Small PC Computing

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bkoch1

Forget Iris, I want to see something with a good mobile nVidia or AMD chip in it. All of the ultra sff PCs and Mac Minis have dumped the higher end graphics chips. Drop one of those in, and you'll probably see a jump in sales for those that want to connect one to the living room TV. I know I would like to throw a mini box like a Brix in my HT setup for playing some newer fps games on my 60" 240Hz LED TV if it had a better GPU...

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NavarWynn

To me, the advantage of this format is the flexibility of the setup. Some standardization (such as mounting locations) might be nice, but I can build an enclosure (including appropriate (perhaps even passive) cooling for lower power CPUs) for any of these in the garage, and with the included connectivity, they can be easily built into things like cars, & boats, to solve mission critical needs. The most obvious thing to me is in police cars (who all have a laptop on a frame taking up the front passenger seat now) Or.... strap one to the back of a decent monitor, and you've got a capable (upgradeable) AIO.

That said, MPC must have a sticky V button... lately we've seen a lot of ctrl-V errors

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dedgar

Small PC Computing.
I was expecting the Raspberry Pi, the Hummingboard and something about the Arduino boards to be included.
You guys forget about them? Or aren't they Intel enough?
Then there's the Intel D34010WYB board that has socket type AM3/AM2+/AM2. But it wasn't already assembled. You would have to do that.
So the title should've been Small Intel Preassembled PC Computing.

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The Mac

That would be out of the scope of this magazine.

They are not PCs, they are development boards.

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dedgar

None-the-less, they are still PC's. They are still compact.
So go ahead and count them out. What about the Intel board that has the AMD socket?
Then the title should once again be changed to:
Only Preassembled Intel CPU Based CFF Computing

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The Mac

a PC is a fully functioning system capable of running a full retail copy windows and any windows programs.

What you are pointing out maybe computers, or microcomputers, but they are in no way "Small PCs" which this article is examining.

Just as a smartphone or a tablet isnt a PC

And a motherboard isnt a PC, its a componant. Its not a PC until you make it one.

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dedgar

So a PC is "a PC is a fully functioning system capable of running a full retail copy windows and any windows programs."
Well then, the NUC doesn't qualify the same as the other don't qualify.
Go to webpage for the NUC and you will see that it comes as a KIT. So it has some assembly of some sort.
Go ahead and take a look for yourself. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-d54250wyk.html

The word KIT is right there in plain site.
Intel NUC is a kit. Some assembly required.
Intel board with the AMD socket. Some assembly required.
Raspberry Pi. Some assembly required.
The Hummingboard. Some assembly required.
So tell me again how the others don't make the grade but the NUC does.

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The Mac

so?

a rasperry PI cannot run windows

a NUC can after assembly.

The fact that its a kit is irelvent.

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dedgar

In the article the necessity to run Windows was not a prerequisite. So the Pi can stay on my list.

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The Mac

and it stays off mine.

it is in no way shape or form a PC.

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dedgar

Just as an OBTW, the Pi can run Windows. Look it up on Youtube.com

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The Mac

So i really have to specify natively?

really?

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MrHasselblad

Incorrect Mac,

From 1962, until Windows came on the scene, there were plenty of PC's that never ran anything Windows. There are also a fair share of present day PC's which are available through retail or ordering that are still PC's, even without anything Windows on them

Also if an Apple/Mac product is made to dual boot (or rewriteen to operate single boot to Windows, does that automatically turn it into a PC?

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The Mac

CAPABLE of running windows (or DOS, or CPM, or OS2 for legacy stuff)

A mac is a PC because it is CAPABLE of running windows.

A smartphone is not.

Windows is the currently accepted OS around the world. If it cannot run it, its not a PC.

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LatiosXT

If you want to be that pedantic... PC in computer usage refers to the IBM 5150. Everything that was based off of that is an IBM PC compatible computer, not a PC.

Except modern PCs aren't even IBM PC compatible anymore (emulators don't count. If they do, smartphones are by definition PC-compatible because they have a port of DOSBox available). So they're not PCs or PC-compatible by this definition.

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burntham77

I had a NUC hooked up to a 1440p monitor for a few months. I used it as a general workstation, and it did anything I needed, which included using Adobe software (Premier, Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator) and audio editing software (Sound Forge, Audacity). I was impressed with the power inside that little thing.

However, the fan on my model was kind of loud. I also realized that for my use I was better off using an all-in-one PC, so I replaced it with a Lenovo AIO. The new PC had better specs, it took up less space on my desk, and it ended up costing the same as my monitor/NUC combo.

I could see myself going back to a NUC if I ever move up to a 4K display, but given the choice I would rather stick with AIO PC than a mini PC and a separate monitor.

I still have another tiny PC (an AMD-based Zotac unit) under my TV that takes up minimal space and functions very well as an HTPC. The fan on that can get a little loud at times but it's not noticeable when something is playing on the TV.

I love these new small PCs. There is little need to build a PC for just workstation duties anymore. NUCs are cheap, they require minimal hassle to setup, and they fit nearly anywhere. I'm all in.

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AFDozerman

We're in a transitional age, no doubt. It seems like the new desktops are laptops around here, and the formfactor is shifting to accommodate. With things like the new Mac Pro and NUCs, it looks like the old boxes are going away, and that isn't a good thing.

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LatiosXT

Because few people need a hulking tower with 7+1 expansion slots. In the past four builds, I've used expansion slots for two things: video cards and sound cards. And I'm already dropping the "need" for sound cards because on-board audio has finally gotten to really high quality levels.

To that end my current build is a Mini-ITX one, and I haven't looked back.

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Mediziner

Yes, the Realtek alc 1150 is very beast. Much better than even the Asus Essence STX II.
Onboard audio is passable, especially if you're using a super-premium $400 mobo, but normally not at the point of a decent dedicated soundcard.

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LatiosXT

The Intel NUCs both say they're using the 1.3GHz Core i5-4250U. D:

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nubleet

Paragraphs 3 and 4 are duplicate, unless I'm seeing double. May need to get my eyes checked anyway.

Edit: On page 2 of this article. Didn't realize the comments spanned all pages.