Microsoft Admits That Some Xbox One Disk Drives Are Having Problems

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acidic

they are offering a free shitty game if you are affected by the failbox 1. trying their best to one up sony but we all know a free game can't distract from shitty hardware

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big_montana

So you consider Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, Ryse: Son of Rome or Zoo Tycoon all "shitty" games? Spoken like a true PS4 fan boy. At least MS system still works, unlike the PS4 paperweight. Oops see what I just did.

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acidic

real fanyboy here considering i haven't played a console in 3 years. i haven't even touched a ps3 ever. only bought a ps2 for like 3 games then sold it. i'm exclusive to the master pc race. and yes i would say those titles are shitty. let's play a game about a zoo or yet the millionth racing game, or 2 billionth zombie game or the highly anticipated rome game that gets shitty reviews. not to mention ms banning people from using the upload studio for swearing. i guess you prefer to be bottle fed and cared for like a little baby. let me guess, you're an apple fanatic too huh ?

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big_montana

Find that hard to believe what with your comments calling the Xbox One "failbox 1". All of those games except the zombie game got good reviews, and how do you know which game is a good game or not since you only game on the PC? these are console titles so why are you reading reviews on console games? And what is worn with MS for banning people for cursing on a PUBLIC space, a space that they themselves can he held liable for as there are 8 year olds as well as 40 year olds posting and viewing these videos. I would not want my 10 year old daughter subjected to the content of these videos, but I suppose you have not problem with it as that is the only way you know how to communicate, through cursing.

For someone who states he is not a fanboy I notice you have not flames Sony for their PS4 bricking, for Sony censoring user content being uploaded as well. So you keep on deceiving yourself that you are not a Sony fanboy, but it certainly is playing out differently with your words.

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GenMasterB

I'm sure he's sorry he upset you Mr. Gates.. Won't happen again.. swear..

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Rift2

Awesome video one of the most important features just fails I like it PS4 owner here =)

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vrmlbasic

Is this another case of "serves you right for making your console in a country that wants to nuke America"?

I understand that the US Government has made the "cost of corporate patriotism" very high, and that businesses thus have to go elsewhere to make their products. If China keeps raising its cost of business with shenanigans like these then it might just cost less for companies to stay in the US, even if the US doesn't lower its foolishly high cost.

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jbitzer

Yep, let's all wish really hard, and we can resurrect American Manufacturing. I'm sure the unions will wake up one day an realize that it isn't $60 an hours worth work snapping a chip onto a circuitboard all day, and we will rebuild the world economy.

China doesnt' need to nuke the US, they make too much money off of us.

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The Mac

once the unions are abolished, manufacturing will come back.

Its just a matter of when.

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jbitzer

If only....

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kixofmyg0t

So where is John Pombrio for this? He made a point to post something negative on every single PS4 related post and is desperately trying to defend the Xbox One.

Like right here where....well I'm not sure what point he's trying to make since he doesn't know what a "power brick" means.

http://i.imgur.com/i2nV1mb.png

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vrmlbasic

I didn't know that we "got personal" on these commentary threads, or at least not to the degree seen here. :)

I actually liked that the DreamCast came with an integrated power supply. Power bricks are lame, especially when they are the size of 80s cell phones, as was the ludicrously huge and proprietary 360 power brick (complete with annoyingly bright light built in).

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John Pombrio

Heh. Right here. How did you know that this story would draw me in? Desperate to defend the XBox One, no. I got mine in, it works, and now it is used only by my son. I don't play games on any console (cannot use a game controller any more) so have not bought any games for it. Just used as a Netflix player, which it does beautifully with a sharp image, no hesitation, and 5.1 via the HDMI and I enjoy the how well the new Kinect voice commands work.
As for the PS4, I simply do not like the way SONY (and Microsoft as well) have removed capabilities of the latest console from what was available in the previous generation. I also dislike the way the PS4 is designed inside for removing heat and the modular power supply inside the case does not help.
As for issues with broken launch consoles, it was difficult for anyone to pre-order and wait six months for a console only to have it delivered not working. It was worse to then have other people post derogatory remarks about it. Kind of like Mr. kixofmyg0t's post.
My last post about the consoles here. They have launched and frankly, the story is getting old. It will be gone from the news in a couple of weeks after PS4 worldwide launch and Black Friday.

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LatiosXT

The Xbox One's way of dissipating heat makes no sense whatsoever. Sure, it vents up... but that means you can't stack anything on top of it nor can you put it in a low clearance cabinet because I don't know, most home theater electronics were designed to vent out the back and most entertainment centers were built around low clearance shelves?

Considering that it took Microsoft three tries to get the 360 to stop failing so damn much, I can't trust Microsoft's design at all.

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John Pombrio

Agreed. First thing I thought of when I turned on the One. Good for cooling tho if you can keep the vents clear. I have a low shelf for it and it vents fine with less than a couple of inches clearance.
As for the PS4, I have NO IDEA how hot it runs or if there really is a problem with it overheating. It's just my fixing instruments and PC boxes of all shapes and sizes for 25 years at HP I rebelled at the making an aluminum sandwich of the PS4 mobo less than a half inch thick and cooling it with dimples and a fan that looks too small. OK for low powered laptops, not so good for a high end APU and fast memory.

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big_montana

According to Arstechnica, the Xbox One is less power hungry of the two consoles, but does run hotter: "The Xbox One is generally less power hungry than the PS4, running a good 20 to 30 Watts lower whether sitting idle on menus, displaying streaming video, or running at maximum gaming performance. The PS4 wins out in standby mode, though, saving seven or eight Watts when the systems are "off" but still awake enough to download content or start up quickly (both systems can be turned off completely to avoid almost all power draw). Neither system is exactly loud when in full operation, but while the PS4 is quiet, the Xbox One is practically silent. Close your eyes and you'd be hard pressed to tell if the Xbox One is on unless you get right up next to it. The Xbox One got noticeably hotter after continued operation, though; our IR thermometer measured a top temperature of 115 degrees Fahrenheit coming off its top vents compared to about 100 degrees for the PS4"

http://goo.gl/1JzSBm

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kixofmyg0t

So you bought a $500 Console.....just to use it for Netflix? Yep that makes total sense. You do know that Chromecast is $35 and does the same thing as your Xbox right? Of course you don't.

Sony did remove features from the last generation, I assume you're talking about backwards compatibility. I have a backwards compatible launch day PS3 and I can tell you that feature is overrated. PS1 and PS2 games could easily be added via SW emulator. Will we see that? Sony has said they're working on it. So possibly. Oh wait maybe you were talking about OtherOS? Well if you are then you've obviously NEVER actually used that feature. I did. Had Yellowdog Linux running on my PS3 years ago. Let me assure you, you are better off not experiencing that mess. If you wanted to torture yourself and stick to OtherOS you could have. Sony never forced you to update if you didn't want to, but whatever.

What's wrong with the way the PSU and cooling is designed? The fan cools the APU and all of that is blown out the back....where the PSU is. The same setup worked for the PS3 so why couldn't it work for the "tablet CPU" that powers these consoles? You don't like the design....you even made a point to post a picture of the fan in another post(which proves what exactly?) but even after playing Killzone:Shadow Fall for 6 hours the system is barely warm to the touch. So you may not like it, but it works. I don't like blower style fans like the ones used in Titan/780 but they work, and they work damn good too.

About the broken consoles, it was bound to happen. But the enthusiasm you had for only focusing on one console when the other clearly has issues too is hilarious. Especially when I noticed your name elsewhere posting pictures of the PS4's fan and PSU and making actual effort to ridicule them. For someone who doesn't care....you sure had a lot of interest in that console.

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John Pombrio

Whatever. Thankfully, the news sites are already losing interest in this catfight. Only the truly stricken are still at it.

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wolfing

PS4 user here, there is one feature they removed from the PS3 that does affect me big time, media player capabilities. I use my PS3 to watch movies/videos I have in my network all the time, it works great. But to my surprise, they removed that from the PS4 (had I known they removed it, I wouldn't have bought a PS4). Luckily, Sony said they didn't know so many people used that, so they said they're going to add it back in a future update.

Other than that, my PS4 works fine though I'm not playing anything there yet. Waiting for PS+ to have some free or discounted games I like (non-twitch RPGs mainly, I couldn't care less about shooters or platformers which seems to be 90% of current games).

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Carlidan

So he prefers the xbox one. It seem you prefer the ps4. Don't know why you care what he said. So he describes why he hates ps4, you tell why you hate xbox one. Looks like you want to argue with him. Also if you read his post. He said he bought it for his kids. He only uses it to watch netflix or something.

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John Pombrio

I don't use any of the game consoles at home AT ALL. About the only thing I do with these new toys is play with them for a while setting them up and seeing their capabilities. A couple of day's entertainment at best.

My son uses Netflix as I dropped cable TV a few years ago. My two sons plays games when the other is home from Brown and Andy plays console games when he tires of the his PC. HTPC in my bedroom and my PC are MY toys!

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vrmlbasic

Do you have one of those "OpenConnect" ISPs that NetFlix was always trying to push me to get (which was impossible) when I had their service? I ask because NetFlix made it clear to me that their streaming quality was abhorrent, sub-DVD, because my ISP didn't support their "OpenConnect" and that my quality would continue to be abysmal, and that I shouldn't even dream of 1080 streams, until I grabbed my torch and pitchfork and marched on Verizon to demand that they implement OpenConnect to save Netflix money (and maybe get me streaming that isn't an eyecrime).

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John Pombrio

I have Cox and no idea if it is an "open connect" or not,heh. The service is extremely fast for me. I hit a download speed last night of 7.21MB/s (yes with a Big B) and sustained over 6.5MB/s on loading Starcraft 2 on my latest rebuild of 8.1 (still trying to get my one machine to sleep -the other 3 computers have no problems, over 400 posts on eightforums.com)
For some reason, both the 360 and the One are superb Netflix players with the One bringing it up a notch (heck, even YouTube looks great on it). With an GTX 680/ o/c Ivy bridge HTPC, the picture looks much worse than the consoles. I have NO IDEA why. If I had just the HTPC, I too would avoid streaming Netflix.

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aaronj2906

Microsoft and X.0 (one point oh!) product releases...

Those in IT have generally learned the concept of "wait for the service pack" for the OS releases. Otherwise, you are paying to be an unofficial beta tester.

At the risk of flaming, I consider the consoles to be no different in this regard. I'd prefer to wait for the growing pains to lesson before opening my wallet on any of this.

(expand this rule to any of the vendors, actually)...

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big_montana

Which is why I did not purchase a console from either MS or Sony and will wait until next year. That and there are a limited amount of games available, and those that are out most will be released for my still very capable 360.

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Paper Jam

Two bouts with the RRoD on my 360 is one the reasons I decided to give the PS4 a try this generation. That and the ever-watching eye of the Kinect/Big Brother.

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aaronj2906

@Paper Jam...
Hmmm... You might do a look up into OTHEROS and the PS3.

Sony will not hesitate to remove a sold-as feature from any of their products AFTER you buy it. What's worse... the corrupt crony capitalist legal system (aka, U.S. court system) was in Sony's pocket on this and did not defend those carrying a receipt.

They lost any future business from me when they did that.
(they don't care).

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Paper Jam

Oh, I know Sony isn't without sin. But after 7+ years with the 360, I just had to have a change. When MS moved to their unified OS approach, that was really the proverbial last straw. So much spam and detritus on the dash board after paying for a gold account, and lack of such basic functionality as Netflix without a gold account. Couple this with reports of MS patenting new and exciting ways to spam me by watching me with the Kinect, and I have to try something new. Will I never buy a 360? I don't know. But I am already liking the more minimal designs of the PS4. And I am curious to see what exclusives are yet to come. One can only play so much Halo, Gears, and Fable without looking at Uncharted, God of War, Infamous, Resistance, and Little Big Planet and realizing that there is a lot more variety on the other side. And if I am wrong, eventually the price will drop on the XBone, that is if there comes an exclusive I can't live without.