Sony and Panasonic Working Together to Improve Optical Disc Capacity to at Least 300GB

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serihimosuna03

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Rypht

Back around 2000, a company called Constellation 3D had developed a Fluorescent Multilayer Disc (FMD), the same size as cd/dvd discs, the prototype had 50GB of storage space with an estimated capacity of 1TB. The brains at sony/panasonic should hunt down that research and bring it to mainstream.

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PCWolf

Why 300GB These Disks are a Bad Idea.

When Sony was working on Blu-Ray, it was discovered that the disks were extremely sensitive to scratches, & they had planned to put them in Caddies. But that plan was scrapped when they came up with a Scratch resistant coating. This is not 100% effective, And even a tiny scratch can make your movies unplayable. Now, Imagine if your Blu-Ray Data Disk got a tiny scratch? Your Data could be lost due to the disk becoming unreadable. For Long Term Safe Storage, you would need a disk that had the following Features:

1: Protective Caddy to protect the Disk from Dirty Fingers or Drops.
2: Scratch Resistant coating to keep disk from becoming easily damaged.
3: M-Disc type Burn Material that does not rely on Chemicals or Dyes that degrade over time.
4: Invent some serious error correcting disk read mechanism that could read past the scratches.

While no single method is truly 100%, I feel more safer storing sensitive data on a Hard Drive more than on Blu-Ray Optical Media.

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Nimrod

You fools do realize this is mostly for 4k(hate that fake marketing term) movies and such dont you? Why hate on it? If netflix had hardly stream good content now there is no way in hell your every going to get decent 4k video streamed to do. The file size of video is outpacing the price of bandwith. You will need these.

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d3v

300GB by 2015 is not good enough. By next year we'll have flash drives that do more than 300GB and they'll be faster than any optical drive.

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vrmlbasic

I take it that this new "blu-ray" disc tech will not work with all the preexisting blu-ray tech?

One of the reasons I threw Netflix under the bus was because they would only stream me low-detail (dark scenes might as well have been just a black screen), low-resolution video and tried to spin their failing as being my fault as I didn't have an "openconnect ISP", which would save Netflix money.

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Xenux

Dude check out this ars technica article. It's a bit lengthy but it explains alot in terms of why streaming sucks. arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/why-youtube-buffers-the-secret-deals-that-make-and-break-online-video/

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vrmlbasic

I hadn't seen that before. Haven't been to Ars since they changed their site layout; I dislike the "new" layout immensely.

That Netflix tried to put the blame on me, tried to get me to switch my ISP to "send a message" and create a "grassroots" effort to get us netflix subscribers to solve their problems is unforgivable. They're a massive corporation with influence and money so they shouldn't try and guilt us into doing their work for them. Pathetic.

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praetor_alpha

Cue all the Sony haters saying that this will fail like all of Sony's other formats.

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dgrmouse

Although I'd love to have a good high-capacity optical disc setup, this is doomed to fail if Sony is stupid enough to price the media higher than hard discs. That's not hate, that's basic economic truth.

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praetor_alpha

That's a real reason, not "just 'cuz" like all the BluRay vs HDDVD arguments were.

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Cube

Also when 4k video options come up. It is going to be faster and better just to use a DISC for very high quality video with very little compression. if they up those disc to 300gb it will be the movie storage option for people that care what the picture and sound look like.

the internet in most parts of the world can't pipe good video or sound at high bitrates.

same for games when they get very large it will be faster just to go get one of these 300gb or 100 or 25gb 50gb bluerays at the store.

Music also sounds pretty bad off the internet that is why I still get cds Mp3s and those other formats sound like crap.

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GTFHercules

Only until Google Fibre is for everyone in the nation ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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limitbreaker

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) one day

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basketcase87

Not to mention you get to deal with this crap with netflix:
http://whatnetflixdoes.tumblr.com/

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Cube

Ya netflix is horrible I did the free trial and compared it to a disc movie I owned it was not in the correct format the sound sucked compared to the DTS or DTS master audio track and the video codec sucked.

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limitbreaker

People often look at the continued usage of disk to be backwards but they couldn't be more wrong, allowing everything to be streamed on the internet means that you'll settle for high lossy compression sound and video. I have yet to even see a steaming service that will provide non HD dts, let alone dts-HDma... they're almost exclusively using low britate ac3. I'll stick with my physical disk thank you.

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Cube

I dont think disc will ever really die as a cheep long term archive data storage. with high capacity.

I use them all the time for that and I still rather go get bluray disc than watch crap video on netflix with bad audio.