NeoCitiesThrottles FCC Down to 28.8Kbps in Opposition of Proposed Net Neutrality Rules

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glpeter90

Gee. I wonder who appointed this POS. Name kind of escapes me right now, but I will think of it.

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bpstone

Time to play. ;D

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Nixon

"The Ferengi Plan"

Hehehe, just like a Ferengi. :)

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MAIZE1951

Umm, it might not be to wise to mess with the feds.

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yammerpickle2

It would be nice if this spread to other and throttled not only the FCC, but all their employees too. I think 28.8K is too high how about 2.4k old school! I mean regulation is just text and 2.4k is plenty for text right.

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bensen408

You guys are too nice.

Throttle them down to 300 baud. Suddenly your FAX machine is lightning quick again!

Welcome to PopNet.

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MaximumMike

2600 baud would be most appropriate in my opinion.

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phroderick

To be effective, they need to throttle down the commissioners' personal connection speeds to the extent that they can. I suspect most of them don't care about either the government's effectiveness nor the impact on the public at large.

I fully expect that this comment will place me on the NSA monitoring list.

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MrHasselblad

Hate to break the bad news to you, but...

1. For some unknown reason the NSA already can live monitor any communication in america, and routinely does just that.
2. The NSA logs literally everything, on every adult american.

Yet for some reason, the NSA seems to have missed items such as...

1. Boston
2. London bus incident
3.6x other attacks on infrastructure
4. 9/11 (not just once, but all four times)
5. Benghazi
6. The first WTC incident

...And 20++ other incidents

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whiznot

In addition violent international drug cartels operate with impunity. Spying by the NSA is not used to protect the public from external threats. The true purpose is to protect those in power from their victims, average citizens.

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MrHasselblad

Well stated, and one hundred percent accurate.

It should also be noted, one would not believe the volumes of data that the NSA has - more data in one agency than most people even know about themselves.

They are even financial number crunchers. Only a matter of time before NSA elects to share some of those financial numbers with agencies such as the IRS; as it would triple the number of IRS cases - overnight.

But then again it would also literally prove how many american companies (also individuals) are investing their money overseas. Makes one wonder for what reasons??

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Bullwinkle J Moose

What made you think you were the only person not already on the list?

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phroderick

Agreed, pretty much everyone is getting monitored. It's a question of who they pay attention to.

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MrHasselblad

Who they pay attention to??

Literally every adult american.

Because every adult american has...

1. Most likely had their LIVE conversation intercepted at one point or another, especially if one ever happens to go outside of the countries border. Naturally this "so called" level extends to every person inside of the country borders.
2. Every person has a file. The size of that file is staggering. It is also time indexed. Find me one adult american who doe snot have at least one red flag in those files. Did I that even peaceful protest (as protected by federal law) is enough to get one red flagged in a major way?

So they pay attention to literally every adult american; even ones whom have never broken any laws at all - or even people who have a risk factor of zero. The conclusion; what has become the police state of america, a version far worse than the book 1984. Russia and North Korea could only dream of having a system such as the NSA

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mbrine11

The real cost of gaming:
System
Game
Subscription
Data package

*Sorry for the double post...

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mbrine11

The real cost of onlining gaming will now be system, subscription, and data package.

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jbitzer

While I agree with this, Who the hell is neocities? This is just advertising for them

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Renegade Knight

Since the FCC came out in opposition of a two tiered internet plan that would have fast lanes. This guy seems to be proving the FCCs point by doing exactly what the FCC doesn't want to see happen.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

How hard was it to Google> FCC Promotes 2 tiered Internet Plan?

http://www.techlicious.com/blog/amazon-facebook-net-neutrality-fcc-letter/

FCC wants to see it happen !

Say, is that a Comcast/FCC kickback I smell?

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Bullwinkle J Moose

HOWEVER....

This topic began it's portrayal in the media as comcast dropping packets and slowing down netflix traffic to end users

If NETFLIX provides it's data to the comcast network at speeds fast enough that comcast "should" be able to distibute that data to it's end users at speeds which the end users paid for, then the problem is with comcast

Certain media outlets are now portraying Netfix as the problem by not providing the backbone delivery systems to the comcast network with the proper bandwidth and/or not willing to pay comcast the costs needed to deliver it's content at the proper speeds

The news outlets need to identify correctly if netfix is delivering its content to comcast at the proper speed it is paying Comcast to deliver that content to the end users at

If the new's outlets keep changing their story as to who caused the problem without finding where exactly the problem lies, then I arguing either side of this debate is pointless!

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vrmlbasic

So, what about the nugget of truth that is in Comcast's argument about the costs that they incur to build special hardware to handle Netflix's tidal wave of data?

No matter what happens, we'll be the ones footing the bill for that. Netflix tried to hand-wave that cost away and it didn't fly and it came to this :(

Even if the quasi-NN status quo were to be maintained, what would stop Comcast from asserting its right to throttle data on the lines that it built w/o tax $, like the lines from their hardware to your router?

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germanogre

"the costs that they incur to build special hardware to handle Netflix's tidal wave of data?"

Part of the $45,000,000,000 buyout of their competition. That's where their "infrastructure upgrade money" went.

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Renegade Knight

Netflix pays their ISP for data. I pay my ISP for data. Comcast's Netflix watching customers pay Comcast for data. The tidal wave is coming from their own customers.

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vrmlbasic

The wave is obviously coming from Netflix -> Comcast. The Netflixers who, out of masochism or desperation, use Netflix via Comcast created the wave but their requests for video are surely inconsequential vs the massive data wave that netflix is sending in response.

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jbitzer

I pay comcast for fucking access. If they can't project their costs accurately to keep up with me using what I paid for, it's their problem, not mine, and not netflix.

They knew if they raised their rates, people would be furious and maybe demand their monopolies be broken up. Instead they extorted netflix like a mafia protection scheme.

Fuck comcast.

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Xenite

It's complete bullshit, Netflix even offered to PAY for new hardware and the cost of improving the infrastructure for Comcast.

Comcast rejected the offer.

This is a money grab pure and simple.

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vrmlbasic

Without stipulation? Didn't think so.

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ram1220

So happy to see this. I hope the concept expands and is noticed!!

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Slugbait

Five years ago, the FCC allowed cable companies to scramble Extended Basic channels. To continue watching ESPN, Comedy Central, etc, I would have to pony up another $9 per month - PER TELEVISION - and increasing my cable bill by 40%. And the descramblers would not allow me to use my HTPC to record any more. If I want an inferior DVR, the cost would go up further to $16 per month, per television.

So instead, I canceled Extended Basic and reduced Comcast's income by $25 per month from my household. I'll get by with watching just the broadcast networks and local independents, right?

Then last year the FCC allowed cable companies to scramble the Limited Basic channels, and Comcast executed that just one week before the NFL Pre-season games began.

So I bought an antenna.

For all the hate I have for Comcast, I hate the FCC even more for being their enablers. Stick it to 'em, NeoCities.

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dgrmouse

Slugbait said, "Then last year the FCC allowed cable companies to scramble the Limited Basic channels"

I don't any longer live in an area served by cable, so I guess this one slipped by my radar. I checked it out, and you're right. "The FCC reversed its decision under pressure from Comcast and other providers", says the Wiki page for QAM (television). Man, that's a rip. The level of corruption in the US government is disgusting.

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The Mac

i have one work for you: MOCUR

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Slugbait

Is MOCUR gonna cost me any money? Yeah, I thought so...

I pay Comcast, or I pay Ceton. Or, I pay them both, plus rental fees on all but one cableCARD. Any way you look at it, I pay thru the nose. The antenna only cost me a hundred bucks, and it feeds all of my machines...I don't have to buy an antenna for each one.

Besides, an antenna gives me a less-compressed video signal, and vastly less-compressed audio signal.

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The Mac

True. but i dont mind giving my money to people like Ceton or Silicon Dust, or Hauppauge, if it means i can STOP giving money (or reduce anyway) the money i give to Comcast.

As a side effect i get to learn about MOCUR, and how cable tech works...

It is unbelievable the amount knowledge ive gained by creating my own 12 tuner DVR box that allows me to consume any content(media center) whenever, and however i want.

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dorkish

only one thing would be better throttling comcast and AT&T websites :)

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Neufeldt2002

The question is though, how will this affect the FCC? The code only affects the main Domain page not anything else, not even the webpages being hosted on Neocities.org are throttled, and how often does the FCC visit said page? My guess, not that much or that often, if at all.

The real power that this has is the potential, but others have to use the code to make it effective, otherwise nothing will happen.

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The Mac

no, but the FCC will certainly hear about it, which is the point.

I do like the "Ferengi Plan" however...

lol

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yu119995

I believe the phrase is "shit just got real".

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vkt62

More like Shit hit the Fan

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USraging

EPIC! About time someone stood up.

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vrmlbasic

Argue for net neutrality by being as anti-NN as possible, executing an extreme case of what no NN could result in. This attack of theirs seems pretty puerile.

Would it be as "epic" if ISPs started throttling connection speed to dial-up for other websites in order to prove a point? I mean, Amazon.com has a lot of weight to throw around, so we should throttle them to inspire them to fully commit to the fight. Same goes for the iTunes website. It is only a logical baby step away from what this company is doing to the FCC.

Going further down the rabbit hole: Since Comcast is anti-NN how about all other internet providers throttle all requests from Comcast to dial-up speeds? Those saps paying for Comcast's ISP service are just enabling them and they need to see the error of their ways!

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jbitzer

Are you just stupid? They are doing what the FCC will be allowing if they get rid of NN. Yeah, let's get rid of it so people CAN do the exact bullshit you're talking in paragraph 2. It's NN that will keep them from doing it, when comcast inks a deal with Walmart, they can throttle amazon traffic now and no one can do anything because they no longer have to treat all data the same.

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DoctorX

omg... this is awesome.