Sound Decision: Logitech Rolls Out a Space Saving Multimedia Speaker System

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bjoswald

Figures! I just bought the Z506 set a month ago.

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Hey.That_Dude

Desktops still come with 7.1 audio pre-outs, and yet I still don't see anyone making any 7.1 computer speaker set ups.

Back to on topic:
These will sound like they cost $30. I guarantee it.

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JosephColt

It would be pointless for gamers, and a niche market.

* A surround sound speaker system has to be setup properly or it will sound awful, and not provide proper surround. You cannot just place them here and there expecting it to blow you away.

* Gamers tend to use headphones for competitive gaming if they want surround sound.

* If you want 7.1 you can just set one up yourself with the parts bought individually, or just buy a 7.1 home speaker system. Why would you even buy audio products from a gaming or computer company when they are guaranteed to be inferior.

* We have these 7.1 outs because they can be added for almost nothing.

* Most gamers tend to know jack about audio which is why companies make so much money on gaming headsets.

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Hey.That_Dude

1) Proper set up is very simple. Include poles for surround positioning, especially with how little these surround speakers weigh.

2) Headphones are nice but most are very much NOT 7.1 headsets with only a few headsets that have real (not Dolby tricks that sound flatter than paper that I write on) 7.1 or even 5.1

3) I am working on setting up my own. Down to building my own speakers (I'm an EE, it's a thing).

4) Gamers know a lot more about it when you put the two next to each other. I've shown so many friends how their "Gamer L33T G3AR" is a POS with shiny packaging.

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JosephColt

1. If you are an audiophile, everything from your walls to furniture affect the room. You literally cannot just throw a bunch of small speakers into a large room and expect it to work well. Everything about the room needs to be precise and planned.

2. Virtual surround on headphones is better than those headphones with tons of small speakers.

3. Yep, it's not like speakers are a complex thing.

4. Yep, show gamers real headphones then they learn, but most don't know how they are being fooled by marketing.

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LatiosXT

Eh, virtual surround sound never really works for me. It just makes it sound like everything has more reverb. Proper tracking is the only way to get anything close to surround sound out of headphones.

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JosephColt

I've personally had my hands on with several types of these gaming headphones to test the "true" surround sound, but they sound like garbage. Audiophile headphones without any form of virtualalization works better, and sound better, for me. Those gaming headsets are just so low quality, and packing all those speakers into a headset like that...meh.

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JosephColt

*Double Posted*

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Hey.That_Dude

"1. If you are an audiophile, everything from your walls to furniture affect the room. You literally cannot just throw a bunch of small speakers into a large room and expect it to work well. Everything about the room needs to be precise and planned."

You are assuming that the speakers aren't too directional and less than 3 feet away... but that's exactly what you should do with 5W-10W computer speakers, as most of those are 5W@1m-10W@1m. There may be a little aiming involved and a small amount of staging but these set ups aren't complicated IF YOU INCLUDE FREE STANDING MOUNTS (which I mentioned in the first post). Here is an example of over the top ones for your home theater... these are far more than I would expect for comp speakers at an equally ridiculous price.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=144243&gclid=CIfutLaQ9r4CFcpj7AodRgwAYQ&Q=&is=REG&A=details

"3. Yep, it's not like speakers are a complex thing."
Go down to the Q level, come back when you get that down.

My captcha for this post is: jK33B

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JosephColt

Yeah, if it's just some small computer speakers I wouldn't worry to much, but still may not function properly if not setup correct in a room. If you're doing a real home theater setup with good speakers then you have to do it the right way. I have mine wall mounted with the speaker wires running through the walls to the equipment. I have acoustic treatment materials such as sound absorbing materials in the HTPC room for example too.

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Hey.That_Dude

Yeah but if you look at the amount of power going into those speakers and did the equations that treat your speakers as point sources, then you'd likely find that the speaker on your left is hitting the right wall with something close to 5-10 watt of power. Which is more than enough to cause unwanted reflections (It's as powerful as these computer speakers). Even maxing out 5W computer speakers in my room would mean that the sound is hitting the wall behind me at around 1 watt (the asymptotically smallest value) and that wall is 3 meters away.

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LatiosXT

This is what upsets me. Logitech is giving this the Z designation, which is supposed to be reserved for their top-end speakers.

But yeah... 7W RMS total system is probably going to sound slightly better than your laptop.

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Evan Evans

It is represented as the satellites being wireless. Are they? Logitech's site doesn't say.

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LatiosXT

Chances are they're not. It's just presented this way for cleaner marketing materials.