Nokia Lumia 1020 Smartphone Should Frighten Digital Camera Makers

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pastorbob

I picked up a really nice mid-range Fuji camera at Wal-Mart about three months ago for 75% off the original price. So I think we are already seeing the impact of decent smart phone cameras.

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Damnlogin

Pretty much the only 2 problems I see with this phone is 1) No removable battery and 2) Microsoft's no effort approach to giving WP8 the features it needs.
It's actually pretty funny how Nokia is working on it's own update for the Lumia range which should introduce more features than the upcoming WP8 GDR2 update.
The biggest problem with WP8 is Microsoft!

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wumpus

Trash pixels and still no SDHC port. Why is this a big thing?

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brigor

Unless this sensor is the size of a quarter, you're just going to have 41 noisy megapixels. Not to mention bad colour accuracy, poor dynamic range, etc. The megapixel count is about the last order of priority to getting good pix. The main reason smartphones aren't real cameras is their terrible exposure and operating controls. I might change my view the day any smartphone let's me set the f/stop and shutter speed, do AE lock or release the shutter with a real button. Real cameras still do, so a 41 MP smartphone sensor won't frighten any digital camera makers.

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Damnlogin

Look up the Nokia 808 Pureview.
If this is anything like the Nokia 808 + the addition image stabilization...I'm expecting greatness.
Pretty stupid to not include a removable battery and MicroSD though.

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Refuge88

I'm no photographer, but the artile does state you can change the shutter settings. Not sure how much control or how intuitive thay may be.

Just thought it was a point worth mentioning.

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loozer

At this point it might be more worth to pick up a galaxy camera...

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Keith E. Whisman

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vrmlbasic

2...buckle my shoe...3, 4...shut the door....

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Keith E. Whisman

The camera is awesome but you failed to mention the Operating System. Is it Windows Phone 8 or is it Android? Or is it possibly some sort of Symbian OS?

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Julian Reiche

All lumia branded phones are Windows Phones including this one ... for better or worse :)

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Baer

We have been using Windows phones for the last six months and really like them. Still, it is getting to the point where a smart phone is a smart phone.

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vrmlbasic

"That is a semantically null statement"<- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

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TheStewardess

Lens quality matters the most
Next is Mega pixels
Depending on your final output
You can use all forms of media

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Refuge88

Not gunna lie I was VERY impressed with how well HTC's foray into "Mega/Ultra pixels" worked out. I don't want a picture the size of my house, but I do want one I can see!

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Damnlogin

HTC's Ultra/Mega pixel feature thing is pretty much a less feature rich version of Nokia's Pureview tech.

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albe23

I believe the lens is a Carl Zeiss or just 'Zeiss' as the company has shortened the name.

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whiskeymcclinton

We'll have to wait and see how this thing performs in the real world.
From what I've gathered, it doesn't really take 41MP photos, so everyone needs to stop jumping all over that.
Instead it combines pixel groups together and processes the 41MP image into lower resolution, but higher quality images. If the grouping works properly, it should cancel out the issue of low light performance with too many pixles on a small sensor. It also should give decent quality digital zoom images, with less of a drop in resolution.

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albe23

This is based off of Nokia's 808 but the 1020's sensor might have a co-processor to handle the load and has OIS. Yes you are right that it oversamples but its still a 41MP sensor in a phone. Its still bonkers regardless.

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runner7775

Just a note: While the sensor is 41 MP, most of the photos coming out of the phone will not be. Some people may set the phone to output those enormous pictures, but I assume the default setting will be to output either 5 or 8 MP images.

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roberto.tomas

when is enough enough? 41MP is a lot of trash pixels to sort through, even if it is the second 40+MP camera from Nokia. It doesn't seem to address dark lighting conditions, or shoot in 4k video, or offer focusing after the shot is taken .. all of these technologies exist in different sensors. this sensor is pushing the envelope too, but just in more pixels.

modern printers do a pretty fine job at 150-220dpi for most photos. What does that make at 41mp? I mean, there has to be some benefit here...

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albe23

Dark lighting? You've seen a Lumia 920 take low light photos right? The 1020 sensor is that but way bigger, with a mechanical shutter, suspended in springs like the 920. This thing is going to take amazing low light photos. As for focusing after the shot, I hope. Why else would they be oversampling like crazy. Also, who the hell is using 4k video? Only a handful of sets can even handle that atm. 4k TVs are awesome though, but way ahead of their time. I still give it 5-7 years before 4k is close to a standard.

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vrmlbasic

In 5-7 years 1080 might finally be the standard for TV broadcast, finally phasing out 720 and 1080i; I don't share your optimism...

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LGA1156

I am a die hard Android user, but this impresses me I might go take a look at it.

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big_montana

The lack of expandable storage is a dealer breaker for this phone, as the photo size will be massive and will eat up the internal storage quickly. What was Nokia thinking by not including SD card storage?

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Julian Reiche

The photo size is down sampled to about 5mp, the sensor will shoot 32mp in 16:9 and 38mp in 4:3 aspect ratio. The physical sensor is 41mp but it is circle meaning you lose pixels as you put a square over the sensor. The camera worlds for combining (I believe) 7 pixels into one, or that is how is how the 808 worked I suspect this one will include OIS for low light photos. 

32GB is lots, on my 920 I still have 10GB after a year of lots of shooting.

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CanuckTom

I have the 920 and expandable storage is not required with SkyDrive.

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big_montana

And that is what everyone ripped the HTC One for, no expandable storage, but Nokia does it then it is fine.

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Refuge88

Still not a huge fan of the cloud yet... just my own personal clouds.

Then again, I can understand the convenience, and it is a possible solution. Just not one that I'm too fond of myself.

I was quick to dump physical media, but not my own physical servers.

Those I will cling to until I die!

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Refuge88

I was just thinking this exact same thought half way through the article.

I don't think my HTC One X+'s 64gb would last an afternoon with a camera like this...