Puget Systems Refreshes Quad Socket Workstations

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MrHasselblad

Easily able to exceed some $100,000.oo++ [plus tax with some of these configurations

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evga760

had to go change my pants after i saw "add $19,720" for the xeon E5-4657l option XD

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imagonex

These quad socket systems are very OS specific. One will most likely only run a certain Linux distros or very specific Windows OS version such as Windows Server. Installing any other OS that isn't quad socket compatible will only be a waste.

Then comes the software. Again, not every piece of software out there will make use of solid quad CPU arrangements.

In most workstation situations a dual socket or single socket will be more than adequate. And for some users out there that have to consider expansion and upgrades, the choice of hardware compatibility (and drivers) is critical. I noticed some readers mention the Mac Pro. For some this type of ready-built PC will be more then sufficient. Yes, there are outboard peripherals for it, however, in the modular world as opposed to the proprietary closed system PC world of Mac PC's, this offers the end-user the ability to add or modify his system at a lower cost. Upfront cost may differ from system to system.

Again, choice of software packages and use will determine hardware choices.

All in all, quad socket systems are only oriented for very specific uses and with very specific OSes. Add on top of that driver support. Best left for people with very deep pockets, budgets and very specific goal oriented computer uses.

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Hey.That_Dude

Huh, a server level system requiring server level software/OS. Who'd have thought?
But maybe someone somewhere wants this to develop the next big "thing" (what ever that may be).

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imagonex

Correct, that only confirms what I've said. These are aimed at very specific clientele. I thought I was pretty clear on that. Honestly, a lot of people would've thought way beyond "server level". And in many scenarios, even for server level, one doesn't even require a quad socket PC. Please take note, again, it is very important that one has to take into account that driver, software and hardware compatibility are very narrow for these types of rigs compared to a dual or single socket running Win7 Pro, Win8.1 Pro or OSX or Linux distro (for dual or single socket). Because of this, the vast majority of consumers are better off with a dual or single socket because of the aforementioned.
The "what ever that may be" might be mining, automotive, physics, chemistry, Big Data, and other industries requiring proprietary high-computing powered rigs.
And in most cases, one doesn't need a quad socket to develop the next big thing unless you're working at CERN.
For the remaining and vast majority of professionals out there in fields such as audio, art, animation, engineering (and many others), a dual or single socket PC will suffice. First reason is they work with the software and hardware they purchase. Not always the case for a quad socket with a quad socket compatible OS. When you make a living off these tools all of this is critical.
Again, a quad socket PC is mostly likely to be purchased by a very specific clientele.

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Hey.That_Dude

LOL, guess the sarcasm was lost somewhere in translation. But I agree on most of your points.

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NavarWynn

So when are you guys going to post a review with some benchmarks? Methinks you should put a quad Xeon head to head with a quad opteron system and see what happens...

I'm sure you could find some work/benchmarks that would bog even these guys down... Obviously everything is going to be heavy multithread, so see if more cores or better cores take the crown!

Maybe explore what the practical impact of 500G vs 1T of ram REALLY is... ?

I mean, this is **MAXIMUM** PC right? I doubt you'll find a PC that's more MAXIMUM than these rigs!

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AFDozerman

Man, I remember seeing one of pudget's systems on youtube one time with four water-cooled Opterons. I can only imagine the workload you'd néed to have one of these for...

Also, the trashcan pro can suck it!

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LatiosXT

Well interestingly enough, Mac Pros are the only computer Apple offers that is actually very hard to build something for the same price that's better. At least if you went to Newegg and started plopping down the parts.

Otherwise, compute wise I think the Mac Pro beats Puget's base system, since all it has for a GPU is a GeForce GT 610.

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John Pombrio

I just bought my son a MacBook Pro. I NEVER, EVER thought I would buy a Mac, ever. But I looked at dozens of laptops and the best specs: weight (my son REALLY wanted a light laptop), CPU, RAM, SSD, screen resolution, the Mac won. Mind you, I could have gotten close on a PC version and it might have been at most couple hundred cheaper, but the Mac just had so many good reviews that I could not ignore it.

One consolation is that my son will being running Linux exclusively on the Mac. He has his masters and working on his doctorate in programming languages in comp sci so he can do that.

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AFDozerman

Damn, I leave this site for a couple months and come back to people buying macs? What the hell happened while I was gone???

Seriously, whatever floats your boat, I guess. My wife is a serious Mac fangirl, which has given me more than ample opportunities to toy with mac products and I just don't like their stuff. There's something about it that's just...toyish.

Why is he putting Linux on a mac? Both OSes are POSIX compliant, so most software written for Linux should be extremely easy to port, or is he working with a lot of closed source software?

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LatiosXT

I'm getting a Mac Mini for development purposes because of a morbid curiosity.

I mean, I could just spend $300 on cheap parts and put Linux on it but eh.

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QuantumCD

Sadly, Macs are still one of the best platforms to develop on for cross-platform purposes. Reason being, you can (legally) put both Windows and Linux on there. For mobile, you can develop on both Android and iPhone (and Windows Phone, if you consider being able to run Windows). As far as I know, this is why you see a lot of developers with Macs.

So far, I have been able to compile/test applications I work on when I absolutely need to in a Mac VM... this choice isn't exactly going to make Apple happy though. It's also not a good option when you're looking to test real-world performance (VM performance is horrid).

I simply refuse to spend money on a Mac when you can (generally) get much better performance/dollar on the Windows platform. However, I *might* consider a MacBook Pro when my laptop is due for replacement...

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MrHasselblad

@ QuantumCD

I've had many non Mac dual boot and tri boots for years, completely legally.

Not W8 yet, but... Presently have three separate computers; two running Microsoft Windows 7, the third running Windows Server as their primary operating systems.

Use the other operating systems as secondary (and even beyond that) operating systems, such as Mac 10.9.3, and various Linus configurations.

Know several Microsoft employees whom also do the same, all completely legally. As a matter of fact when inquiring with those Microsoft employees about possible legal issues, they were not aware of ANY legal issues outside of using a version of Office on a multi-boot platform.

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AFDozerman

There was actually a laptop server replacement that MPC did an article on awhile ago that beats the mac pro and is also cheaper. I can't remember the name of it, but it had some awesome specs.

Edit: found it. Specs aren't as massive as I remember, but still substantially massive for its formfactor.

http://www.maximumpc.com/eurocom_builds_first_12-core_24-thread_laptop_weighs_12_pounds

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LatiosXT

Just had a look at it for funsies. The base model of that laptop does have a better CPU than the base model of the Mac Pro, but I think the dual GPUs in the Mac Pro still give it more compute performance overall.

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AFDozerman

I can agree with that, but a few minutes of boredom gave me an opportunity to play with different configurations and the two definitely trade some serious blows at different price points and usage scenarios.

MPC should definitely do a multi-way battle between rigs like this.