Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 Ti Benchmarks

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kiaghi7

SIX! Well that's all of them!

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The Mac

certainly not, but they are very large ones.

If the large houses use it, it will trickle down....

The bigges being Dice/EA - Frostbite.

Frostbite will be used in Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Mirrors Edge, and a bunch of other AAA titles.

Thats pretty damn huge.

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The Mac

If sales start to sag, im sure they will just throw a bunch of free games at it.

Worked last time.

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joshnorem

The GTX 780 Ti comes with three free games already as part of their holiday bundle. 

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The Mac

as will AMDs new cards eventually.

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roleki

If it's all the same to you, I'll take the 700$ 780ti that kicks ass right out of the box, over the 550$ R9 290X that would require another investment of 100$ and some labor on my part in order to get numbers that are in the neighborhood of the 780ti.

Don't get me wrong, if I had the time it'd be a fun project, but anymore I'd rather spend what little free time I have actually using my pc, not modifying things so that I can say I "saved" 150$.

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Nimrod

if you paid attention you would know that lots of vendors will be releasing versions with their own coolers that will the same thing.

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AFDozerman

Time for a 290x boost edition.

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Bdiddytampa

That's the thing, they can't push that card any more than it already is :-/ From the looks of it, a lot of the cards have problems running at the current level, so pushing that chip any harder is probably out of the question...

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The Mac

bullshit, i guarantee AIBs will push it up to 1100 easy.

Its already been done by a bunch of people with Acellero IIIs, and Gelid Icys who are getting 1150-1300 on air.

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AFDozerman

Agreed. I don't know why AMD refuses to move away from those terrible refrence coolers. If we hated them then, we're sure as hell gonna hate them now.

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AFDozerman

Time for a 290x boost edition.

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LatiosXT

Before you consider the R9 290X, there's some flak on AMD's end that the review units of the 290X are different than what AMD shipped out, and the review units are faster. And while AMD does provide a nice price/performance ratio anyway for the R9 290 cards, that doesn't mean anything to me when I have a jet engine in my computer (i.e., they run hot and with the reigns let loose, loud).

@limitbreaker
Funny, two of my "reputable sources" say that the 780 Ti can go up to 62 FPS or 61 FPS on Crysis 3. 41 FPS or 23 FPS if you go 4K.

Not everyone reviewer uses the same setup. And MPC should've provided theirs.

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joshnorem

It says right below the charts what we used. All settings max on every game, 4X AA enabled as well. Let me know if I can answer any specific questions for you.

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The Mac

This has already been debunked, there was no cherry picking going on.

AMD is looking into a potential problem with the fans, on the new boards they use pwm rather than rpm, and its casuing some variation. They are concidering switching back to rpm for uniformity.

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limitbreaker

It's not about the actual fps, it's about the fps compared to a different card with the same setup. This is why I provided both results compared to the titan. I thought it was obvious

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Carlidan

Please show the site so we can see for ourselves. Just saying it, doesn't help us. This way we can make our own conclusions.

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limitbreaker

I'm working right now and I can't give you a complete response but I am basing this on the review at guru3d which have time and time again proven not to be biased. This is btw coming from a guy with a gtx780, I just hate biased reviews and believe they should be called out.

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Carlidan

If you read the article. Guru turn on AA and Maximum PC turns them off. That could the the discrepancy there.

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limitbreaker

Again, you miss the point... Simply turning on AA isn't going to make the titan perform 30% slower than the 780ti, specially because it has so much more memory.

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Carlidan

The only difference I see in 3dguru's and maximum pc 4k benchmark is on bf4 results which is 11 fps difference and both of them uses different resolutions on theirs. But on the other games, they are basically on par with each other on results.

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dgrmouse

7GHz memory clock frequency? 7Gb/s, perhaps, but 7GHz is quite unlikely.

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QuantumCD

GPU memory rated at 7Gb/s would be horrendously slow compared to most GPUs, if I'm not mistaken...

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Bdiddytampa

That is what the memory runs at... I have a GTX 770 and its memory is indeed 7000MHz...

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dgrmouse

That's odd, because every other website lists the memory clocks at a much more believable 1.75 GHz. If you've got your RAM clocked at 7GHz, you should enter one of those overclocking competitions.

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brannank

AMD should know better. This is the classic GPU wars strategy, wait for the opposing team to furnish their goods and steal their thunder by presenting the ace card you've been hiding behind your back for that very occasion all along. Who knows, perhaps AMD will have a secret uber R9 card ready to unveil at a press conference tomorrow.

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The Mac

I think youve missed the point here.

This is by no means a win for nvidia.

$150 more for a card thats marginally better than the 290x, and the 290 pro is within spitting distance for $300 less.

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brannank

The pointing out of Graphics Card War strategy is a valid response to the article and an established historical fact as well. I remember having a week old rig with 4X AGP Nvidia GTX 6800 Ultras in SLI when I received the new Maximum PC issue that's cover story was the ATI 9800 XT with 8X AGP-"NOOOOOOOOOO!" , that was a quote buy the way. I saw that what I just purchased was no longer the best you could buy-in less than seven days!

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Carlidan

I'll agree with you the pricing is so overblown. And not worth the extra dough with just a marginally difference. But some people are willing to pay for it. Right now I'm considering the 290 or 770 for next upgrade. I want to get the reference 290 but getting a card running @ 94 degrees for @ least 4-10 hours kinda of freaks me out. That's my typical game play on the weekends.

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John Pombrio

My attitude is the life expectancy of the graphics card. If I am going to spend $400+ for a card that I will be using pretty regularly for 3-4 years, a couple hundred bucks difference depreciates into a few dollars a month, definitely worth the money for a quiet card. Besides, NVidia has been good about boosting frame rates with driver updates.

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The Mac

life expectancy for a majority of people purchasing cards at this price point is less than two years.

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The Mac

why the 770? its beaten up pretty badly by the 290 pro.

if anything go for the 780. some of the AIBs have pushed right up agaist the titan.

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Carlidan

I'm trying to have a budget of 400 or less. 780 will defeat that purpose of my budget. And my next full upgrade is when skylake comes out. Right now I have Sandy Bridge i7 2600k and it's enough at the moment.

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The Mac

i have a 2500k myself OCed to 4.5GHZ.

Sounds like the 290 pro is the best for your budget.

wait for the AIBs though, should get some nice OCs out of them.

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Carlidan

Ah I get it. r290 is the pro. I got confused when you said pro. Thought pro would be the X version. :)

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The Mac

its the name of the actual chip: Hawaii XT, and Hawaii Pro.

XT=top of the line
pro=gimped XT

its just easier that way, because if i just said 290, people wold be like "x" or non "x"?

AMD should have done that itself, it would be less confusing.

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limitbreaker

Another bad review by the most biased person at maxpc... You clearly show your true colors in this review. The gtx 780ti doesn't have magical powers, it is the exact same architecture as the 780 with some more processors and it performs roughly 5~10% faster than the titan.

Your benchmarks have some huge inconsistencies... For example for crisis 3 you have the 780ti with 34fps and the titan with 27fps while a reputable source gives very different results; 780ti 44fps, titan 43fps... I say you clearly fumbled in your benchmarks and you're misleading the good people who rely on this site for information.

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John Pombrio

I have trusted Gordon and his team for years and years now. They have never steered me wrong. If they say they get a particular frame rate, I take them at their word. I trust them a LOT more than pretty much any other site, one of the few. That is why I am HERE TODAY, heh.

BTW, Take the Best of the Best list and you can name 3/4 of my components in my PCs. Gordon picks them and I buy them.

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limitbreaker

I trust Gordon's reviews, when I see bad reviews on other sites I don't really care to comment about it but I don't want this site to be the next Tom's hardware. I trust maxpc but lately the reviews have been written by someone other than Gordon and the quality has really dropped and I voice this hoping it doesn't get worst.

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The Mac

pretty much the same...

This is actually the first time ive scratched my head at one of their reviews...

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The Mac

Interetsing that MaxPC say its faster by a wide margin, most of the other sites are saying "meh...yeah, its a little faster, but the the experience is identical for $150 more"

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Carlidan

Well the benchmarks don't lie. And it's faster than the titan in gaming. So maybe there methods might be different in benchmarking I'm guessing.

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limitbreaker

In this case they clearly are, do a little research and you'll see. Don't trust anything written by Josh Norem

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Carlidan

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2061900/nvidias-700-gtx-780-ti-slays-titans-and-radeons-alike.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nvidia-gtx-780-ti-3gb-review/1
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-ti-review-benchmarks,3663.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780_Ti/

Techpowerup quote for BattleField 4:
GeForce GTX 780 Ti is 8% faster than the press-sampled R9 290X, which holds on to its clock rate most reliably. Our retail board drops to lower frequencies in the lab, allowing 780 Ti to beat it by 29%.

All of the basically said the same thing. It is faster than titan by around 9 percent and r290x by around 10 percent. So how is this bias?

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limitbreaker

That's perfectly fine, the 780ti CAN beat the titan for about 5%~10%, the problem is that this isn't the results Josh is showing us here.

Ps: do not link Tom's hardware as a source, they're the most biased site there is.

I personally trust guru3d and anandtech because they have no fanboys writing articles.

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The Mac

yeah, THG is complete shite...

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The Mac

again, its the conclusion thats the problem.

10% can easily be gained by a fairly small overclock.

so how is it worth $150-$300 more?

25-30%, ok ill buy it. but 10% (and that's debatable) is lousy.

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yu119995

Not a sizeable enough performance gap to justify the extra $150 over the R9-290X. I can easily put that into a better CPU, mobo, more RAM, better case etc.

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Ghost XFX

That's awesome, but my pockets...ow!

More seriously, I'd still take the R9 290X over it. Cost and performance wise, it's more than enough, plus, I don't have to buy a brand new monitor for Mantle.

Biggest issue for me with the R9...that damn noodle strainer fan!!!!!

Seriously, AMD, get your ass in gear and replace that damn thing! It was bad when it first hit the market, it's no damn better today! Somebody needs to call them out on that damn thing! Because reference card or not, it allows more heat to remain around the card than if they just gave it a real fan to cool it down with.

Where's Gordon!? Somebody Send Gordon and the Borg Collective to AMD to muscle those meatheads around! Their fan SUCKS, and you have no idea how bad the puns are in that statement!

Oh, BTW...Nvidia can drop the price on their Titan now. It's obvious it no longer lives up to it's name.

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The Mac

I have a feeling its done intentionally to give the AIBs some value-add.

You want it NOAW..you get the noodle strainer.

If you can wait a month or two, the AIBs get a little extra dough...