No BS Podcast #209: The Dream Machine Episode

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Block_Dude

@limitbreaker:
MP3's are always in the RSS feed:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/maximumpc/1337

Although I haven't found a good RSS app yet for android...I always use RSSOwl for the desktop.

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limitbreaker

I just found the tiny link below the video box, guess I'm just used to clicking the messy link in the article itself.

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limitbreaker

I don't know why there is no mp3 of the podcast but this leaves me out. I'm not going to stream a video of this episode on my phone's data.

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joshnorem

Here's the link to the MP3: http://dl.maximumpc.com/maxpc_209_20130813.mp3

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iplayoneasy

Dream Machine 2010. Nothing you've built has been faster in multithread since you built that 4GHz, 24 thread monster.

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praack

My stomach flipped seeing beige!

but the keyboard- pulled it out of the closet- always ready for backup- they are right about those unicomps (used to be the lexmark for ibm)- always work, heavy, but were PS2.

and they were also right about the patent still in use- Unicomp is still in business- now making USB versions
http://pckeyboard.com/

way cool

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joshnorem

Thanks for the link - we'll have to check it out :D

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joeyjr

Great job on this years Dream Machine, 6th in the world not to bad. MNPC did a cool mod for the same case puting a grill in the front to aid in cooling, but the temp you got for all the hardware is dam good. Pci-e 1x Flex Ribbon Extension Cable could have been added for a sound card if you wanted because the case has 10 expantion slots. Also, they do make flow meters that could have been added to the front panel. If using Windows 8 I would have to check to see if my 400 Steam games that I have been collection for 9 years would work before committing to only one OS.All in all I like this years theme to showcase the old made new. The 4k display and the LGA 2011 motherboard is the only thing I predicted this year, for I was hoping the Ivy Bridge-E and an AMD HD 9000 series would have been ready on time. Thanks for this years DM and another great Video Podcast. Dream on.

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joshnorem

Thanks for the comments, we appreciate it!

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Sysexternals

Good podcast, as usual. One request: While Gordon's rant isn't the only reason I listen, it's a pillar of the 'cast. It might be time for Josh to set aside five minutes per episode for his own common sense observations, maybe at the start of podcast. Doing so would preserve Gordon's (uncommon sense) rant time, which seems like it's been getting squashed in recent months, and guarantee Josh some quality time that he no doubt deserves.

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joshnorem

Thanks for the feedback. On this one since I talked for a few minutes I gave Gordon extra time to do his thing. I have never straight up cut his mic except when we're up against a hard time limit, but I usually give him 15 minutes or so at the end. I'll be sure to make sure he gets enough time though.

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Glycerin

The program I use with locked files to unlock them is Unlocker 1.9.1

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joshnorem

Thanks for the note, we'll make sure to commit it to memory.

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lifeboat

You could have overclocked the GPUs by removing fans so you would be using less electricity. Removing the fans would also increase the space available in the case.

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joshnorem

True, but the fans were all attached to radiators, so we didn't want to change the actual configuration of the rig. After testing was complete we experimented by removing hard drives and fans and did have some success, but we weren't willing to remove any hardware just to score a few megahertz.

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maverick knight

Why bother including awesome speakers for the dream machine if there is no awesome sound card?

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Block_Dude

Do real audiophiles even use soundcards? I would assume all of their gear involves off-loading the processing to equipment that costs *way* more than the most expensive "soundcard" on the market.

I personally have a USB headphone amp paired with a Sennheiser 595. I believe a simple setup like this is still better than an analog signal that's subject to high interference coming from a noisy pcb (aka, your motherboard.) I would say minimally use the S/PDIF connection to a receiver so you get a "cleaner" signal.

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Baer

I agree, I have a good external amp and speakers and I can really tell the difference.

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brannank

I loved the new Dream Machine-too rad! Bleeding edge retro awesomeness:)...that being said...
I use a Blu-ray read/write drive to watch my Blu-ray disc collection as well as off loading TV shows I've downloaded to disc. To say optical drives should go the way of the Dodo is just a case of being painfully unaware of how other people use there PCs. Please, stop sounding the death knell for the optical drive-please(OK?)!

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Baer

Once again I agree. I will not put two optical drives in my new build but I will not be without the ability to read or write to or from an optical drive. Our rushing to the cloud for everything is hype.

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codinchen

The next Mac Pro looks like it will just use M.2 (NGFF) PCI-E Flash Storage where the form factor is already here with Haswell on some of the Maximus VI boards from Asus and I bet it will be incorporated on Ivy Bridge-E. Then you need an Ivy Bridge-E Xeon, you have NGFF PCI-E storage, and drop a couple of FirePros in there for workstation graphics and I guarantee you will save a couple grand over the next Mac Pro and have the option of adding more PCI-E cards. As far as Thunderbolt is concerned, when do we get our Thunderbolt thumb drives...

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AFDozerman

Great job with this year's dream machine. Too band windows8 can't be configured to look like 95. That would have been awesome. Either way, I am still wanting to see an SRX build like the 2010 issue with its SR2 and dual Xeons. That beastly thing is what got me hooked on MPC in the first place.

Also, what, no Nvidia Surround? I know there was a 4K eyefinity group set up not long ago with three times the pixes as your setup, so I know it's possible. Was there some kind of bandwith or signal issue with displayport?

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WolvenSpectre

The software for getting around the file in use error/inconvenience the listener was looking for was probably either Unlocker (what I currently use) or FileMon, which Microsoft killed. So now the only other option I know of is FileAssasin from MalwareBytes.

Oh and Gordon, as a proud Canadian I know the square head screwdriver is a Robertson, but to be honest you had it closer than most Non-Canadians do when they try to remember it.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Yeah that was funny

They appear to have 2 Internet computers on the table and couldn't remember the program to use

If only they knew how to type "How to fix File in use error" in Google

The first link would have given them the answer

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Bullwinkle J Moose

How about a 200 watt pico power supply for the cpu and the 1600 watt supply for the Titans on a 20 amp ac circuit?

They will both fit in the case

http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-160-XT

160 watts continuous and 200 watts peak

second question>

Why would Maximum "anything" not have 20 amp circuits in the building?

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Insula Gilliganis

Only had time to listen to the first 25 minutes.. the rest will have to wait until tomorrow.. but these are my thoughts so far..

- 217kbps? That's a new one! Wonder what the next podcast's bit rate will be at since it is never the same! Glad to see the MP3 file finally arrives with proper "documentation" and is no longer seen as "unknown" by my Sansa player.

- MaximumPC should promote the Intern position as "the stepping stone to being Editor-in-Chief at Gizmodo"!

- ALL the "Dream Machines" have actually been built, not just PCPartPicker spec jobs! And there have been 22 Dream Machines built during the past 18 years by boot and MaximumPC.

- About time you all spoke about the Dream Machine since I have had the September issue since July 26 (basically 3 weeks ago). I believe this is the first time that any Dream Machine has been talked about so much during the podcast.. usually it is just mentioned briefly in passing.. I like it!

- Many Dream Machines of the past have had parts that weren't available for general consumption at the moment the rig was presented to the world. Most examples seem to fall under Josh's "bleeding edge, almost available or available but not fully available" criteria..

2000 - 1GHz Intel III (MaxPC actually used overclocked 933MHz PIIIs because the 1GHz models were so rare)

2002 - ATI Radeon 9700 (used before publically available)

2003 - I don't believe the Voodoo "sugar free" cooling was ever readily available

2005 - X-Fi (used before publically available)

2006 - Josh admited when he worked at [H]ardOCP that Intel "probably" cherry picked a very overclockable and cool running Core 2 Extreme X6800 for MaximumPC to use as these weren't yet available to purchase

2007 - The Cosmo case used ended up not being available to buy for a long time after it's Dream Machine unveiling

2008 - The HP Blackbird case was available but super rare plus super expensive so basically almost a "one-off"

- Former EIC George Jones, in the September 2004 issue (pg 3), wrote about the process of how a Dream Machine gets conceived and built.. how the initial discussions start in early April and then end in the June/July rush to get it built and photographed for the September issue

- I wrote in my 2013 Dream Machine prediction forum post (www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=240972) "Have to think that the editors used this April Fool's Day gag from Corsair as inspiration for DM 2013's motif".. guess I was correct! Here is where you can see the Corsair April Fools beige 900D.. www.corsair.com/us/900d-seb

- 21:19 "Off topic" Ha!!