Rumors of a 500W Dual-GPU Radeon R9 295 Graphics Card Hit the Web

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Adela Pop

Quite hard to compete with the new Nvidia GeForice GTX Titan Z: 5,760 CUDA cores, 12GB of memory, 106.6 GPixels, 426 GTexels, and 96 ROPS! The only problem with these super-performant GPUs is the cooling. If AMD finds a solution for that, they might have an advantage in the competition.

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acidic

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/radeon_r9_295x2_photos_and_specs_leak_in_asia.html

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vrmlbasic

This is cool and all, but when can I finally get my hands on a decently-cooled R9 290 or 290X?

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BMDC

Right now? Go look at the Sapphire Tri-X 290 and 290X. Both run far south of reference temps and are not only quiet, but the cooler itself looks awesome!

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vrmlbasic

I'm still seeing limited availability and hugely inflated prices. You got my hopes up lol :(

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The Mac

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/amdr9290/

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AFDozerman

Jesus christ, how do you fill up a 16 GB framebuffer?!?

Even with extremely complex multi-million polygon renders, I usually peg out at ~2 gigs. I get that crossfire copies memory to each GPU, but still, 8 gigs?

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The Mac

2 Gigs wont get you battlefield 4 at ultra 150% scaling, let alone next gen games coming.

4K textures are coming, and they are going to chew up some serious memory.

i routinely use 3.5gigs of my 4gig buffer with only 2XAA.

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SliceAndDice

I see these super cards and I don't get how they are still PC parts. This is MaximumPC and that used to mean the maximum gaming-ready graphics and PC parts you could throw together and make an awesome system. Now it has stumbled into the realm of professional graphics with these super-cards. None of the dream machines of the past focused on the multi-cpu systems that were typically only reserved for server junkies but rather the top-of-the-line consumer parts available. This R9 295 card should be labeled a FireGL card rather than a gaming card. Sure a hardcore gamer wanting to eyefinity 3 4k monitors could crossfire 3 of these cards for $9000 and have a nice setup but they are in such a minority that the building such a system is no longer "dream-worthy" but impossible for the 99% of MaximumPC readers. MaximumPC used to focus more on gaming graphics and now with these crazy cards it seems like they're celebrating the "data-miner only" cards. Sure, they'll play the latest games at the highest resolutions but so will the $600 or even $400 cards on the market. I guess my issue with them is that a system that incorporates one or more of these cards has enough power to no longer be considered a "Personal Computer." They're more of a server/workstation computer than a PC. It's cute to see ATI and NVIDIA grapple for the top tier of data mining cards and it should be reported on but the inclusion of these cards in a Dream Machine designed for gaming purposes is laughable. Sorry for the rant. I just don't get how these cards fall under the jurisdiction of a PC.

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AFDozerman

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Even so, this isn't a workstation card, it's a gaming card. No professional in their right mind would buy this for 3DCG or video editing. In the professional world, speed doesn't mean shit if you have to pay for a third of the continent's electricity.

Also, although a thousand dollars is a lot of money, a single middle class working man could still save up and pay for this, and it's a third of the Titan-Z's price.

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LatiosXT

Eh, what defines a workstation card or a gaming card really is what drivers it accepts without hacking. Gamers care more about speed and performance, professionals care more about accuracy. The hardware in the GPU is not fined tuned for anything, it's the same bloody chip.

Also the Titan has better double precision FP and compute performance over the other 700 series. Games don't need that, and it's suggesting NVIDIA is marketing Titan more as a "prosumer" card.

Also if we're going by this logic then I'm surprised my last job wasn't using Xeon processors in the build machines. My build machine had a Core i7-3770, and this was to build components for an SoC software package to millions of customers.

Get the tool that'll get the job done the most efficiently.

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The Mac

The largest difference is the drivers, and the ALU unit.

Workstation cards have massive error correction and are tuned for accuracy, and percision.

Gaming cards could give a flying fart about accuracy, they are tuned for flat out performance errors be damned.

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BMDC

For one, you can only crossfire two of these cards because the maximum number of physical GPU's you can crossfire is 4. Two per each card = 4 obviously.

For two, These cards are tuned for gaming, not graphic design, though I imagine they would work well with graphic design.

For three, one card would have a pretty rough time maintaining 60 FPS in 4k resolution, so Its not entirely out of the realm of possible that quite a few people own 4k monitors, considering they've been dramatically coming down in price the last few months.

Many people are upgrading past 1920x1080 resolution, and I dont blame them. A 1440p monitor can be had for around $400 if you dont mind a cheap korean IPS panel. Personally, I own an Asus 2560 x 1440 IPS/PLS 27" display and my single R9 290 is just about perfect for it.

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kevaskous

Because your cute single 290x, 780ti *Insert other single GPU card here* will -not- run max settings on current and soon to be current gen games on multi monitor or the coming 4k displays at max settings.

People have gotten too comfortable with cheap pc's maxing everything out, but as the games and tech that surrounds the tower improves, the demand on said hardware increases, and thus, you need more power, thus these parts, thus the dream machine.

It is not rocket science. Also, "workstations" have used nearly identical GPU's as "personal computers" for a long, long time, instruction sets are different, work stations simply have more of them, lots more.

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wkwilley2

These companies are just doing what they always have done. It's a constant 1-up battle between the two, and it will continue until one company develops tech that far surpasses the other.

Besides, this card could still be a consumer grade card, unlike the Titan Z, which truly would be a workstation beast.

I would never spend more than half of my computer budget on a GPU, which would mean 400 would be the upper limit for a GPU. It's just not worth it, the prices drop and tech advances too quickly to buy a card of this caliber.

This card will probably have an MSRP of around 1200USD anyway, which is much more affordable than the Titan Z, but still so expensive.

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Rebel_X

Despite you have a valid point of argument, I wish you would have used the "ENTER" key more often. No offense, but the paragraph is an eyesore.

And I agree with you.

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bjoswald

Is it just me, or are these graphics cards getting a little obnoxious? Pretty soon we're going to need a separate PSU and/or enclosure for the damn things.

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Rebel_X

By doing so it would be counter intuitive, the GPU has to be as close as possible to the CPU, any long wiring would reduce the performance.

This makes me wonder what happened with the Intel's light beam CPUs, those that doesn't need to be cooled, pc parts can be apart by up to 50 meters with fiber optic cables and have the speed of light with the only restriction of speed would be the transceivers that emit and receive the data:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/2010/20100727comp_sm.htm

Probably dead! It has been 4 years :<

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Carlidan

I don't think it's dead. It's just not viable at the moment. Even if they brought it to market right now. It would probably too expensive for anyone to afford it.

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Innomasta

I don't see how this can be economical without serious nerfing of the GPU's, a triple slot monster cooler, or included water cooling.

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The Mac

Rumor has it, its to be water cooled ala Ares II.

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Carlidan

If it's close to Titan X performance. It's not bad for 1900 cheaper price tag. Also the 290's went down in price. Too bad it didn't happen 2 months ago. I'm still pretty happy with my 780 OC purchase.

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The Mac

Theoretically, it should beat the titan X.

Some wierdo did some crazy analysis and concluded it should be around 10% faster than the Titan X if its a 290pro X2, and about 15% faster if its a 290XT x2.