Net Applications Analytics Show Users Still Hanging On to Windows XP

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tehLazyNinja

I haven't had a reason to leave XP yet.

7 is my next stop. Not 8. My laptop is running 7 and I simply don't do enough with PCs to justify the expense. I use mine mainly as a netflix client/tv receiver. That's about it. I don't have time for games and I don't muck around with photos or editing all that much.

What I do, I could do with the latest smartphone or tablet.

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maleficarus™

Then you obviously do not play PC games...

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Cregan89

I predict WinXP usage will start to drop off considerably after April. First off, I have a strong feeling that hackers have been keeping a handful of XP Zero-Days in their back pockets with April 8th marked on their calendars. And after April 8th most developers are going to start to drop XP development support. It will only be a matter of time before Chrome, Firefox, VLC, and every other major application stops developing new versions for XP.

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CaptainFabulous

I wouldn't hold your breath. I expect that AV companies will step up and start offering their own "security packages" that do the job MS is unwilling to do.

Would you rather spend $50 a year to subscribe to Kapersky Security Updates or a few hundred on a new computer you don't want or need?

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maxeeemum

More M$ FUD!

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maxeeemum

LONG LIVE XP!

If M$ doesn't change course soon (Win8) I see Windows 7 and XP dominating the top two OSes for at least the next 2 years.

M$ brought this on themselves!

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Cregan89

Android is projected to overtake WinXP for second most popular OS within 6 months, and iOS within 1 year.

Hence why Windows 8 is what it is...

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maxeeemum

You heard it here first folks!

Haven't heard from you lately. Looks like you're still smoking crack.

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D3LTA9

After using the consumer preview of 8 on my laptop for all of a day or so I uninstalled it and went back to 7 swearing I would never move to 8 unless it was changed substantially and didnt feel like I was using Windows phone on my PC.

I now have 8 (not by choice) on my Samsung ATIV 9 plus and while I will never put it on my gaming rig I do actually find myself thinking "ha thats kinda cool I guess" with some features using the touch screen interface. I run classic shell to get most of my start menu functionality back but even so I still find myself cursing it out (sometimes quite frequently) because I cant find something or it takes more time then it should to navigate/access what I want.

So yeah I guess my point is that I realise MS did need to innovate in some way and what they have done is not all bad I just think maybe a split option between a metro tablet style OS and a more traditional style desktop OS may have been better and leave it to the end user to decide on what they want for their particular system(s) - I guess that would run into fragmentation issues down the line though...

EDIT - I dont know if it is just me but the last time I had to work with XP was when I was trying to get network access to my CNC machine box, what a hassle that was, XP really didnt want to play ball with the rest of my network!

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JosephColt

If you run classic shell or Start8 how can you not find anything?

It's as if you are using Windows 7...

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Microsoft wouldn't know innovation if it painted itself purple and danced naked on the boardroom table.

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RICHARD RIDDICK

My friend just bought a brand new laptop and it had windows 8 on it, she used it for a few hours hated it and had me put windows 7 on it

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Mikey109105

Of course they aren't upgrading to Windows 8, it's a mobile OS. They only just recently started to give desktop users what they wanted, so why should anyone upgrade to it? MS has never listened to their consumers, so why would they start now?

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vrmlbasic

If the Windows 7 hotkeys could be added easily to XP then I could almost go back to it. I'd do that before I'd make the jump to Windows 8.

Maybe-just maybe-I'd consider upgrading if Microsoft would finally make its software AMD-aware. Two threads that access the same resources were supposed to be scheduled on the same module in Bulldozer in order to get maximum performance from the architecture but if that has ever happened in Windows it has only happened by chance :(

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LatiosXT

While AV protection in WinXP makes up for its weaker security, it's still not a perfect solution. Especially since I feel like a lot of what we were told to look out for last decade isn't a commonly used tactic anymore.

But I do recall in 2007 or 2008 there was a zero-day virus that affected Windows 2000 and XP but could not affect Windows Vista because UAC would stop it.

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NavarWynn

There's simply no good reason to 'upgrade' to Win8 on a 5+ year old machine.

People spout about security, but the vast majority of XP users use 3rd party applications for that, and so they don't see a 'risk' (especially since their AV works adequately).

No user who has to give up a) the hardware they like, b) the software they love, and c) the interface they have been using for a decade+, is going to say thank you. Sure, only c) is directly MS's fault ( a and b would happen regardless), but since the interface is how you deal with your computer, it's kind of like going to work one day, and finding out you are going to have to do all your business in German, or you are getting canned. Might as well blame your shitty love life (a), and inability to do what you love (b), on that too.

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Renegade Knight

Agreed. If it works. It's not broken. The XP generation of computers was the first where the lifespan wasn't cut short by progress. They still do the job for most people.

However those same folks aren't going to upgrade to 7 either.

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CaptainFabulous

This. Why would I spend $200 ($100 for the OS, another $100 for hardware upgrades) on a 5+ year old machine that's not worth it and runs fine just the way it is?

If Microsoft wants us to ditch XP and start using Windows 8.1 on these machines then they need to give us a dirt-cheap upgrade path (like Apple) and have a version or mode of 8.1 that's designed for and runs well on old hardware.

And even then there will still be a lot of machines that will stay with XP because it simply works. You don't fix what ain't broke.

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JosephColt

No one said you need to upgrade to Windows 8 really, if you're getting or building a new PC then get Windows 8 at that point.

Windows 8 runs on older hardware very well.

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CaptainFabulous

At a cost of $120 for it + the upgrade time + getting used to a new system. Also doesn't factor in any older hardware devices for which there are no Win 7/8 drivers, so they all need to be replaced at an additional cost.

And we're not talking about a new machine, we're talking about what's gonna happen to all the existing machines running XP once MS stops supporting and patching the OS. In most cases trying to update these machines is not feasible, and most people are simply going to continue using them as-is.

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LatiosXT

The problem here is Apple is a hardware company that just happens to make software. Microsoft is a software company. Plus they volume license a lot to businesses and OEMs for cheap (something like $30 a license, but this could be a POOMA), with some channels allowing you to get an OS for free (I was a member of IEEE, and that was one of the perks).

Which leaves you with the smaller portion of people who buy the OS outright.

Also OS X Mavericks system requirements, aside from hard drive space, is higher than Windows. The vanilla version runs on an Atom processor, unlike Windows 7 that had the awful "Starter" edition.

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CaptainFabulous

We're not talking about tech-savvy people. We're talking about everyday run-of-the-mill people who have a desktop that's maybe 5+ years old running XP that does everything they need it to do and have no interest or desire to spend a minimum of $120 (the cost of the OS) to update it.

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pastorbob

No problem here. Between home and work I'm running Windows 8.1 Pro on four systems and Windows 7 Pro on three. Networking and remote access is a breeze to set up and they all talk to each other very well. Moved totally away from XP when 7 came out.

When I build a new system it will have the latest iteration of Windows on it whatever that is at the time.

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Ninjawithagun

I HATE XP with a passion. Sluggish crap OS that required a fresh install every 12-18 months. Too many limitations to make a list of, but trust me - good riddance to XP! I upgraded to Windows 7 a few years ago and was very happy. Then I decided to give Windows 8 a try last year and LOVED IT! I will tell you now that I am NOT your average run-of-the-mill customer/user and have a lot of experience with Windows operating systems. I learn operating systems very fast and don't provide early judements on any operating system until I've had a chance to test it out for months (not days). I can tell you now that Windows 8.1 Pro is by far the best operating system that I have worked with from Microsoft. And it is just fast in everything. I don't even mind the Start screen. A lot of folks complain about it, but it's there if you want to use it and is not required to access at all if you decide the desktop is your desired interface screen. I won't say Windows 8.1 is the best OS, because that kind of opinion should be based upon the user's needs. For my needs, Windows 8.1 Pro is the answer.

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Baer

While I do not hate Xp, it was great a decade ago. I have not used it in years. I do like Win 8.1 however, I have organized the start screen, I boot to the desktop, I have pined my most commonly used programs to the task bar and I have no issues. It is fast and has some great features. No issues with 8.1 here.

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johnnytrek1701

Had Xp for several years and was happy with it but I bought a newer pc recently and it came with Windows 7 home premium (installation disk) and that works well for me. Most of the games I play work fine with it so I have no need to upgrade.

If Microsoft would have given customers the choice between the old (Xp or 7) interface instead of shoving the new "tile" interface down our throats, I'm sure a lot more people would have upgraded.

But that's only my opinion I guess.

Keep up the good work Maximum pc people...love reading your magazine!

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majorsuave

Updated all my XP machines to either Win 8, Win 7 or Lubuntu.

Lubuntu is the LXDE version of Ubuntu and is rather easy on systems to slow for Windows (either XP SP3, Vista, 7 or 8) read circa 2004 single core laptops with 512MB of RAM.

I am thinking about taking all of my Win 7 machines to Win 8 Pro. Basically, for those who do not have Win 8 yet, it is Win 7 with better performance and an optional alternate start screen. You can install Classic Shell to keep using a start menu and booting directly to the desktop.

I try not to touch XP with a stick now if I have a choice.

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Renegade Knight

That's been my experience. Better OS than 7. Start screen is better than start bar. It only improves with a touch screen.,

My wife was my guinea pig. I got her a touch screen laptop with 7 and bought and 8 upgrade. For the first few months she only used the mouse. However she did start using touch and now doesn't even think about it. She uses touch, mouse, keyboard or whatever as is best for what she's doing.

She still misses her Mac but if I swapped back I bet she would miss touch.

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gmvolk

Actually going to be getting two XP systems setup soon. One will be for my kids laptop that currently has crappy Vista on it. They are going to use it for school work, LibreOffice, and for games like Morrowind.

The second pc is going to be for work. It won't be connected to the internet so I've got no worries about security. It's going to be used strictly to test the products we sell.

Why XP, in both cases because I have it lying around and it will work. I'd go Win 7 if I had those, from the support I've had to give for people with 8 I would never touch it again.

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misterz100

For the kids laptop did you consider Linux?

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Xenux

For the most part I would have to agree that a linux distro like Linux Mint would be perfect for that scenario BUT he did say one of the laptops was going to run older games like Morrowind which may or may not run smoothly witih wine depending on wine version used and IGP driver. Trust me I've used Linux exclusively in the past but for gaming of any type even though WINE can be a viable solution depending on the game I still recommend Windows.
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3383

^^^^^Notes on Morrowind for Wine^^^^^^^^

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eastbayrae

XP, lol. Do they still have analog cell phones too?

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

XP was a great operating system, albeit a little less easy to customize than I'd like (remember Windows 98 SE?). Windows 7 has the memory access, fancy desktop, and sexy performance, while reducing the customization experience even further (hidden Start Menu, etc.). With Windows 8, Microsoft abandons user customization in favor of their "one experience" sales pitch, which would have been fine, had the "one experience" not been that of a poorly-selling smart phone.

I have XP machines and will have them for many years. They all work fine, thank you very much. I have Windows 7 machines and will likely have them for years. We have no Windows 8 machines, nor will we ever.

Microsoft has itself in knots, wishing they could remotely trash every XP and Windows 7 machine on the planet.

If they want to sell new operating systems, they would do well by designing less suck into them. Maybe let Design & Engineering do its job, while the salesmen hide in their office doing their little white lines?

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d3v

Badly written. "fairly written" is used twice within the first few sentences. Then there are sentences that include stuff like "the many times Windows has reached out to PC owners that they need to upgrade" and "means Windows is concerned both for users who are either reluctant to change". I guess she means Microsoft?

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Frustrated, angry, unpublished wannabe writer much?

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legionera

Attention whore, much

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misterz100

People aren't upgrading because most folks etc don't need a new PC till theirs dies, there isn't a single person that knows XP is at its end of life all they know is: turn on PC, open internet explorer "see internet works, I'm fine"

Out of those 32% I bet only 5% or less are crazy die hard XP fans.

Honestly building PCs for so long windows 7 always had the best positive response and stability. Not ready for windows 8.1 yet my dad has it and he has issues with allot of games on a PC that really should not. If anything I'll "downgrade" him to Win 7 he only has 8 because it was 40$ for the pro version upgrade at the time.

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Renegade Knight

They are fine. End of life means MS isn't going to support it. Not that it's going to quit working like it does and should.

Most of the time I find MS doesn't really support anything.

I've not had any problem with any game that would work on 7. Games that last worked on XP or before I already had problems with.

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ohsnaps1104

I've met a lot of people like that, they check their connection and assume their pc is perfectly fine. I also met a lot of people who won't upgrade from XP to anything else because they're "scared to learn something new".

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misterz100

Like don't get me wrong XP was awesome after SP2 but seriously you can't just keep patching things to keep up with times, even AMD3+ boards need an upgrade every once and a while.

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HockeytownWax

Switched from McAfee to Kaspersky way back when the CIH95 virus was brand new and haven't had a single infection since so it matters not which OS you use. XP is just fine with the right added protection.

Microsoft can take their beta software (win8) that they insist on charging us for and shove it right back up their asses ... cuz thats where they pulled it out of in the first place.

I still run XP on my main workstation and file server and will continue to do so until driver issues arise. I have Win7 on my HTPC and can't stand it when I end up with all of these thumbs.db files all over my file server.

One of these days I'll trudge through win7's registry and turn off the database file creation ... other than that its not too bad.

Obviously no ... I'm not "digging" the latest OS ... and please stop trying to be "hip" by over-using words like "digging". Its phony and unprofessional.

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legionera

Keeping the malware pool alive with the XP network. Then a bunch of inexperienced start yelling that they get viruses all the time.