Microsoft Reportedly Prepping Windows 9 Announcement

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arcr2014

if they make win9 with metro. it's bye bye pcs for me, and hello mac mini.

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misterz100

I'm interested to see what Microsoft dose with this, I loved XP, Vista was OK, Windows 7 was a gem, windows 8 just isn't for me, and from some PCs I have seen have compatibility problems with games, including popular games. Also I have run into fixable but complicated issued with windows 8, one such example was my dads PC, his network, for some reason, was set to public, causing issues, and of course, where was NO easy way to change this, I had to literally change a registry entry, with windows 7? just a couple clicks away and its done. The Metro interface is great for tablets but adds unneeded complexity for desktops, power users have to jump thought hoops just to get the settings they want.
I got windows 8 for 40$ from a promotion. I expect to see the same with windows 9 and maybe hopefully I can see my next build on that OS.

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Granite

Hmmm...

Considering the fact that opening the Network and Sharing Center in Win8 is just as easy as opening it in Win7. I find it hard to believe that you had any real trouble changing that network from public to private...unless, of course, you just didn't know what you were doing.

Myself, I haven't found anything that I could do in Win7 that I can't do in Win8...except use Aero, of course.

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Random

I wonder if Microsoft will try to attract buyers by offering Win9 upgrades for $15 like they did when Win8 launched. They'll definitely need to do something to help them recover from the Windows 8 DISASTER they created for themselves. I hope Microsoft will learn a valuable lesson and start listening to their customers instead of arrogantly trying to shove their silly Metro interface down our throats. I realize microsoft fanBoyZ will say to install Start8 or other tool to send Metro back to the garbage can where it belongs. But the point is, I shouldn't have to install 3rd party tools to disable Metro. We should have the choice straight out of the box.

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fung0

> "I hope Microsoft will learn a valuable lesson and start listening to their customers instead of arrogantly trying to shove their silly Metro interface down our throats."

That seems unlikely, given the company's attitude in recent years. In fact: "Thurrott says the Windows team will focus on maturing and fixing the Metro design language."

Clearly, the attitude is still "Don't worry, we can make this work." No admission at all that the whole Metro concept might just be totally bat-crap crazy. No realization that desktop users, for some silly reason, would rather stick with a desktop interface. Microsoft is still thinking they can TELL us what we want, instead of LISTENING to us, no matter how loud we shout it at them.

I definitely agree with Thurrott on one thing: "Windows 8 is tanking harder than Microsoft is comfortable discussing in public." That's what I'm hearing also. PC manufacturers have taken a huge hit on this stupidity. That's why we're seeing more and more of them quietly releasing Chromebooks and even Android desktops. Something that would have been unthinkable, a few years ago.

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Granite

1. I wonder if very many who have commented here actually read the article by Mr. Thurrott. I did and although I haven't read any of his other articles, I have to say that this article really had nothing in it but speculation, innuendo and claims from "his sources". Frankly, I didn't really see anything in his article that I found to compel me to believe he really knows anything.

2. I suspect Paul Lily is sitting back and laughing his ass off at all the knee-jerk Win H8 comments that have resulted from an article that really doesn't say much.

3. I'm a bit confused about this "open Win8 apps on the desktop" thing. Firstly, why would that be a big deal...and secondly, I can already do this. I regularly open an app, move it to a quarter of my screen, go to desktop mode on the other three quarters of the screen and do stuff in desktop mode. Since I have two monitors, I can do that on both screens or I can open up to 4 apps on either...or both screens...I can resize apps...I can use desktop programs...the combinations are quite varied. The desktop windows and Win8 app windows can be mixed around just about any way I want it.

4. For those of you who are still harping about the "start button"...I think y'all are going to be severely disappointed. I don't think that button will ever come back. You guys are just going to have to get over it.

5. I would like to see Aero come back as an option for those with devices that can handle it. I'd like to be able to turn it off for a tablet that can't handle the extra hit on the system, but turn it on for my 6 core PC that definitely can handle it.

6. Oh, and for those of you who have only regurgitated the tired old reasons to hate Win8...get some new material, eh? Your H8 is getting old.

Now...personally, I'm eagerly looking forward to whatever MS is coming up with. Win8 is a good OS and Win8.1 is an improvement.

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CyberCam

The problem you have is just like the many humans in this world, you're only thinking about yourself! If the world was filled with Granite's then I would be inclined to agree with you. However, people are very different from you, thus have different likes. The human species is just like any other species, they are creatures of habit, you included.

There are those that have the time & patience to persevere through learning new ways to do things and others that don't. There are those that have been trained on one OS for years & find it hard to move on, and there those that don't. There are those that have a very short fuse and others that have very long ones. I could go on & on.

Again, reading your posts, you seem to have a real dislike for people that don't think as you do. Maybe one day you will learn a little empathy and put your feet in someone elses shoes for a change. Maybe one day you learn that you share this planet with other humans and it doesn't revolve around you... and only you opinions & your likes and dislikes.

You could never work for someone like me, (not saying you would want too) because it seems you can't put your personal feelings aside and help someone get what they need & make them happy, not what you want them to have. That's just an observation, just from reading your posts, look at how many times you used the word "I".

The difference between you & I, is that I don't take offense to people being frustrated & talking negatively about an OS. You on the other hand do! I use linux primarily but if someone on this site was to blast it, because they are frustrated, I would understand and suggest another option and not condemn them for hating on it, it's just not for them, no big deal.

Cheers!

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Granite

Hmmm...I wonder if you make it a habit of making baseless assumptions in your personal life...or even in your professional life. If you do. how do people typically react? Do they get pissed off at you? Or do they just walk away in disgust? Myself. I tend to just shrug my shoulders and think. "so it goes".

In any case. when I post here...or anywhere else...I only speak for myself. That is why I use "I" so much. I have no desire to speak for anyone else. You. of course. are free to do so if you want.

Moving on. though...do you have any relevant responses to my comments? Or would you rather continue with your cheap psychoanalysis? I welcome the former...but for the latter. well...let's just say that I decline to take part in your mental masturbation.

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CyberCam

Baseless assumptions? There is a thing called a Track system on this site, you know! Everyone can plainly see how many times you personally group and attack the posters that say negtive things about Win8. It called astute observation that even a child has! Typically in my personal life, they listen because I listen to them first and I'm usually tactful when I deliver the message. It's called using wisdom.

The difference is when you post using "I", you come across very arrogant & condescending like you're putting others beneath you. I'm no better than you, as you are no better than I am. You also have a way of making things personal against others. I don't put others (even you) down as you do and name call all the time.

Wow... I'd be willing to bet that most on this site can see the relevance if they dig into your history. I will discontinue my "cheap psychoanalysis" when you discontinue your personal attacks on a group of people that have discontent with Win8, an OS, an inadiment object and not you personally! The puting down others has to stop sometime! The balls in your court now!

Speaking of wisdom, you should take some cues from John Pombrio, he's a huge Microsoft & Windows 8 fan that gets his points across without the insulting tone. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him and what he represents!

Oh btw Random, thanks for the backup and I'm a him LOL!!

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Granite

LOL!!

Shrug...so it goes.

btw. you seem to have a strange obsession with people who use the word "I". It reminds me of a few liberals I've run into on another site. Perhaps you should deal with that aspect of your personality before you start complaining about mine...you know. glass houses and all that.

Anyway. since you still haven't provided me with any relevant comment regarding my original post I'll assume you have none and are only continuing to stroke youself. Please continue if you so please. bit you'll have to do it without me. I'm not interested.

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CyberCam

You're focusing on this "I" thing too much... I should have extended the meaning by saying "I in an negative fashion" you totally missed everything else I mentioned, as per usual.

You want relevancy to your original post, that only you can understand. here's my assessment of your post...

1. As per usual, you attack Mr. Thurrott, saying he knows nothing and his sources are questionable and full of this & that. Yet you know nothing about the man nor his sources, and you yourself have nothing to counter his claims. You just make baseless assumptions yourself.

2. You assume Paul Lily's motives by basically calling him a troll (in not so many words), and that he posts the articles to get kicks, watching people bicker. The man posts article on everything, even SteamOS.

3. Then you go on a bragging rant about what you can do on 2 screens instead of giving others advice what they can possibly do on one, which the majority of users only have one. So you point is mostly moot!

4. Then you pull an Adam Orth and post a #dealwithit arrogant rant.

5. Was an actual great post (for a change)!

6. Then you go back to insulting ways, because users have problems with Win8.

Then you end it off well with a statement that you're looking forward to Win9.

Looks like for the most part, you like negativity and puting people down. How did I do?

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Granite

How did you do? I have to say you did poorly. I'll give you a D-.

1. You should learn the difference between an attack and an impression. I made no disparaging remarks about the man as a person...but my opinion about his article.

2. Do you really have a problem understanding what you read...or do you misunderstand on purpose? I suspect the latter. Now read what I just wrote carefully. I make no assumptions about you...but I have my suspicions. Much as I have my suspicions about Lily's reaction to some of the comments.

I could go on with the rest, but I would be only repeating myself. Every one of you comments...except number five is a misrepresentation of my actual words, no doubt the result of your purpuseful tendency to misunderstand what I say.

Again...

shrug...so it goes.

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Random

CyberCam's statements are very relevant, in spite of your suggestions to the contrary. I find myself in complete agreement with his/her opinions based on comments I've seen from you in the past.

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Granite

Relevant to what?

All he has done is whine and attack me.

For sure, you have a right to agree with his actions if you so choose, but all I see from you is that you are assisting him in his mental masturbation. But, hey... if that's what turns you on, go for it.

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CyberCam

Please tell me how did I attack you, when did I ever say anything aggressively or insulted you personally. Please point it out to me so I can retract it. Most of it was an assessment of your behavior on this site, and some information on how people tick. As well as some advice in dealing with others.

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Ghost XFX

A year from now, we'll be playing Taps for W8...or we'll be celebrating like it were Mardi Gras. Either way, so long you failure of an OS.

From the moment I saw your UI, I had a filthy image of smelling a bum's breath floating in my head.

Your distant cousin, ME, was the first OS that made me scream bloody murder. And I vowed to never have the wool pulled over my eyes again.

And so, here we are.

It says a lot that I would rather stick with Vista than to migrate to W8 so readily. And that's despite hoping W8 would be an improvement of W7, of which was a very good OS all around.

It wasn't even close between the two.

But be forewarned, MS, if W9 is no better, I hope to see a Mass Exodus to Linux by everyone. Never forsake the legacy users for a flashy palette and duck lips.

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maxeeemum

"Windows 8 is tanking harder than Microsoft is comfortable discussing in public." Thank you Paul Thurrott! You don't have to be a genius to figure that out.

He also says "Windows 8 has set back Microsoft, and Windows, by years, and possibly for good."

Windows 8 is the biggest POS Windows OS ever put out! LOL!

And M$ is waiting till April 2015 to put this "fix" out? What are they thinking? No big hurry LOL! Oh yeah they bought Nokia! LOL!

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/threshold-be-called-windows-9-ship-april-2015

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Blackhound84

I hope Microsoft have learned that you can't win over pc users with cheap gimmicks and flashy looks. Only mac users fall for that crap.

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Nimrod

Who cares? They were told the new UI sucked ass and it did but they went with it anyway. They are just repeating the cycle they have been for over 10 years now of every other OS sucking. When they start telling people about Windows 9 people wont even know there was a windows8.

This is so stupid. Im not paying attention to the cycle any more, ill just use what sucks less and is faster. Could care less about windows 9

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yammerpickle2

I hope that M$ learned a lesson and decides to include options of what UI and features you boot into. Also they need to seriously update and try and optimize direct x. AMD is doing Mantle because M$ dropped the ball. 4K, possibly multiple 4K, and VR headsets will becoming mainstream by then and they need to have native support for them built in. Also they will need to really be able to push the pixels and polygons efficiently. If not and Steam OS does a better job I can see M$ further passing the torch of tech leading giant to others who do a better job keeping their customers wants in mind.

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Hey.That_Dude

M$ doesn't even natively support USB Audio 2.0, which has been out since Win7 started. M$ doesn't do a lot of things because M$ has almost no competition. If their market share drops to like 50%, then they might do all the things they need to do. Other than that, I don't see M$ giving two excrements about a lot of things other than finding increasingly inconvenient ways for them to make money.

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firefox91

I certainly hope that Microsoft gets wise to their interface. I get they wanted a unified experience across all of their platforms. The problem is that doesn't work. On a desktop or laptop I expect to have more capability than I do on my phone. They dumbed down the desktop to something that would work on a phone. I can't even comprehend using Windows 8 in my place of business. We have a very large and very finicky user base. They never like change. They about ate us alive when we started using thin clients. The thought of Windows 8 would bring out pitchforks and torches. Windows 8 is just not a business-class operating system.

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Tacowolf

A windowed mode that works on the desktop? I believe they used to call that a "Start menu."

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

If Metro isn't completely optional, they can shove this one, too.

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PCWolf

Windows 8 could have been accepted if they didn't try to RAM that stupid retarded shitty looking Tile Interface down peoples throats. Like many have said, if it was OPTIONAL, Windows 8 would have been more accepted by the masses. Also, Removing Aero, and taking ONE YEAR to give people the Option to Boot to Desktop & giving them a Fake Start Button did not make things better. OPTIONAL is the Key Word, not forced. Also, Having to sign into the Microsoft Network every time you Boot up the PC was not any fun. a PC should not have to dial in the MS Mothership on every boot. What do they think this is, an XBone?

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RandomInt

You know, if you complain just two more times Paul Lilly will give you a free sub. Go for it.

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Nastyman

I have said it before. All Microsoft had to do was have the old win 7 interface with aero along with the new Metro interface as options when you first install the system. It would have been a slam-dunk for Ballmer and he would have still had is job!

Nasty

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michaelnomad

I have Win8, and don't like it. The idea of Metro is one unified user experience. The problem is that it is completely wrong. Most of us at work do not work with a Metro interface. The vast majority of phones that we all own don't have Metro. So it's just one more thing that we have to 'get used to'. Screw that. Let us choose between Metro and something closer Win7.

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LatiosXT

I think what they should do is give us customization options out the whazoo. Give customers a choice of how they want to use their build.

I'm sure it can't be that hard. Windows 8.1 was a decent effort at it.

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whitneymr

I'm on a Surface Pro right now but I can't tolerate Metro and have Start Windows 8 installed and never remove my keyboard to use this thing like a tablet. It's just a little to large to easily use your fingers or stylus and not have 4 things happen when you try and do one.

I've got a new 6 core desktop coming up in a day or 2 and it will get Win7 installed in it. I just can't see any use for Metro and actually uninstalled all most all of the Metro apps last night. They don't fit my workflow at all.

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shasty78

I think Microsoft is trying to combine the PC users and the tablet users a little too soon, thinking that is where technology is ultimately going. And it may be, but forcing it gives you things like Windows H8... I MEAN, Windows 8. I tried it for a couple of weeks, but wasn't crazy that things I did normally, took twice as long to carry out, not because I wasn't use to it, but because the same things literally took more keystrokes or clicks to do. Taking power away from the advanced user drove me a little crazy as well.

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Xenite

Windows 9 will tank as well unless they give users the option to use a more typical interface. This means an actual functioning taskbar and start menu.

People like familiarity....

Until then I'm keeping my Windows 7 with Winstep.

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Richardbs

I was a little indifferent to Windows 8, but it grew on me. Took a couple days to learn/understand the new layout. When I got the 8.1 update things worked better. My only tiff with the OS is the search.

That search bar back on windows vista all the way to windows 7 was the best thing to me. No need to take up the whole freakin' screen. I really missed it. I threw $3 at this program called "StartIsBack" and now I never see anything from the 'metro' side of Windows 8.1, and I even have my search bar back! Windows 8.1 has been great for me, (with a little work), but I took some points off for messing up the search bar

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John Pombrio

Same with me and Start8. Start8 at least has a search box on it or I do a search using Directory Opus 10 (a MUST HAVE Windows explorer replacement no matter what the cost). I like exactly ONE app (weather) and I can use that on the desktop with Modernmix.

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mothrpe

I'd just like to keep windows 7 on my desktop.

I tried windows 8.1 and it just made things more difficult. Give people choice fertheloveofgod, let them keep their traditional desktop if thats what they like.

Metro is for touchscreens, keep it there.

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Trooper_One

Man, I'm getting poor just from upgrading the O/S once every 2.5 years...

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gshawn60

I agree. I no longer have as many applications that are compatible with my Windows anymore, except my Microsoft Office so I will be upgrading to ether Zorin-OS or Ubuntu. I think it is my time to learn a new OS.

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nealtse

I like this concept redesign. Take the full screen metro tiles and shrink them into a flyout box for desktop users.

http://kotaku.com/20-year-old-designs-a-better-windows-than-microsoft-1482249033

Having to flip to fullscreen to access shortcuts interrupts my computing experience.

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Hey.That_Dude

Agreed. I really Like this. It puts things that I always use on the Start Button (Shutdown, Sleep, and Search), but allows for a more "Tiled" experience. I could deal with that. and Having the Start Menu open up in horizontal is cool too.

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soffhands

Maybe if there was a mode to switch between touch and treditional screen making it easy for consumer not Techy people

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reded23

There is in Windows 8.1 in Taskbar and Navigation options, also the windows Icon at the bottom left of the screen.

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devin3627

the reason windows 8 was released in the first place was to make money. like how call of duty xbox 360 games are released every year, quality over quantity, copy and paste.

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reded23

again not true, Windows 8 has 100's of new features that improved it over Win 7. Microsoft are not a charity and you don't have to buy it !

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Slurpy

Not a charity, true, but clearly you haven't tried to replace a broken laptop lately.

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devin3627

no kidding, with 4k resolution coming around and windows 8 dropping the functionality of using windows instead using full-screen of all windows. ridiculous.

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reded23

except this is not true.....

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maleficarus™

I knew W8 was going to fail hard! You can't take 20 years of a certain look to windows and change it and expect everyone to be good with it. That would be like releasing a new car with no bumpers LOL...

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Mark White

Will it have Aero?
I know I'm in the minority, but that's the one thing that irks me about 8.
It's a step backwards to XP for me and it isn't really a resource hog.

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rsaotome

No, trust me, you're not in the minority.