No BS Podcast #226: In-depth Interview with AMD Graphics Guru Richard Huddy

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tetris42

Wow. I listened to this interview and it makes me kind of ashamed of Nvidia. These are dirty, dirty practices that hurt all gamers and standards. I have an Nvidia card because they have more AA options, but the Gameworks thing couldn't be more sleazy. If AMD can ever catch up with AA options, I'll definitely jump ship.

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Zee530

I would never use the 'epic' to describe an interview, but this just was and so much more.

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ApathyCurve

Hey, Dick! Let's talk about graphics drivers. As in AMD ne ATI still can't write one that doesn't suck. You'd think nearly 30 years of practice would have at least made them competent at it. You'd be wrong.

AMD/ATI have a smaller market share than Nvidia because they have an inferior product. End of discussion. Now stop barking conspiracy theories and get back to the workbench.

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limitbreaker

Apathy... That was unintelligible nonsense... Go back in your hole little troll.

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Jaymondo

Very Good interview, like to see more of this kind of thing, I would also like to see Nvidia respond, though I cant see that happening as there position is clearly not a good one. Mantle performance in Thief by the way is excellent. I like AMDs openness , I dont remember Nvidia offering its API, "CUDA" for the greater good of everyone ?

However, on a personal note, it does annoy me to hear someone who is clearly British, like myself pronounce "Garage" with an attempted american tongue, (Yes like you Mr Calvin Fish, ESPN Indycar)

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Flash0verride

amazing podcast and interview.

please do more like this.

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Insula Gilliganis

-First off.. who the h*ll is Connor?

-Secondly.. who the h*ll is the AMD "handler/monitor" next to Richard?

-The very first question I would have asked Richard.. "Why are you now working again for AMD?" And my second quesiton, "Why are you here today?"

He seems liked a "hired gun", going from company to company, spouting whatever corporate BS who is paying him and with an English accent that automatically makes everything sound 30% smarter. He has been at AMD for TWO WEEKS.. and already he is up to speed on everything enough to go on the circuit (PCPer & MPC)?

I am sure you can get nVidia's Tom Petersen to come on and do the same thing.. slam the competition. What good is that though? How about instead of sucking up to the hype machine of either AMD or nVidia, MPC and PCPer both should have said "Sure we will have you on, but with your competition right next to you to respond". That would have been a lot more informative as well as entertaining. But that type of "debate" would never happen because it is all about the 24/7 hype machine that wants a certain message given to the masses unencumbered with discussion and analysis, and which ends up usually over-promises and under-delivers (examples --> Intel touting 5GHz i7-4790 on air when 4.7GHz is what really occurs; AMD Execs tweeting retail FX-9590 as "something new" when it has been out already for a year.. released June 11, 2013)

-24 comments here (excluding mine & Jimmy's) while the previous THREE episodes had TWELVE total (although MPC only cares about iTunes & FB comments anyway) which tells you that the MPC audience wants news & discussion about PC related products and topics.. NOT Google self driving cars.. NOT console/Steam Machines discussions.. NOT Android/Chromebook chatter.. NOT Net Neutrality.. NOT non-PC items. I thought the podcast would go downhill after Josh left.. and I was correct!! Back to the days of Nathan where just about anything BUT PC hardware is discussed.

-Best of all about podcast #226.. NO Star Wars or any other movie influenced RANT!

-The best MPC podcasts are when the talk is about PC related items, not mobile, not Google moonshots, not rumors of stuff that might be out three years in the future.

-Lastly, want to stop hearing MPC mention that they have a magazine to write so no time for a weekly podcast or anything else out of the ordinary as UK based PC PRO magazine puts out a WEEKLY podcast (podcast.pcpro.co.uk) that actually discusses articles within their magazine (something MPC never seems to do except for Dream Machine) while putting out a MONTHLY magazine. Check out their podcast that has 99% fewer "you know"s, "um-hum"s and "I was just going to say"s than the NO BS podcast. Plus you get to hear guys with English accents that automatically makes them all seem 30% smarter!!

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ZX9RDan89

Interesting. I am listening to the latest PC PRO podcast (http://video.cloudfront.pcpro.co.uk/pcpro/podcast/pcpro_podcast_319.mp3)

28 minutes in, about half-way, all they have been speaking about is WiFi on trains to serve mobile customers and the new Blackberry Passport phone. Truth is, people who are (or see themselves as PC enthusiasts) are in fact tech enthusiasts. besides, modern phones and tablets are computers anyways.

A debate would have been nice, but it is not 100% up to MPC to decide if the competition will respond, it`s up to NVidia. Actually, I am under the impression that most of the MPC crew prefer the green team's products.

About the rants. Yes, many of them are quite useless and end up being more of a pointless discussion about Star* movies. But the fact is that many listeners love the rants. Why else would so many of us enjoy the `whole rant`compilation podcasts. the great thing about it is that it is at the end of the podcast. That means, if you do not get anything from it, you are free to stop the playback and move on.

All that being said, you are entitled to your opinion. These forums are here so that you can express your opinion so you did well in availing yourself of that opportunity. However, we don`t all share your opinion.

oh! Look! Rolling over the 40 minutes mark, and the PC Pro podcast crew is now talking about the Samsung Galaxy Tab S. ;)

My Opinion Doesn`t Matter
Dan

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fung0

Excellent interview, lacking only in just one basic detail: your interviewees' names - AND TITLES - in the credits. I seriously doubt that Huddy's business card says "Graphics Guru." (If it does, you definitely need to be more clear about it - perhaps use Capital Letters.)

What's more, this kind of info should be in the CREDITS, in text form, not merely mentioned in passing. You provide the reason: while you do mention the name of the second AMD person, it's completely unintelligible in the audio.

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Shalbatana

This was most enlightening and enjoyable! Great interview. Thank you!

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sK0pe

Hopefully you will have access to more guests.

Really interesting to hear that nVidia stacks the cards from the game development phase.

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jimmthang

We'd like to get more guests on and will hopefully get an Nvidia rep on to tell their side of the story in the near future! :)

Stay tuned. 

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limitbreaker

That was an amazing podcast and even the volume was stable, thank you very much MPC.

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The Mac

double post

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Best Podcast so far...

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vrmlbasic

This podcast was excellent. I was impressed by both the AMD representation and the way y'all @ MPC picked their brains.

I do wish that the AMD guy had elaborated on the frame buffer size issue as I recall an 8 GB version of the R9 290 that didn't really see the light of day. With proper game quality controls the memory shouldn't be an issue but if we had 8 GB cards it wouldn't be an issue.

It was interesting that he implied that even the Llano APUs, which I believe were based on the 6000 series Radeon HD, were capable of FreeSync but the 6000 and 7000 HD discrete cards were not.

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The Mac

Sapphire has just released a 8gb card.

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Jeffredo

A bigger threat to PC gamers is them not releasing a competent gaming CPU to counter Intel.

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boidsonly

Absolutely fascinating interview. Please do more of this!?!?!

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tetris42

Plan to check this out later, that's great that you got an industry insider to talk on the show, really looking forward to it.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Wonderful to hear Mr. Huddy speak, rather than simply read a string of quotes. He is such a brilliant, articulate fellow and reminds me of some of the better professors I've known over the years: You simply love to hear them talk, and could listen all day long.

Thanks for getting him into the studio.

On the other hand, I did not appreciate Gordan taking shots at the PC community. Apparently, we complain too much.

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LatiosXT

>On the other hand, I did not appreciate Gordan taking shots at the PC community. Apparently, we complain too much.

It depends on the camp you're talking about. Gamers tend to be a very vocal whiny camp. Some of the FOSS crowd tend to be vocal groups. And it's usually the outspoken few that people see as the whole crowd.

But in the end, all this blind fanboyism is silly.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Gordan didn't appreciate it when a bunch of people here when he posted his "Stop the Windows 8 hate" were saying he's now a fraud and clearly was bought out by Microsoft to say nice things. If anything, that may have marred his view on the PC community. As much as the Arma II summer sale incident on Steam has marred mine.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Since you brought it up, I'll argue that Gordon sided with the wrong camp, the underwhelming minority who somehow appreciate radical changes to the Windows operating system and the notion of a closed computing ecosystem under Microsoft's absolute control and authority. And I'll argue that those "whiny" people who are so quickly dismissed by that same underwhelming minority are just the smallest tip of a very, very large spear.

The businesses across the world that are not migrating to Windows 8 are a little too busy working and making money to participate in many online discussions regarding the merits of an operating system designed from the ground up to promote abject consumerism and suckle couch potatoes. They are therefore being represented by a much smaller and insignificant group of like mind but with more free time. Ignoring and dismissing that group, regardless of their insignificance in the big picture, is simply naïve. Focusing on that group as if it were the root cause of opposition to Microsoft's plan for the future distracts attention away from a much larger problem, so perhaps the practice is wholly intentional.

The larger opposition to the new operating system can easily be judged by the level of vitriol coming from this one particular group you apparently have so much disdain for. The inability to see beyond that which is most readily in view betrays low-level thinking and primitive defense mechanisms crippling executive decision making, analysis and synthesis. Look past gamers and FOSS to the offices and work spaces around the world not migrating to Windows 8 and, by extension, the vision of all PC content flowing from a single source of absolute power. Look past the red-hot tip of the spear to see who is wielding the damn thing. Do you really want to piss that guy off?

I can respect Gordon for sticking his neck out, but he absolutely picked the wrong camp to side with and should have known better. How hot does the fire have to get before you realize it's a bad idea to stick your head in it?

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LatiosXT

How exactly is saying Windows 8 is okay and tolerable is the wrong camp? Is there a right way to do computers? Some God of Computing has laid some rules set in stone that says "this is the way to do computers, any other way is a mortal sin"?

I'm one of the few people who will say Vista wasn't that bad (I've used as a primary OS, both on a laptop and my desktop) and that Windows 8 isn't bad either. And I'll be instantly branded a fucking moron by the majority who goes with whatever the rest of the sheep say.

Is sudden change bad? Sure. But is outright rejecting something because the apparent majority says it's bad the right thing to do?

Besides, I don't see Gordon as a man who stuck his head in a fire he wasn't supposed to. I see a man who stuck to his convictions and didn't comprise his integrity to appease the majority. And he still has his job.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Sometimes the majority is right, and the minority is dead wrong.

Sheep? Seriously? Do I come across as someone who gives a fuck what anyone thinks?

Of course, when your money and career are invested in a big fat mistake, it can harder to understand this. Add inflated egos into the mix, and let's just let the blind lead the blind, shall we?

Not that I expect you to appreciate any viewpoint other than your own. You're much to proud and stubborn for that.

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The Mac

what was the arma2 summer sale incident?

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LatiosXT

Back in summer 2012, it was coincidentally timed with the whole DayZ craze. Everyone was waiting for ARMA II Combined Operations (which was ARMA II and an expansion) to go on the dailies. It was floating around $25 at the time off $40 or so. Anyway, it went on the dailies for $18, the forums were filled with people saying how Steam or Bohemia Interactive were trying to milk it for all its worth and that it "should've been" $10 or even $5.

They didn't even care about ARMA II, they just wanted to play some zombie mod that had more bugs than Windows Me.

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The Mac

great podcast guys.

Way better than that boring PCPer interview...

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John Pombrio

Great Podcast! Richard was a high quality gent who really knew his stuff and could explain it well. Good job on getting him into the studio. His rant about Gameworks was way better than Gordon's bodywash one.

I like how AMD is letting Mantle and Freesync become open source standards without licensing fees. I still have questions about how many developers and vendors will take them up on these two new standards. I guess it will be how much it helps in real world situations and how much it costs to implement Freesync. Will Intel and NVidia buy into it is really the point since Intel integrated graphics is the number one graphics vendor and NVidia sells a hel'of'alot of graphics cards.

As for the Gameworks controversy, to me it is just that, a controversy. Is it a plot to sink AMD by NVidia? Sounds a bit farfetched to blame dog hair and cape flapping as a game changer. Companies have been gaming games and benchmarks for so long that I expect this to continue until only one company is left, Intel (heh).

All this aside, I am still partial to NVidia and unless AMD can pull another rabbit out the hat like it did against Intel and NVidia a decade ago, I am sticking with EVGA and NVidia (and Intel processors). Sorry, AMD.

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vrmlbasic

I thought about going Nvidia but with the 290 being in the mid 400s and the Nvidia "best" (knowing Nvidia...) being several hundred dollars more but not offering commensurate performance increases I had to pick the Red Team.

So far I've learned that Thief isn't an amazing game but Mantle is pretty amazing technology, at least for someone who is playing Thief with an 8350 CPU. :)

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AFDozerman

Yeah, I freaking LOVE Mantle. 8150 master race reporting in...

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vrmlbasic

I'm hoping to see some more cool things from the Mantle-enabled game Sniper Elite 3.

Though if it is anything like Thief I'll have to find someone else with a Mantle enabled machine to play the coop campaign in that game as Thief does not play well, at least for me, with directX.

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The Mac

Thief is UE3. UE3 is finicky.

Sniper Elite uses Asura, in house engine so you should be fine.