Samsung May Opt to Block Third Party Accessories on Galaxy Devices

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QUINTIX256

Repeat after me:
it's not a phone, it is a full fledged computer that happens to fit in your pocket

it was a mistake, IMHO, for Microsoft to drop the PocketPC brand
they could have led the charge against "devicification" of dumbed-down "smart" platforms from desperate Television gimmicks to locked down portable devices using a figleaf of an open platform.

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ram1220

I have never bought a Samsung phone and this move by Samsung has just assured that I never will. I just bought an HTC One and I am extremely happy with it. Samsung you do have competition out there.

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HeroOfCanton

I could see if they want to deny warranty support if you fry your phone with a cheap knockoff battery (the chip could function like the water damage detector), but turning off features is just garbage.

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Zanshi

For the record, Apple doesn't discourage third party add-ons, but the third parties need to have to pay Apple for the tech to make their add-ons compatible. The companies who counterfeit cause a problem because they copy the tech, and since they don't have the exact specifications (they would if they had paid Apple to obtain them), the end results can be catastrophic and/or deadly.

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Asterixx

Amen, brother... I had an iPhone 4S stop working on me recently - it just went dead and would do nothing. I bought the extended warranty with the phone, so I took it to Future Shop for a new one. The guy tried to revive it, then opened it up and found the battery had swollen to the point of nearly exploding, and the phone smelled all burned inside. They gave me a new phone for free but the tech said it was probably from using a knockoff charger. It was more likely from using the knockoff adapter I used to connect it to my car, since I only use the Apple-supplied wall wart and USB cable at home. I tossed that shit and now just connect with Bluetooth, but it did drive home the point that knockoff stuff can be dangerous. Had it caught fire it could have burned the car. Had it caught fire in my pocket it could have burned me...

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MaximumMike

That's some very faulty reasoning based on some bad assumptions. You "assume" your battery malfunctioned because of your adapter, but you have no way of knowing for sure. But here are a couple of facts we do know with 100% certainty. Batteries have a 100% failure rate. That's right, 100%. Every single battery in existence WILL fail. Every one. It doesn't matter what cable/adapter/charger you use. Your battery is guaranteed to fail. Here's the next fact we can be certain of. Battery swelling like you are referring to happens even with the use of authentic accessories. So, while you may feel better about your new "authentic" Apple accessories, you can never know for sure if you have another battery waiting to explode in your pocket. But I, on the other hand can remove the cover of my phone and examine my battery every day. And I don't have to wait for battery acid to start bleeding out of my phone before I can do something about it. I can replace my battery any time I feel like it.

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Renegade Knight

The tech to make add ons compatible is merely how to do a handshake with the add on control chip.

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DJ_Smoke

I'm calling BS on this story, I'll believe it when I see it.

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jgottberg

I know some people think it's a dick move by Samsung to hamstring you into buying their accessories but there is a positive. A few months ago, someone was about lit on fire for using a counterfeit iPhone charger (they didn't know it was counterfeit) that was very poorly constructed. If this technology would have been in place, it might have mitigated that whole scenario.

Just another angle.

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compro01

Nope. Apple's authentication nonsense wouldn't even look at the charger. It only cares about the cable.

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Renegade Knight

Not at all. The connection that Apple licenses out is different than the cheap construction that caused the fire.

Paying extra for a product because they had to pay extra to officially connect doesn't mean you are getting a quality product.

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Hey.That_Dude

Authentication, sure. Tyrannical shut down, no. See we wouldn't need authentication if everyone could verify it for themselves, so I'm gonna call BS and say that this is just a crap move (On both Apple and Samsung's part) if it ends up being true.

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jgottberg

Well, I think that's what I was getting at. If Samsung uses the technology to verify "Samsung Certified" accessories (their own+3rd party), it might prevent unintended circumstances.

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Cy-Kill

It's bad enough the hardware region locking, and now this, time to go with another company, the S4 is my last Samsung phone!

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Alpha-Zulu

If they do this, they're taking one step closer to being like Apple.
"Well it's our hardware/software and we want you to use it as we see fit"

And what a load of crap if they use the battery exploding as an excuse.

Time to switch to another manufacturer, Motorola, HTC, etc.

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PCLinuxguy

LG is starting to look good as far as smartphones go. The Optimus G2 is rather neat.
HTC isn't too bad,They feel rather nice in the hand for use, and Sense isn't as bad as it used to be.
Motorolas are pretty nice, but I prefer GSM handsets so that I am not locked down to a specific carrier like Verizon.

Personally I'm looking forward to the upcoming Google Nexus 5 (LG Optimus G2). The Google Nexus 4 (LG Optimus G) was pretty nice as well.

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Trooper_One

Over the years, I notice a lot of my Samsung devices just stopped working or isn't working properly. From printers (who's cartridges are chipped - so genuine Samsung replacements only), to my old Yepp (after a few updates, it bricked), to my 51" Plasma (capacitors problem; HDMI2 not handshaking properly with non-samsung devices).

I was going to get the Note 3, then I said to myself it was a Samsung product so I said no.

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limitbreaker

I've had similar experiences

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Eoraptor

So... apparently they are forgetting just WHY android phones use a nice standardized USB micro-B connector; to ensure that you can use any damned thing you want to with your phone, instead of being locked in to Apple's proprietary 30 and 19 pin connectors. What next, switching to only using exFAT formatted SD cards in MKV format to ensure you can't load your own music and software and have to buy it from korea?

and batteries exploding? considering most smart phones and tablets now use soldered-in batteries and are in no way user servicable, is that really a problem?

listen to the crowd, Samsung, this is a shit move and you need to step back from it.

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compro01

"apparently they are forgetting just WHY android phones use a nice standardized USB micro-B connector"

They remember exactly why. Because the European Counsel told them to (Whilst observing what a nice market share they had and how unfortunate it would be is anything happened to it) and now they're unhappy because they can't use their proprietary crap connectors anymore and are looking for loopholes in the EC's order so they can sew up their accessories market.

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MaximumMike

Though I agree with what you're saying, Samsung makes the batteries accessible on all their devices that I know of. So, while valid in its application to the industry as a whole, that comment doesn't apply to Samsung in particular and has nothing to do with what Samsung is doing with their own devices. Furthermore, batteries can explode whether or not they are accessible to the customer. That being said, I still agree with the gist of what you're saying.

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Keith E. Whisman

Guys, Apple hasn't actually done anything like this, I have a bunch of third party accessories for my iDevices. Samsung is actually making a chip that won't let you use thirdly party accessories. On Apple devices you get a message telling you that it may not work but everything still works, just to stop piracy and fraud. Too much fake Apple stuff on the market, they are just warning you, they don't actually block you from using anything. Samsung is not allowed in my household, they have a history of unethical business practices and have been fined by every country under the sun. They have been caught using misleading advertising about their own products, making fake negative reviews of their competitors products and worse of all, benchmark cheating. I can't trust them, I'll stick with Apple as a recent convert.

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Renegade Knight

I've had to many things not work with Apple to think they turn off the chip that enforces their connection standards.

I've also had too much trouble with Apple products falling far short of "Just working".

I've had good luck with Samsung but find them expensive so they aren't always first on the list.

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limitbreaker

I'm sort of with you, and I agree about Samsung. But going with Apple as an alternative is a bit wonky. There are great phones out there like HTC, LG but my favorite is Sony. I've been more happy with my xperia T than I was worth my old cheap galaxy note.

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MaximumMike

I disagree with both of you. How can you call Samsung unethical and then go with Apple or Sony, when both companies are more unethical than Samsung. I've never gotten a rootkit from a Samsung device (Sony), and I've never seen Samsung pretend they invented technology that has been around for decades (Apple). I could go on and on, but I won't.

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limitbreaker

That dirty root-kit incident is what anyone who tries to trash Sony ever brings up. I know that Sony isn't perfect and I sure am not happy with some of the things they have done like cinevia cutting sound off and encouraging me to build an HTPC. But I've never bought hardware from Sony that I've regret whereas Samsung has disappointed me time and time again. They have a corner cutting mentality and it affects the durability of their products.

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MaximumMike

>>That dirty root-kit incident is what anyone who tries to trash Sony ever brings up.

Well duh... it was kind of a big deal. And I personally haven't bought any Sony products since then. And over the years Sony has certainly done thier share to remind why I don't buy their products.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't like Samsung. But it's hypocritical to claim they're unethical and then talk about getting Sony's stuff. If you think Samsung makes junk based on your experience, then by all means buy something you don't think is junk. But if your primary concern is ethics, I'll take Samsung over Apple and Sony any day.

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limitbreaker

Actually my main reason is that they make unreliable junk, their unethical side is a bit pathetic to me but that's all.

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PCLinuxguy

Agreed

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Keith E. Whisman

So long as they don't build and integrate a buggy emotion chip like the one that plagued poor Commander Data.

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Sorian

If they do this for battery only, the biggest problem for not just Samsung but most all manufacturers of phones, I could live with that.

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EKRboi

I hope are paying attention Samsung, Do this and I have purchased my first and last Samsung phone, as well as first and last Samsung TV. I switched to you from Moto, don't make me go back. I like my S4.

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Mithril PC

If it's implemented, I'll be jumping ship. The world doesn't need a second crapple.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

I have to seriously laugh about this since it was only a matter of time before other manufacturers capitalized on this idea.

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CaptainFabulous

Guaranteed and flawless plan to ensure I never, ever buy another Samsung product as long as I live.

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ZX9RDan89

Im with you here. I have a Gs3 (used to have an original Galaxy S), my wife has a Samsung phone, we have several Galaxy tablets at home. If they do this, I will not buy another Samsung device.

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AFDozerman

Apple 2.0

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PCLinuxguy

Ok Samsung, I get that you're trying to seperate yourself from the herd, but copying Aplpe's tactics aren't always a good thing. Doing this is only shooting yourself in the foot and will guarentee that a good chunk of your current userbase will ditch you. XDA will either find a way around this or just nolonger develop anything for your phones. Maybe this is why the last two Nexus phones (N4 and the coming N5) are from LG compared to the first three ebing Samsung.

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MaximumMike

If they do this, I will stop buying their stuff.