Start Menu to Make a Glorious Return in Upcoming Windows "Threshold" Update

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CyberCam

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Well said!

I always like your posts, they are filled with common sense.

Cheers!

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Random

If you think it's so cut and dry and it works for you then HOORAY FOR YOU!!! But not everyone feels the same way you do about Windows 8. Maybe instead of logging in after a year to give this douchey rant you should instead take a deep breath and go eat some fruit or something.

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davelray

Unlike the hundreds of douchey rants the Windows H8te team has been dishing out article after article, Random?

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gforaker

Try the upgrade to 8.1. It is much better with a quick icon to Desktop and below the Metro screen a quick page with all of the programs listed, almost like the Start menu. Still different from Win 7, but almost as quick and useful.

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legionera

The world of start ribbon and desktop shortcuts has collapsed! Welcome old useless Start Menu providing the same old useless experience... I just woke up in the idiotic dimension. Why is M$ listening to Apple users' complains? They will not switch to Windows anyways...

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Engelsstaub

You type right out of your ass so much it hurts my eyes before I can even scroll past it. Most of the people who regularly comment here and dislike your beloved OS are fellow Windows users. Almost nobody here is an Apple user.

I, however, use a Mac most of the time and have no problem with Windows 8 and the fact that they ditched the start menu. I like almost everything about Windows 8. You only see things as Big Corporation vs. Big Corporation where you belong to one of the teams like they hired you for their cheerleading squad.

If you need a TL;DR-version in very simple English: *Apple users are not causing the backlash against Windows 8.*

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maxeeemum

Good one Engelsstaub! Gotta agree! He makes sense occasionally but most posts are in the twilight zone. That's as nice as I can say it. Originally I thought he was a M$ employee! But I suspect it's something else!!!

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legionera

@maxeeemum

You are bacK! I am happy to see that you finally found network drivers for your linux distro. It took you quite a while to figure it out.

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maxeeemum

??? HI HO!!!

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legionera

You sure?

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Eoraptor

Yes... because I want my phone, my gaming platform, and my pc to all do the exact same thing, the same as I want my subcompact and my pickup truck and my motorcycle to have all the same features and functions.

apparently the idiots in redmond are STILL missing the issue that people want the start menu for their PCs, want games on their gaming machines, and apparently really don't want it on their phones at all given how even the best camera on the market still can't move windows phone.

but why should they listen? they still think it's 1999 and they rule the electronic universe.

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Carlidan

Isn't the point you want all your systems to be unified? I would you think you want your life to easier not harder when doing task in multiple platforms. I guess not for you.

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Bahumbug

The menu is useless. Why do slow people drag down progression of ui and features?

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Paper Jam

2015? Won't it be time for Windows 9 by then?

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rsaotome

...and Windows Aero???

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Ghost XFX

Makes you wonder if it will be an option, doesn't it?

For now, it seems they just wanted to get the word out that the Start menu is coming back.

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davelray

Why would you want that resource hog (Aero) back? That's the first thing I disable anytime I do a clean install of Windows 7 on something. Granted in Win 7 SP1 it's much less of a resource hog than when it originally released with Vista, but it still eats up unnecessary resources. I remember when it first released in the Vista beta. We had to disable it just to keep the OS from crashing. Everyone hated it then. But now everyone seems to want it back.

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Granite

I liked Aero and with my Core i7-3930k, 16GB ram and dual 680's the hit on resources wasn't a big deal.

Having said that, I don't miss Aero with Win8. It's just eye-candy, after all.

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Random

It's too bad Microsoft waited this long to listen to its users. People shouldn't have to download some third party tool to get the desktop to function the way they want it. MS made a big mistake by removing user choice from the equation with Windows 8.

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big_montana

It seems like I am the only one who did not miss the start menu. I did not use it with Windows 7, so it was not big deal it was removed from Windows 8. People just cannot handle change when it comes to Windows, yet they have no problem with their iPad not having a start menu.

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bbq4tw

You're not the only one. Never understood the fascination with the start menu. I personally never "surfed" the start menu looking for interesting items.

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opticallog

I didn't use the start menu to browse for programs or settings either. If you used it as a search tool however(press the Windows key, begin typing, etc.), the functionality was significantly degraded. Windows 8 search isn't intelligent enough to display a "setting" or "file" when I search for something that Windows 8 doesn't classify as an "app." I have not yet used Windows 8.1 however, because I'm not reformatting my corporate laptop just to test their changes to search, which Start8 already resolved for me.

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legionera

I am on your bandwagon.

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pastorbob

So what? I never missed it anyway.

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Nixon

I've grown rather used to Windows 8.1 as is.

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Jaeger_CDN

Well it gives Valve a couple more years to spit polish SteamOS to something gamers and average users will want.

If Valve is really serious about making their own OS they'll want more than just gamers to use it since it'll only take a short stroll over to Steam to bring average home users into the fold.

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CyberCam

SteamOS is just a gaming platform, just like Playstation's OS, WiiU's OS and of course Xbox's OS. It's being created and tailored for gaming & media consumption. As far as we've been told.

Strangely enough I remember a while back reading an article on Valve wanting branch out and sell apps on Steam. Oh well, who knows, stranger things have happened.

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Jaeger_CDN

But if Valve keeps the OS open like it says it will, it won't take much for people who use it for gaming to bring it up to speed for day to day use (browsing, emailing, office work, etc).

Google chrome/android have the ability to do office work but lack the serious historical game power that Microsoft holds with their OS. If Valve does it right and does a decent job with merging that with their game library then there should be a decent shift from Microsoft. Not saying a total migration from Windows to SteamOS but enough that will give M$ something to think about since their master plan of pushing people to Win8 has been underwhelming in its execution.

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PCLinuxguy

The issue here, I find, is that will it be like XBMCbuntu where you can log out and log in to a desktop of some sort (Lubuntu powers XBMCbuntu) or will it be more like Open Elec where it's an "appliance" OS (like what's on consoles now) that is just what you get without a desktop to run other things and need to SSH into it for such purposes? That is what I am most anxious to find out from Valve.

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CyberCam

Good point about it being an open platform, afterall it will be a stripped down *buntu OS taliored to gaming. All one has to do is add a few respositories and you have a full fledge desktop OS.

One other thing, SteamOS is being developed for the livingroom, not so much for the desktop, my xubuntu desktop OS (with Steam installed) is a better choice for that!

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txfeinbergs

A short stroll over? Good luck with that. Without Windows Office applications, it will never grab ahold, just like Linux is still a niche product.

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CyberCam

Just to let you know, I have corporate customers using Microsoft Office 2007 to 2010 on Debian & Ubuntu, so it can be done. Also, there is an MS Office clone called Kingsoft Office, that looks, works and feels identical to Microsoft's Office suite, and it has no format issues with MS's proprietary formats like other office suites.

That Linux niche is getting larger and larger everyday! And so is Apple's MacOSX, more and more companies are using it too! I can bet, that MS are looking over their shoulders more often, these days.

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Neufeldt2002

Linux may not be strong on the desktop, but it is far from a niche product everywhere else.

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PCLinuxguy

Agreed. The desktop market is the niche, as the bigger money comes from those other sectors, especially servers.

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praetor_alpha

Hey Start Menu, welcome back! It's like you never left!

(continues using Windows 7)

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Rift2

Yeah Microsoft pissed off the Entire internet even if they didn't use even use Windows 8 =)

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Browncow8

So much conceding by Microsoft this year. Xbox One DRM and game sharing and now this.

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praetor_alpha

At least they've started listening to their customers.

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macmooda

About time they started. This you will do it this way or not do it all attitude is really not the best approach in my personal opinion.

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PCLinuxguy

To be fair though it -is- their company. They have the right to dictate how their products will look and function. And unlike Open Source programs, the community of users ultimately have zero say in what happens to it. Granted voting with their wallet holds sway, but that's all the end users have and it's not always the "silver bullet" of fixing problems.

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macmooda

You are right. It is their company and ultimately their choice. But truly when it comes to a business that is not a nonprofit, You really do have to please your customers. It may not be the best way of fixing problems. But if most of your user base is saying what is this, I don't want to use this. Then you should make changes to suit the majority of users. But you are right though.

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germanogre

Always worked for my stepfather.

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Vano

2015 you say?

Can't decide if I should say "Thank you" or "Fuck you", Microsoft. The letter feels right though.

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ZenLord422

Must Remove Classic Shell.