Red Harbinger Cross Desk: A PC Desk That Doubles as a Case

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Lagg Master

You should add some induction coils under the glass plate so the mouse and keyboard can be wirelessly charged if sitting in the correct location.

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The Mac

you could do that yourself you know....

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boidsonly

Is that sexy or what?!

Imagine a curved 55" OLED in 21:9 format instead of those 3 monitors?...

I agree, it's nice to see innovation happening in the PC world (pun unintended).

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LilHammer

I had wanted to build my own computer desk-case for a long time but never would have come up with something this nice.

If this becomes as successful as I hope it will be, you should consider creating a "system integrator" version which would be the top part of the desk only. The idea would be like a drop-in sink but it would be a drop-in computer case. I don't want a stand-alone desk, I want mine as a built-in in my den where the desk surface goes wall to wall.

I'm sure you've seen what I'm referring to. Builders/Closet by Design type companies create an office space in a room where a laminated or solid surface like granite goes from wall to wall with storage cabinets overhead and beneath. Rather than storing their computer behind a cabinet door or on the floor or under the desk your case would drop into the surface like a sink, they just have to cut the hole the correct size you specify and presto - custom office and custom computer case/desk.

You'd be relieved of a large part of the shipping burden and part of the complex assembly. You then remove one of the asthetic barriers to selling more of your product since it's more likely that just gamers like the looks and size of the current model and you open up a whole builders/integrators/custom installers arena for your product.

It would also allow you to provide the same crazy-awesome product at a different price point and give everyone the asthetic they want because it's simply integrated into whatever they already like.

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The Mac

cool idea, airflow could be problematic...

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metalglasses

I was inspired by the L3p desk to build one for myself, airflow for this thing is quite excellent.

http://metalglasses.wordpress.com/about/wood-pc-desk-v-2-2/

From looking at the red harbinger desk, I would put the higher end system next to the intake fans and the lower end next the exhaust fans. For the 4x120 radiator locations, one just has to be the intake and the other the exhuast. Pretty much isolating the cooling system away from the heat from the system in order to maximize cooling, hope I explained it right.

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The Mac

There is plenty of space in there you could rig up some kind of ducting/air guides to help with that.

However, i was referring to airflow specifically with LilHammer's drop in model suggestion.

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LilHammer

It wouldn't be too hard to configure the case with multiple fan placement options that are simply covered with blanking plates when shipped.

If you've ever installed an over the range microwave, you have two options for venting it. If you remove the blanking plate, the fan will vent out the back to a builder installed duct that exists the house. If you leave the blanking plate on, the airflow is diverted and will flow out the front of the microwave.

There's no reason there couldn't be fan ducts/vents on the underside of the desk that can be "unblanked", or on the top at the back of the desk. I think it's an easy issue to overcome and with little to no added cost.

It's already beautifully designed and I would be willing to pay $800 - $1200 for a drop-in model.

If that were to ever become an option, they could also provide multiple glass panels for the top in a range of colors like frosted, ice blue, red, some coated with UV reactive paint, etc. So many other options to increase the market it appeals to and so inexpensively. It would also address the common complaint I've seen about dust bunnies.

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Neo_Bahamut_19

To be honest, would be quite nice for those trying to have a gaming machine and a server in the same room while saving space... Server on one side, gaming machine on the other, triple monitors, and no towers or messy cables cluttering the place.

Color me sold, if only I had the money.

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rsaotome

Dammit man! I'm trying to save money here! :P

Very slick looking desk, happy as ever to see some innovation. :)

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RatPatrol

this would be nice with a touch screen for

Artemis ....

http://www.artemis.eochu.com/

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bpstone

Nice! I will wait for the next version. BTW: add air filters.

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Redharbinger

Thanks! We left air filters out for a reason, but the users can surely add some no problem.

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bpstone

Yes, that is an awesome desk! :P I have had an L desk 82 ½in L x 69 ½in W x 27 ½in D x 30in H for years that I want to add onto. It comes in handy with a lot of paper work btw. I could definitely see myself having both my primary workstation and gaming PC side by side. Why did you leave filters out? Adding them would be a must for me. The longer my systems stay clean inside without minor disassembly, the more time I can spend being productive.

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basketcase87

Looks pretty awesome. I wonder if they could do a smaller version. Seems like that might end up with a much more reasonable price range for the average person, while still covering what many of us need. Paying significantly more than most cases is reasonable since it's also a desk, but 2k is quite steep if you're not going to make use of all that space. A 2-person version would be cool too, since you can put 2 computers in there and all that.

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Redharbinger

We might already be working on a smaller unit...

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Hey.That_Dude

This is a pretty cool desk.
Wish they'd gone the extra mile and put lifts on it. Also I'd never vent out the back. My desk is up against the wall, I'd rather have intake in the front sides and output in the back sides. Fan filters wouldn't kill then either. Seriously, I've been thinking of making one or modding a desk to be just like this.

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Redharbinger

It has a lip on the desk so the fans aren't directly against the wall. Plus we do a push/pull configuration where one side pulls air and the other is exhaust. Fans in the front produce more sound and eliminate the ability to have easy access to drive bays. Keep in mind this has had thousands of hours of development by a team of PC builders; you thought of it we have probably already talked about it. :)

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Hey.That_Dude

I never said anything about front fans... "front side" not "frontside." There is a difference, but for clarity I meant "front OF THE side"
As for push pull, unless the exhaust fans are pointed down then my compdesk would be sucking in warmer air as it bounces off the wall and is trapped by the lip you describe. I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing your product. It really is exceptional. I just don't think it would work for me in my current situation.

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Obsidian

This design concept has appealed to several of my group of computer hardware enthusiasts for years. The fabrication work is pretty top notch, and wonderfully prototyped. I have a few questions and comments about it though.

It appears the top of the desk is one section of glass or acrylic, making sure you must remove everything off the desk before you can work on any internals. If you have monitors on the desk it's not a pleasant task.

Regarding monitors; the back of the desk appears to have a unique monitor mount (not exactly the standard pole-mount hole) - so does this triple monitor stand come with the desk? Or is that an additional custom fabrication purchase? There's no place to clamp monitor arms and clearly no pole-mount holes in the desk surface, which makes the display options somewhat limited.

All the images show water-cooled setups. What if I don't want to run water cooling. I find it exceptionally cumbersome to manage/maintain or upgrade a water-cooled computer. Perhaps that throws me out of the target audience for this unit?

The legs of the desk beg to have a scissor-lift option for a sit-stand desk configuration. Sure this will add $1000 or more to the desk price, but it might appeal to some, then it could be touted as more ergo-friendly. Put four U-shaped caster options on the legs and you can appeal to the trendy moving-desk tech companies that exist on the West Coast.

With this kind of set up I understand the limitation of putting only PC fans at the sides and rear of the desk, but it might have benefited from a more efficent larger one or two paddle-wheel-fans driving air channels from the underside of the desk across the hardware inside.

Removable washable fan filters that slide out like a furnace filter on either side could be a nice touch too.

Electrochromic smart glass would again add cost, but could be really awesome for when you just don't want to see the dust bunnies.

Super work, wonderful design.

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benvoliothefirst

Now THAT is an awesome desk. Makes sense to me, in this world of tiny apartments and increasing desktop sizes: why not make the desk real estate and the tower real estate the same thing? Nice bit of convergence here. I wish the development team success. Hopefully there is enough of a market for this to make a more affordable version at some point down the line. Neato!

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scoop6274

Instead of being a see through glass top, I think a good majority of it should be a touch screen monitor as the main screen, duplicated on the center screen, with the other two monitors being extension desktops. The main desktop should have a slight slope to it as well so as to make it easier to view and to reach. Also, it should have an integrated scanner on one side. All the internals should be installed in the legs, one leg one computer, one leg the other. I can even see a custom distribution of Linux being created for this for the greatest customization factor.

I also think $1,699 - 1,999 is the right price for what they have designed. Yes, it is out of the price range of most of us, but in reality, is that who it is designed for? I mean, sure, we'd all like to get a Ferrari for the price of a Focus, but c'mon, that isn't who Ferrari is selling to. This desk isn't designed for the person who only wants to spend $100 on a case (or $300 on a desk). The question really is, are there enough people who would spend $2,000 on a really cool computer desk?

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avenger48

This looks truly amazing, but, since the designers seem to be reading these comments, I have a question. Why only 8 expansion slots? I get the desire for symmetry and water cooling room, but in the $2,000 desk/case extreme PC market, surely there's people who want to use XL-ATX motherboards?

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Redharbinger

We have a XL mobo kit to allow for all the oversized boards. Selling it separate for the users who want it. That really sets it over the top!

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Mikey109105

This desk is AWESOME. Now if only I had the 2 grand to buy it with....Oh wait...I DON'T!

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Peter-L3p

Thanks for the article MaximumPC! :)

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wumpus

Is that little box on the left a [sub]woofer? It really looks like this is a preproduction prototype (made of cardboard or similar) with a standard computer driving the monitors.

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Peter-L3p

The photo indeed is a prototype.
But it certainly is a running dual pc build :)
The box is a Corsair SP2500 subwoofer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffitamlujA

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The Mac

Sick video, thanks.

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neo912

I am in love with this desk!...now I just wish I could afford it.

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appleroxinhouston

They should have delayed Dream Machine 2013 just for this.

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firefox91

For the cost of that "case" alone, I can build a pretty substantial rig. No thanks.

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iplayoneasy

Dream machine 2014

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Redharbinger

We will be sending one over to Maximum PC to see if they can make it a reality.

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The Mac

lucky bastards...

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froggz

WOW!! Looks amazing. My only concern is keeping it looking clean all the time. Dust inside and outside the glass, with all those fans might be too much maintenance. There should be one intake point with an air filter that provides clean air to all the fans. But I'm nitpicking, if I was single I would have this thing setup in the middle of my living room.

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dragonfang18

Yeah i mean I can imagine having to take out the monitors, keyboards, and speakers just to open up the glass table, then start blowing out all the dust, then putting them them all back on top of the desk/case.

I hope it has wheels to move it to an area where i can blow all the dust out.

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warptek2010

Well, there goes another one of my great ideas... gone, gone, gone...
Nice design though and excellent execution. It is just too bad it is priced out of most peoples budgets. It sucks not being rich.

What the hell, take another one of my ideas... make a Star Trek style 'LCARS' version. Make it look like a helm/navigation console or an ops station. There, I gave you a freebie, now please be nice to me and sell me a desk at cost.

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pastorbob

"It is just too bad it is priced out of most peoples budgets. It sucks not being rich."

I heard that. While this desk is truly incredible and one of the best ideas I've seen in years, my current desk and PC case together only cost me $200. Heck, this desk almost costs more than my whole setup with three monitors, desk, chair and PC.

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davelray

I like this desk. The only thing I would like to see is the ability to put keyboard/mouse on a slide out tray and the ability to mount a display under the glass itself.

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Rabs

I assure you man... there's enough room for a monitor under there. And we looked at doing the slide out keyboard thing, but instead decided to give you room for 12 x 2.5" drives under there. I think its a fair trade off. :) -Shawn

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The Mac

Nice to see the vendors responding in here.

Props on the Design, this thing is amazing..

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jason2393

For the size of the case (desk), I wish it was configured to hold two separate computers. Have one do work while playing on the other! In a world that is becoming increasingly mobile, it seems a bit strange for a product to come out that makes a computer -less- mobile. I'm sure there's a market, but I'm not part of it...

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Rabs

Actually Jason, that's exactly what we designed it for. :) -Shawn

http://redharbinger.com/press