make up a great deal of the console market. The reason they like consoles is generally because consoles are the things that commercials exist for (have you ever seen an Nvidia commercial before?) and because they are generally not technical people; they prefer plug in and play gaming (something that Linux can never dream to match unless Valve completely dumbs down the OS and makes it a sealed-shut ecosystem.) My friend is one such person. I'll talk about him.

He has been playing consoles forever and only recently found out about Steam. He bought my other friend's old PC, and even still stuck to console gaming. Now, perhaps the Steam controller would lure him better than the keyboard and mouse that he tried to use and ended up disliking, but there is no way in heck that Linux, a strange planet to him, would draw him any closer to PC gaming.

-The Swaggots- These are the guys who walk around with pants around their knees and constantly harp about the quickscopes they get in COD (a game that not to many PC gamers hold in the same reverence that console gamers do.) I shouldn't even need to explain why they won't be getting a Steam machine.

-The eleven-fourteen-year-olds- Lack of experience with technology, puberty, desire to fit in with everybody else (probably all console gamers) etc. A lot of reasons why they won't be picking up a Steam machine.

Honestly, the only class of console gamers I can actually see getting one of these things (other than the rich spoiled kids) are the ones that have wanted to get a PC for a while but haven't wanted to get their feet wet with building a PC. And see? Even they are trying to get away from the consoles. That just proves my point even better; no steadfast console gamer would want one of these.

Hopefully I'm not "trying to neatly divide gamers into PC and console gamers" anymore.

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TommM

It's obvious. The target is console users. What Steam has to offer in the way of options and library size (plus quality graphics), blows away anything the XBox and PS have to offer.

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SuperSATA

Perhaps I worded myself incorrectly. I understand who the target audience is, I'm just saying there is no way in heck the mainstream market would abandon a brand that they've known and cherished for something with a weird controller sponsored by a company they've never heard of before. And yes, I am homogenizing the entire console market.

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The Mac

Not with current APIs however.

Same hardware as consoles, with 50% of the graphics.

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Ninjawithagun

Agreed! Without DirectX, PhysX, hardware tessellation, and advanced anti-aliasing coding (MSAA, FSAA, CSAA, CFAA, etc), the Linux version of Steam just can't compete when it comes to how the game should look graphically.

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TommM

Same hardware as consoles? Guess you haven't been paying attention. One of the big selling points of the Steam unit is customization and upgrade ability:

http://www.maximumpc.com/valve_unveils_first_generation_steam_machines_ces_2014

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The Mac

perhaps you have not. the $500 machines are comperable hardware to consoles. The manufacters have explicitly said this.

However, due to OS API abstraction overhead of windows/osx/linux, they will NEVER come close consoles in terms of raw graphics power. Which is one of the points of consoles to begin with: Close to the metal programming.

So again, same hardware 50% of the graphics.

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tetris42

Well for the AMD side, isn't that the whole point of Mantle? Also developers aren't going to be having super-efficient programming on the new consoles right away anyway. By the time they do, PC hardware may be at the point to simply out muscle the extra efficiency at an affordable price.

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The Mac

Don't get me wrong, im all for diversity.

But at the current state of OS development it just doesn't make fiscal sense.

Mantle may change things, we shall see.

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maleficarus™

Looks great!