Microsoft's Update to Windows 8.1 May Boot Directly to Desktop by Default

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tonyblaze

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dbqfan

Get rid of Metro all together. Win8 needs a total restart but Microsoft will never admit its mistakes. Microsoft will keep forcing this on us - just like obama care.

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SmaugTheDragon

There are still a lot of things wrong with win8:

1.Stop trying to shoehorn Skydrive into everything

2.New office is in no way a improvement

3.Get rid of the "app store", completely stupid moneygrubbing with it's 25% tax.

4.Completely remove the Metro/Modern/Charms bloat

5.Stop hiding advanced features, this extensive hand-holding will train a generation of super incompetent users, god even Apple thinks better of their users.

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John Pombrio

I donno if this is going to help much. It is really jarring to suddenly be thrown into the Start menu apps and then back into the desktop as they act so differently than one another. If the default extensions still point to a app, this will be constantly happening. Yes, the ability to window the app and to close it via the X in the corner will help. Still, the only real way to have any sort of menu driven Windows experience will be to jump back into the Start Menu screen, right back where we started.
"Well, we are back in the car again..." "But we are out of the tree!"

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Now you're towing the company line, as if the Start menu was the problem all along.

There's a reason why wheels are still round, John.

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maxeeemum

Update 1 is just another marketing tweak by M$. A last ditch attempt to get XP users and other uninformed people to switch over to Win8. M$ is still trying to sell this bad idea unfortunately.

But Windows 8 will never pass XP for the #2 spot.

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legionera

Operating systems don't have legs dummy! They can't play card games either

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maxeeemum

What??? You need help!

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legionera

Help me then

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carlos28355

"I have to press a button to log into the desktop mode" oh cry me a river that's not a good reason to get all bent out of shape about an operating system...Viva Windows 8/8.1

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Blues22475

Then let me give you a couple:

1. Having Safe Mode. To access it, you have to be able to boot into normal mode and using msconfig and enable it from there. This becomes a problem if your system does not boot normally and you have to use the install media. Using a command in command line to force safe mode to boot as opposed to spamming F8.

2. Cracking passwords. More annoying if a customer has forgotten wtf their password is. Also, the aforementioned is assuming they made a local password. I assume it's much easier if you have created your account with a Microsoft account online.

3. The "refresh" feature is kind of useless. Thus a waste of time. Wound up just wiping the system and reloading from scratch (doing virus scans and the whole "nine" prior to the refresh).

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HockeytownWax

There is only one real way to look at the situation ...

Win8 is a giant piece of beta software for win9 just as Vista was for Win7

Takes balls (and lots of stockholders) to release software knowing it has a lot bugs to be fixed, and charge money for it.

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maxeeemum

Hey HockeytownWax (great name);

Meet "Granite" he's a Microsoft Employee Wannabe who is the unofficial defender of the undefendable (Windows 8). I usually just ignore him. I agree with what you say. Win8 is just one big bug that needs fixing.

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legionera

You are bashing W8 since it's release but you've never said anything about a 'beta feel'. You said that you would never buy it or install it on your machines. Where does that experience come from?

Oh, let me guess! YOU LIE!

Sucking on other's comments eh? You reached that low, eh?

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maxeeemum

You're a real idiot! Flamer!

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legionera

Gotcha liar!

PEOPLE, DON'T TRUST THIS GUY! HE IS A LIAR!

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maxeeemum

And you wonder why there are so many in the "Hate on Legionera Club"! Most of what you say makes no sense what so ever!

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legionera

LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR * ∞

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Granite

Win8 had bugs? I didn't see any.

I did see a lot of whining and crying from people who didn't like the Start screen...but the Start screen isn't a bug. It's a feature.

Win8.1 didn't really fix any bug, either. It made adjustments, upgrades...and, of course, tried to address the whining and crying. It didn't help. People are still whining and crying.

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HockeytownWax

Vista had the features we wanted but hardware drivers were either buggy or non-existant.

Win8 is stable due to decent driver support but the features aren't there.

Either way, Microsoft has to scramble to 'fix' what shouldn't have been broken in the first place.

Not sure who the evil genius was that thought it was a good idea to integrate a mobile OS into a desktop OS and make the mobile features the default features but I'm sure the poor sales have sent a message and the putz is fired by now.

I don't use my desktop PC like a phone, nor do I use my phone like a desktop PC. Why should the OS's have identical features and functionality ??

If this was Microsoft's way of forcing us to use our desktop PC differently ... sorry dude ... ain't gunna happen.

Cranking out a 'new' OS every 3 years just to generate revenue and keep the stockholders happy should be considered fraud ... especially when win8 is the end product.

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legionera

"If this was Microsoft's way of forcing us to use our desktop PC differently ... sorry dude ... ain't gunna happen"

You must feel the same forced way passing by the tampons in your supermarket. That forced urge to stick more and more of them in your ass enforced by the greedy cashiers waiting to take your money.

What forced world we live in...

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Granite

So why are you telling me all this? I was talking about bugs.

Look, all you have to say is that you don't like Win8 and be done with it...instead of whining about the direction MS has taken.

You don't like that direction...then don't use it. Your choice.

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Fray

The whining and crying, added to Windows 8's low sales figures and abysmal word of mouth, is working.

It is called consumer activism.

It's pretty obvious that Microsoft was hoping to move towards a walled garden in which they would data mine everything, have you buy 'apps' from the Microsoft Store, and get your eyeballs glued to screen-filling advertisements.

They have lost all the good will they had with me. I don't want the ribbon in office, I don't want the retarded looking Metro screen, I don't want any Microsoft 'apps,' I don't want to live in their walled garden.

I used to love buying a new version of Windows. Now I'm looking to jump ship.

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Cregan89

I know you guys think you know everything, but with Apple's "walled garden", iOS users are installing far more applications on average, and developers are making far more profits than they ever have on open platforms like Linux and pre-Win8. To reiterate, in Apple's walled garden, the users are happier, and the developers are happier... Just sayin...

You guys also probably spend hundreds of dollars a year on Steam's walled garden, I've never understood how people on MaxPC don't realize the hypocrisy of Steam vs Win8 Store...

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maxeeemum

@Cregan89

This has got to be the most idiotic comment you've ever posted!

You're a developer!!!!

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legionera

There are always other options out there buddy. For example a suicide.

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maxeeemum

@Fray

Well said!

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Granite

Ahhh...yes...the old "walled garden" whine.

LOL!!

shrug...I'm not a programmer, but last time I checked my wallet I didn't see any payment going to MS for any software that I've bought and run on Win8. Seems to me you are letting unfounded rumors rule your behavior.

But hey, to each his own, eh? You can have fun with your whining and crying while I move on with an OS that just plain works. Unlike you, though, I don't think it's very smart to walk a plank.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

The Ribbon.

Again, another salesman (yes, a "woman" in this case) plays designer. And fucks up a good product. Anyone who has actually used a computer in the last ten years knows that screens aren't getting taller, they're getting wider. Why would you add a bloated menu set that steals 15% of your visible workspace along the vertical axis—which was already shrinking to begin with?

Again, you have to be a coke-fueled sales ape with your head up your ass and knees firmly on the ground to come up with this level of bad design.

The sales force at Microsoft is doing a great job running the company. Into the ground.

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legionera

Again, another talking about something he had never experienced, giving you 'a professional opinion'.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Again, a M$ intern tasked with trolling forums and fetching Starbucks....

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legionera

Where?

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HockeytownWax

completely agree.
The ribbon can bite my shiny metal ass.

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Cregan89

We actually did an analysis on the Ribbon UI in a software engineering UI course, and neglecting the issue of user perception, the Ribbon UI is quantitatively more efficient than the previous UI's in Office and Windows.

Here's an article which comes to a similar conclusion that we did:
http://www.7tutorials.com/windows-8-analysis-new-ribbon-interface-more-efficient

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maxeeemum

Microsoft did a survey of those who liked Windows 8 at Redmond. 99% said they loved it!

LOL!

Cregan89 you are such an idiot!

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beatyas

"Microsoft's also been taking into account data that suggests most desktop users still use a keyboard and mouse."

I think what they're waiting for is that 'killer app' scenario that makes the keyboard/mouse combo of input devices harder to use than 'the next new thing', akin to what Xerox did with the mouse in the early 70's.

In other news... A team of overpaid PHDs at a large multi-billion-dollar research company has released ground breaking scientific evidence indicating that "water is wet."

(I know, someone else quoted it, but I was feeling snarky...)

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Well, there's a reason why wheels are still round.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

"Microsoft's also been taking into account data that suggests most desktop users still use a keyboard and mouse." They need "data" to "suggest" that? Or were you being facetious? I hope you were being facetious. OMG.

Even if they were to render Metro completely optional and return the traditional Start menu, there would not be a single compelling reason to upgrade from version 7. Boot times? Who gives a shit? Seven seconds or fifteen seconds, oh, here's two hundred dollars....Is that how you spell "moron?"

Windows 8 and Metro have been Microsoft's exploitative little foray into customer domination and control. Instead of baby steps, they need to turn the Titanic around 180° and embrace customization and respect for the customer's needs, rather than the board's misguided dreams of planetary conquest.

Nothing M$ can do would ever bring me to consider any Windows 8 device. If they ever manage to pull their heads out of their asses, maybe I'll consider Windows 9.

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Granite

I'm guessing you aren't looking for a job developing new products for anyone. Good thing, too. The only thing your head-in-the-sand mentality would do is stagnate a company.

In any case, you don't mind if I think you are spouting BS about considering Win9. We all know you never will. It's Microsoft, after all.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

I'm not servile like you, mindlessly heaping praise upon others' bad decisions, hoping it will help me get ahead. It is simply not in my character to be an obsequious, knee-based Yes Man. But the role seems to suit you well.

So, good luck with that.

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Ghost XFX

Orly?

I guess baby steps is the new beginning for W8, huh MS?

Too bad W7 was done right from the moment it hit the shelves...

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Hey.That_Dude

Sounds like a good idea on M$'s part.

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RandomInt

Awesome news for people who don't know this has been possible since the initial release of Windows 8.0.

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John Pombrio

I always maintained that the biggest critics of the Win8 Start screen were the ones that did not know how to bypass it, heh. The NEXT thing they will have to learn is to pick a default program for music and pictures that is for the desktop, not for the Start screen.

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Cregan89

Everybody needs to take it easy on John. God forbid the guy doesn't just outright refuse to use an entire OS because he doesn't agree with a couple design decisions. He tried it out, politely made his disagreements with the design known, made some adjustments to get around those design issues, and now he enjoys all the positives of Windows 8 without any of the negatives. That's what being a tech enthusiast is all about. The Maxeeemum's and Rusensisdfkjstool's on MaxPC could learn a thing or two from this guy.

Keep up the comments John. The people who actually appreciate the insight and the tips are always going to be quieter than the loud and ignorant people.

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maxeeemum

@Cregan89

If John and others like you go where John went then you will get what you deserve. I took it easy on him this time. He better not go there again!

If you sink to bottom of the barrel then .............. As for you you're already there.

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maxeeemum

John for someone who thinks he is so intellectually superior that is a really dumb statement. I'd expect that from a little kid! But I guess it is desperate times in the M$ camp. Heh!

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Random

This is the typical response from microsoft and their adoring fans; insult the user base instead of admitting failure and actually fixing the issue.

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Granite

Seems to me there is a significant portion of the Windows user base who insult themselves every time they open their mouths to complain about some little thing that they can't figure out how to handle.

Anyway, John is correct. It was possible to default to the desktop when starting up Win8.0. Win8.1 just gave a nice little setting for those who couldn't figure out how to do that. But still, some couldn't figure out how to use that setting so now MS has to dumb down the OS even more for them.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

It's not that we can't figure it out, little intern, but, rather, that we don't fucking want to. Can you wrap that tiny little child's brain of yours around that notion?

Getting rid of over-sized kiddie phone icons is dumbing down the OS? Get some fresh material from your boss, little intern. You've become stale and boring.