HTC's Profits Sink Like the Titanic, Down 83 Percent in Q2 2013

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doug197042

Stop getting rid if SD card support and removable batteries. I use to buy HTC exclusively, but new phones do not have removable battery or SD card. No real reason for non-removable battery and no SD card slot other than forced obsolescence!! If you run out of room buy the next model with more storage, if the battery goes bad, which all rechargeable batteries do eventually, you can't replace the battery without the phone. I stopped buying HTC for lack of updates and shoddy support, as well as lack of ports, SD card slots and removable(user replaceable batteries).

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PCWolf

HTC, like Nokia, needs to stop selling Windows Phones. Seems any company selling Windows phones is in some kind of trouble.

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Thomas Fraser

I have the HTC ONE.

The phone I love it.

The 2x Front speakers and built in amplifier makes it a head above
the rest if you ask me. I chose the HTC ONE over the S4 For that reason alone.

Haters going to hate regardless...

Its like buying an apple product You have More money the sense lets
show it off!@!@!

Overall Great phone Built in Am/FM Radio And the battery last all day and some.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

"Haters going to hate regardless...

Its like buying an apple product You have More money the sense lets
show it off!@!@!"

Oh the irony.

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TechW

The HTC One, the flagship phone for HTC, has been out about 2 months now and already many are complaining that it has not been upgraded? A little patience might be in order. By all reports it will happen in the next month or two. Certainly HTC does not want to screw up on the One.

As I recall, my Nexus 4 GS was supposed to get upgrades all the time. I believe I remember going from 4.0 to 4.1 the entire two years I owned it. Clearly even Google is not getting out regular updates for Android on even the Nexus phones.

I think that perhaps an economic incentive is needed. Free point releases and charge, say, $20 for a full version release. That would cover the costs of development and testing to give the carriers and manufacturers a reason to continue supporting older products. This is not unlike the personal computer model.

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Peanut Fox

I'm surprised people even care so much. Google doesn't do worthwhile updates between the major revisions. The biggest feature I can see is multi user login. Woopie...

I don't know if charging people is right though. It's not as if manufacturers HAVE to skin Android. They could just let Google take care of it. Since they go out of the way to lock you out from being able to update the phone yourself it would be a bit BS to then charge people for the privilege under the guise of 'covering costs'.

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Danthrax66

I used an updated 4.2 rom on my evo 3d and it doubled the battery life. I'm currently getting 2 days of battery life out of my One with a 4.2.2 rom with multiple apps running in the background receiving push updates. They change things in the background to make android better. People that complain about updates need to quit bitching and root their phone.

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PCWolf

Problem with Rooting is that its not easy for most users to do, & requires Know-How. You can just Root a phone & slap any rom in there. Not knowing what you are doing will Brick your phone, Void your Warranty, & cost you $$$ in repairs. Also, some carriers have proprietary Aps/Software in their phones that are needed for certain features. I remember I once purchased an unlocked Nokia Phone that was not carrier specific but was the same model, & I lost the ability to Conference Call because the software was gone on the new phone.

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Hey.That_Dude

1) Long Term Support and the option to have a pure Andriod phone.
2) Focus on better quality products.(They're starting to do this again)
3) Expandable Memory. OMG... it's one of the few things that keeps me away from any apple product in existence. I want to have a 64GB microSDHC UHS-1 card so that I can listen to flac encoded music on the AWESOME sound hardware you've go on your flag ship phone. But I can't with all my apps and junk (at least not very much of it).
4) DON'T JUST START THIS WITH THE NEW PHONES! Go back and give the older phones (like say the last 2 years) LTS. Then you'll be sitting on top with Samsung... laughing at cApple.

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Sir Hobbes3

You classify Beats as "awesome sound hardware"?????? WTF is your problem!

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Hey.That_Dude

Having seen some of the shat that people have for audio in their phones, Beats Audio is like the Elysian Fields. Trust me, I wish there was a BETTER phone out there in the ADC/THD+N area. They do sound better than most other phones I've listened to music through. But if you know of a Sennheiser based phone or one that sounds even remotely better than a portable MP3 player, then please SHARE THE LOVE!

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Danthrax66

If you are listening to flac you should just buy a 160gb iPod classic and rockbox it, then go out of the doc connector to a dedicated dac/amp for your headphones.

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Hey.That_Dude

1) I hate Apple.
2) I want to use my phone.
3) I've got a dedicated amp (with a TPA6120A2 on +-9V rails) if I want to use it
4) I wish I could build my own dedicated portable audio card... but then I'd wonder why my phone doesn't have it. Honestly, it wouldn't be that much more difficult to build a music player. You'd just need to add a CPU, a microSD card reader, some buttons, and a screen.

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boidsonly

HTC's habit of abandoning their devices and customers has earned them this position. It is an unenviable position but one they earned...

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kixofmyg0t

Such as the One S, which HTC just abandoned.

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FatOldGuy

Totally agree.

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PCWolf

100% agreed!! But HTC is not alone in this practice.

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Peanut Fox

HTC was the first one out there with an Android phone, and took the largest risk. It's sad to see how far they've fallen. If they could only limit the number of handsets, and focus on long term support for them I really think they can turn it around.

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FatOldGuy

I love my Evo 4g LTE very similar to the one feature wise and I got it free with contract. I just wish HTC would update more often, they make so many versions of phones that often only the newest ones get any update love and models that are less than a year old get nothing.

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Danthrax66

You should seriously root your phone and install custom roms. Head over to XDA developers and find the development thread for your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1686 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1594 not 100% sure what the difference is between those two for my HTC One I've been finding more stuff on the "Original Development" sub forum but I think development is for more cross-platform stuff.

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whiteodian

That is too bad. They seem to make quality handsets. The new One is a lovely phone. I would have bought an HTC if there was a good off-contract price when I was looking for a new phone. I could now get the 8x for $334 off contract. I bought the Nexus 4 7 months ago when the 8x would have cost me $550-600 so the timing just wasn't right for me.

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tony2tonez

They do make good phones. They even off unlocked bootloaders. But they moved away from removable battery and microsd. Samsung still offer the two over unlocked bootloader. It's the reason why I went with Samsung, my old Inspire last me 2yr but died because of rain, which most phones will.

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Danthrax66

Even though the battery isn't removable it is lasting me 2 days on a charge far more than any other android phone, they are using a higher quality battery that should last longer than other phones as well. I've never cared about removable SD cards it's not a big deal and I don't really see a need. I just use google music to stream my music library if I have to.

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PCWolf

Non-Removable batteries & lack of a Memory Slot are Deal Breakers in my book. Batteries degrade over time. & your so called 2 days of battery life will become 1 day in a year. & will most likely die out in 2 yrs. Forcing you to get a new phone or find a way to crack your case open to replace it. As for streaming, unlike you, most people no longer have Unlimited Data on their Cell Phones. Using Streaming for music could cause there Phone Bills to skyrocket should they go over their data caps.

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Mr_Histamine

Yeah, they really do make some excellent phones...they just lack the bottomless ad budget of Samsung (and, unfortunately, didn't become the WP8 standard).

I'm glad they're reigning in their focus though; it'll be interesting to see where that takes them.

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Refuge88

I agree, they need to really up their brand awareness if they want to compete. It was a nice try attempting to let the media do it for them with all of the amazing reviews of the HTC One, which IMHO is the best phone on the market right now.

But it is clear now that they will have to take that task on themselves, and they need to do it fast. Because they do make AMAZING hardware.

I loved my One X+, and the One is just a beauty in every sense of the word to me.