Microsoft's Update to Windows 8.1 May Boot Directly to Desktop by Default

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Granite

LOL!!

You just don't get it, do you? Or do you enjoy insulting yourself?

They haven't gotten rid of anything...and they won't. Just giving more unnecessary options for those like you who can't (or won't) figure it out.

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JosephColt

Not even true in the slightest, go to any tech forum and people will criticize it on all ends of the spectrum. It's just to restrictive in design right now.

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John Pombrio

Huh? I regularly attend several Win8 specific forums (I was a beta tester from day one) and that are two issues that still need to be resolved for some users. Overall, pretty much everyone admires how much better Win8/8.1 desktop is over Win7. Very little talk about Start screen anymore as no one uses it.

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JosephColt

Yes, the operating system is great on a technical stand point, but I'm not talking about that.

Every kind of person criticizes the start menu, not because they cannot bypass it, but because it's terrible and restrictive in design.

"Very little talk about Start screen anymore as no one uses it."

You just reinforced my last comment. Almost every kind of person criticizes, and does not use the metro.

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majorsuave

But I have been booting up to the Desktop all along. Thanks to Classic Shell. (classicshell dot net for curious types)

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John Pombrio

I have been using Start8. Both are sweet little programs.

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dbqfan

Will make no difference to me what Microsoft does to Win8. I keep using Win7 until the support stops then I will switch to another OS. Apple is a no go for me as none of my software that I use for work will run on an Apple. When will Apple wake up and join the rest of the computing world? Apple is stuck on selling phones and tablets. I think that Microsoft really made a big mistake with Win8 - trying to make us use a tablet like interface on a desktop.

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LatiosXT

So why not save the trouble and switch to Linux now?

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JosephColt

And how will that help him, that will be worse for him software compatibility wise.

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LatiosXT

If the poster is dead serious about dropping Windows after 7 has no support, then it's better to just get it over with and jump OSes rather than linger around.

And Linux has plenty of software alternatives, assuming you aren't gaming. And even if you are, Steam is picking up... well... steam.

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JosephColt

"Steam is picking up... well... steam."

:D

Yea, there are a lot of good alternatives, but a professional will always be using Windows or Mac; hopefully though one day that will change.

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Hey.That_Dude

Professional servers have run Linux/Unix for quite some time...

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JosephColt

That's not really what I meant by professionals actually. I mean people such as content creators or game developers cannot use linux as an example.

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Neufeldt2002

Most movies are made on Linux server farms. So your statement is false.

"Disney/Pixar, DreamWorks Animation, Sony, ILM and other movie production studios from Hollywood are using Linux to produce their movies. I bet not many of you knew this (I didn't until today) but practically every blockbuster movie you see in theaters today was created with Linux. Hollywood prefers to use Linux instead of other operating systems, like Windows or Macintosh, for three simple reasons: it's better, faster and cheaper."

Taken from http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hollywood-Loves-Linux-45571.shtml

Google it if you don't believe me.

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JosephColt

Hm, I'm not actually surprised they are using Linux. Those large movies require a massive amount of resources to render.

A Pixar movie can take months to even render all those frames if I remember correctly, and you need a large budget for that.

Most common day professionals I see use Windows or Mac though for things like photography, animation, web design, or architecture. I don't often see companies that run Linux as a primary system except the very large ones.

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Hey.That_Dude

The has more to do with the fact that they were never trained in Linux and less to do with the fact that Linux can't be used for professional duties. You can thank your schools for that.

I've always said that schools were retarded. I was trained on a Windows PC all through school. The reason being that "It's what I'd use in the real world." This has mostly been a lie. I've needed to become acquainted quite heavily with command line in Linux.
The other thing I don't get is the other reason they would always give. "Windows discounts it's software for us because we are a learning institution." LINUX IS FREE... forever... for everyone... forrizzle... (I do have to break things down to the most basic of words for people, as well as throw in some new, hip terms/buzz words)

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JosephColt

That's very true that people are not trained in Linux. I don't think it's a schools problem to do that though unless your a tech school teaching people to get certified tech degree.

When they said it's what you'd use in the real world, well, they probably assumed your just like the other 90% of the population who does not need to know how.

Linux is free, but still...

Almost any idiot can install Windows and any software application without any effort. With Linux if you want to do anything more than checking your email or browsing you have to know how to use a computer to a much higher degree, despite it still being fairly straight forward; it's not as time efficient. Don't forget Microsoft is a business and has to make profits too.

People hate on Windows to much, I think there is a place for it and Linux together(no comment on OS X). I would truly not want to deal with that average person constantly asking how to do something in Linux.

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Hey.That_Dude

I started out like one of those joe shmos. There is a very active community that is happy to answer, or already has answered, any question I had. Learning curve was 3 days. Where as I still can't find anything on those darn ribbon interfaces.

Also the point I was making is that there no good reason why a school shouldn't expose their students to different operating systems. Especially when two of the other three are free (Linux and Unix).

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Random

Hallelujah, sweet baby JESUS.... has Microsoft FINALLY decided to listen to their customers??? The ability to easily disable Metro should have been an option since DAY ONE. I can't believe it took them this long to see the light.

Although I'll only believe it when I see it. I'm glad to hear they may finally come to their senses with Windows8. That is giving PC users the option to send Metro to the garbage can where it belongs without having to download and install third party tools!

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edchombeau

I didn;t read that the tiles would go away and we would get a list of apps/programs back on the desktop??

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ajnewman

As Churchill once said, Americans always get it right in the end, after trying all the wrong ways first.

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LatiosXT

Much like themselves (the LA85 comes to mind.)

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iheartpcs

I wonder if it will also be a 4GB download and take 8 hours to install...

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devin3627

nobody rides bikes anymore, we all ride scooters. windows 8 is fad.