Sony Will Get to Inspect PS3 Hacker's Data

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Nicci85

With the account hack and their Netowrk down, SOE is getting a black eye and there not helping with this ridiculous attack on a kid. Its a Corporation against 1 man who wanted to do what he wanted with HIS purchase. I say we all burn PS3s to show our support

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r00t3r

I hope he has a very elegant trojan that gathers lots and lots of corporate data before it calls home...

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damicatz

The DMCA in unconstitutional and the court and government that ordered this search are both illegitimate.

The US government has become nothing more than the bastard child of various greedy corporations. It no longer represents the will of the American people nor the values of America or our founding fathers.

Sadly, refusing to coorporate with an illegal order from an illegitimate court will result in them sending government thugs to use violence against him to get their desires. The needs of the corporations outweight the needs or rights of the people.

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nforce

I wonder if he encrypted his Hard Drive, if so all sony would get is NOTHING. I hope he did cause that would be awesome.

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IronMask

Personally, from being part of the hacking team for Wii Homebrew... I understand and respect others opinions on piracy acts... (Although I am a pirate/hacker myself!)  What do they think they will be able to prove by going through Geohot's stuff?  I mean seriously, it's a little late to see what the man has been up to... They expecting to find the truth about what?!  How vulnerable and weak their security is?? If a person buys an automobile and adds customized seats, paint, nitrous, etc. to their hotrod Ford, Chevy, or whoever doesn't demand a judge give them permission to pop the hood on it... If I were Sony, I would be offering the man a job for consultation on how to prevent it from happening again... Personally, I know some of others involved in this fiasco and they are quite resourceful when it comes to hacking consoles...(I'm not mentioning names!)  But, the fact is... it's ok to modify some other product... and people actually profit from after-market products for their cars, homes, etc.  These guys aren't doing anything different than that... they just chose to customize what they love as well as the next consumer enthusiasts... Sony, should have seen this coming... as well as Microsoft and Nintendo... Most of the coders I know use their own code for running their apps and it is open source for anyone to examine before installing... This has nothing to do with my opinions on piracy it is my opinion that after you buy something you should be able to do what they hell you want with it... What's the difference in buying another remote for your TV that does more than the one Sony you originally for the TV which won't control your set top boxes, etc?! I know I am opening up a can of worms but someone has to stick up for us hackers... that's what we love to do.  It's going to happen, again when another console is released... so hey SONY! GET THE HELL OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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I-8-NY

WOW you are part of the wii homebrew.  I just installed a week ago and i like it.  I think it is great that people can write their own programs to run on the wii. (or anything else that is hacked)  People should have the option to run homebrew games from the begining.  Once some one has figured away to run their own software or homebrew and share it with the web, always some hackers will use it to pirate games.  I don't like pirating but as long as homebrew needs a hack to run so will pirated games be used.

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Ghok

I don't know how something like this could even happen. Why do we have laws that could allow this?

I think this is the first step in a big crackdown on "cybercrime". The people have had a little too much freedom for too long.

Too bad.

For the record, I think thatSony has every right to do whatever they can to stop people hacking their machines, but they certainly shouldn't have to right to stop someone from tinkering with it. If they think a hacked machine is a big risk for game hacks or something then they could ban it from the online network. I think that would be stupid, but within their rights.

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Hydian

If it mattered at all beyond principle, it should be inspected by a 3rd party to prevent tampering.  This sort of seizure is unprecidented in a civil case from what I understand.  Not that it is likely to matter.  The guy has indicated in the past that he encrypts his drives.  If true, Sony wont get anything from them.  Of course, that isn't really the point here anyway.  The point is to take his toys away.

 

As far as those who are supporting Sony in this...creating a tool that can be misused should not be a crime.  If it was, there would be a long list of people to throw in jail (car manufacturers, baseball bat manufacturers, lumber yards...the list is pretty much unlimited.)  I mean, it isn't as if this guy secretly installed a rootkit on thousands of unsuspecting users' machines or something...you know, an actual crime...he simply released the keys that allow people to run homebrews or use their PS3 as a computer (which it was advertised as being able to do when a lot of people purchased them.)  If someone takes that information and uses it to pirate games, then *they* have commited a crime, not him.

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Cocy

 sdfs

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f104chrome

The key here "With that key, any software can be signed as legit, including pirated games" seems like a no brainer, publishing/posting how to rip a company off doesn't sound to smart. Everyone always says the "consols" are sold as a loss leader and the money is made off the games, if ppl don't have to pay for game to play because someone comes up with a hack to play pirated games instead then they should be in this guys mess. He's no more than a enabler to thiefs.

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Mighty BOB!

This is such BS.  If it has to happen, it should be a third party that does it, like you know, law enforcement..  Letting Sony do it themselves is just plain wrong.

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jonnyohio

I was thinkin of getting a ps3 until I saw all this...reminded me of when they killed homebrew on the portable....woudnt want to accidentally break corporate laws while leasing one of their overpriced game consoles and end up going bankrupt because the judge is a corporate whore.

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jonnyohio

I was thinkin of getting a ps3 until I saw all this...reminded me of when they killed homebrew on the portable....woudnt want to accidentally break corporate laws while leasing one of their overpriced game consoles and end up going bankrupt because the judge is a corporate whore.

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Scatter

double post

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Scatter

I don't think that there would be much of a risk of accidently hacking the PS3 while playing games on it. 

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r6srider

Sony, what a bunch of money grubbing a-holes, great so because some guy fiddled around with his system sony is going to come down on him like a freaking hammer? They should give the guy a medal and hire him if he's that good at computer programming. And what do they expect to get out of it, it's not like the guy is bill gates and is loaded, all they will do is ruin one persons life. Thanks sony, add one more person to welfare just to make a point, your just as bad as the music industry. Guess people will just switch to xbox because of your greed.  Besides, even if someone wanted to jailbreak your system, they still have to buy the console first, so your still getting paid.  Hackers hack, get over it, other companies plan on it, stop acting like a diva sony.

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Scatter

Its not because the guy just fiddled around with his PS3, its because he couldn't keep it to himself.  Do anything you want with your stuff at your own risk.  As long as nobody knows about it then you're fine.  Why in the world would you post it on the Internet though is beyond me. 

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Michael Sorrentino

Here's hoping Sony wins, hacks like this make game developers disappear which in turn means no games which is bad!

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Vegan

Hacking a game console doesn't make developers disappear, pirating games does.

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Scatter

Hacking game consoles will generally lead to an ability to pirate games. 

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Gaahl

Can't wait til crackin' open a McDouble to see whats inside or to add mayo to it can be considered some flippant legal violation.

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don2041

How many shares of sony stock does the judge own ?

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COMMANDER_COOK

I don't think that is a violation of the DMCA. Remember that it was amended to allow hacking devices like the iPhone? I think this falls into the exception.

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ddimick

The Library of Congress DMCA jailbreaking exception applies only to "wireless telephone handsets".

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COMMANDER_COOK

The only difference between the PS3 and a smartphone is the fact that it is not portable, has more processing power, and does not make calls.

So, according to the DMCA, if the PS3 could make calls wirelessly, then hacking it would be legal.

Yes, I realize what the DMCA says, but is there really a significant difference?

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Mighty BOB!

To a lawyer, yeah it's a HUGE difference.  Their job is to find these small differences and exploit them for all they're worth.

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Danthrax66

WHAT THE FUCK? America is ruled by corporations this is fucking bullshit, and it's not even a U.S. company they are from Japan FUCKING SELL OUT GOVERNMENT!

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Vegan

I'm pretty sure that the "A" in SCEA stands for America, Dantrax.

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Danthrax66

Sony is a Japanese company they can have an AMerican branch but they are still primarily in Japan.

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ddimick

This particular sellout happened in 1998.

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Techie714

I agree this is REALLY bad news all the way around.  He should NOT have to give up his computer to forensic examination.