Microsoft Uses PCs to Showcase Xbox Game at Gamescom

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Engelsstaub

Only a relative handful of ass-devastated PC gamers cry about, care about, or even notice this. Some people should be less concerned about "omg consoles are holding back my graphics-experience!" and more concerned about ensuring that the rollers on their computer chairs can withstand the weight of their fat asses. I prefer the couch even if my games were developed on a PC (no shit, right?)

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bigrigross

Oh look he is back and as delightful as ever. Congrats with your console. Ill take my wireless 360 controller with it connected to my media center PC and I will happily play games on my couch with much better graphics and at actual 1080P. Have a nice day.

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Engelsstaub

Thanks, it's good to be back. I was taking a break from talking shit and trolling this place up TBH.

I currently have both a console and a PC...guess which one I play on more. ;) (Honestly, I don't play that many on either to be fair.)

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yammerpickle2

M$ being M$ again. I’m ok with people doing a demo on development hardware, but they should tell you that it is not running on native hardware, or software. Look at all those signs above the monitor shouting Xbox and Xbox One. Not a single disclaimer saying the demos are not on native Xbox One hardware, or using that operating system software. Who knows what sort of rig was swinging this demo, GTX780 TIs in SLI, or Titan Z with all the bells and whistles turned to max? That is something a Xbox One could only dream of from a graphics power standpoint. If I go to a restaurant and there is a picture of the special of the day being a nice juicy steak, and order it based on that picture, but they bring me a hamburger I'm going to be upset. If an auto company did demo rides in a sports car like a Shelby Cobra or Mustang GT and then after you pre-ordered the car they instead delivered a V6 Mustang there would be immediate lawsuits. Every automotive brochure I’ve ever seen have disclaimers about price and specifications subject to change without notice because of this. However, because it is M$ and it is a game we the customers let them get away with it.

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jgottberg

The fact that the games or demos are running on a PC means nothing. The games are developed on a PC obviously, not the console themselves. I'm sure it's much more practical to run a demo of a game on the systems it was dev'ed on rather than taking the time to port it over to either the XBone or PS4 system.

Seems to be a pretty big non-story to me.

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Renegade Knight

I agree in principal because you are rig about development. From a marketing standpoint. It's a big faux paus.

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tetris42

1. It's not necessarily developed to RUN on a PC. People write apps to run on Android on PCs, that doesn't meant they run natively on them.

2. Unless performance is equal, it's essentially a form of false advertising. PCs can have better visuals and speed. If reviewers see that in person and attribute it to the console, they're successfully fooling a lot of people. Ubisoft's E3 gameplay presentations are often examples of this.

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jgottberg

Please tell me you aren't comparing compiling an Android app on a PC to developing games on a PC. They are VERY different animals.

Do you REALLY think that a developer is going to code an entire game to take advantage of and optimize the game to run on Nvidia hardware when it's ultimately going to run on a console with AMD hardware? Probably not. So the false advertisement based on graphics doesn't work here. I'm quite certain that when a game publisher is dev'ing games, it's with emulation of the hardware the game will ultimately run on.

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tetris42

I think what that means is this particular game is likely a timed exclusive that will be on PC later and that's what they are demoing. So in this particular case it was likely developed for Xbox AND PC. The android development was just an analogy, meaning console games that AREN'T cross platform are developed on PC, but they don't RUN on PCs.

Are you really that certain of an emulator? For the previous generation, the games would be tested on a special dev versions of console specifically for development purposes. I'm not aware of any emulators for them, though I imagine they could emulate specific functions.

If you know evidence of an emulator for current gen consoles existing however, by all means, link to it. I mean hell, if emulators existed for the previous generation, do you really think backwards compatibility would be such a problem for the current one?

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jgottberg

Sorry, I re-read my comment and came off pretty dick'ish.

When I said emulation, I didn't mean in the truest sense as in actual emulation. I meant it to mean that the PC's they are using to demo the games are probably pretty close spec-wise to what the consoles would be running. It wouldn't really help the developers at all to use maxxed out hardware to develop the game only to re-code it later for lesser hardware.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any emulators for the previous console gen... The reason MS and Sony don't do backwards compatibility is because they already laid out cash the first time around for those games. There really wouldn't be a financial gain for them to spend the dev time and resources creating emulation for the current gen console too. As convenient as it would be, it doesn't make financial sense for them to do it.

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Quenepas

Why this matters? Well they have a damn Xbone in front of you, powered on, you are using an Xbone controller... then all the sudden it crashes to a WINDOWS 7 with NVIDIA, in other words, the game looks good because is NOT running on a DAMN XBONE!!

Technicalities aside, this is just a very deplorable deployment and execution from a company who is supposed to be working to best themselves and this just carries a very bad message, a laughing stock if you will, of the Xbone's short life so far. This may not deter people who want an Xbone, but is sure as fvck to deter those who may want one later.

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bbq4tw

Sony does the same thing. It's just not hipster cool to bag on Sony.

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donut

This is actually quite funny.. This article made my day *claps*

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USraging

I don't know why this is surprising. It is possible that the games they are demoing are not a finished product. You really don't think they develop these games on a console do you?

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tetris42

Of course not, but they're developed to RUN on a console. In the past this has meant clearly different hardware than what would be in a desktop PC, though the gap is closing with this current generation.

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MrHasselblad

A bit off topic, a bit not...

Imagine being able to play *either* any Microsoft XBox1 or PS4 game on a laptop?

That one has already been thoroughly "looked into". Matter of fact, I'll bet that Microsoft has gone quite far with it, and surprised that we haven't seen a type of cooperation between Microsoft and some gaming laptops in releasing versions of their laptops that would play any XB1 game.

Chances are that developers already have these types of setups; as I've already seen first hand - in Las Vegas at the "trade show/convention" recently

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tetris42

Microsoft by and large has been pretty clearly anti-PC gaming ever since the development of the original Xbox. They can make more direct profits selling the system, getting their licensing cut from EVERY xbox game sold (not just theirs), and xbox live fees than than from just selling the OS, which the user might have anyway. As for Sony, it's pretty much the same thing, minus OS sales.

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Renegade Knight

Lets see what happens with the App store in Windows 9. For now it's "Want metro software, App store only" 9 can cut off desktop. If they do they will both get their cut on all PC software and help STeam along with it's Steambox.

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tetris42

Wonder how many exclusives they do this with.

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Abbidos1

Its always so frustrating to see, these games being demonstrated on PC and looks soo good, then there capped for consoles, and in most cases the capped version are given to pc gamer's

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MAIZE1951

I do wonder if they ran it on an GeForce GTX Titan thou as they can get squirrely at times (not an lot).

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BlazePC

LMAO !

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MAIZE1951

So much in truth in advertising. Does this mean that all Xbone games will run on Widows 7 with no emulator? From what I've read it would seam so.

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LatiosXT

No.

Chances are the OS that actually runs the games uses a bunch of different calls to the XB1's hypervisor.

It's just more convenient for devs to use Windows because... well... it's the NT kernel.