HP ZR30w 30-inch LCD Review

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Honest Abe

I must say that I enjoyed the article about display myths:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/display_myths_shattered?page=2%2C4

;however, I must say this review sort tends to make now think that such an article is only included on your site to essentially reinforce your so called reviews of monitors so people will then trust your monitor reviews. These trusting people will then provide you with income through one of your monitor reseller links. You do earn a comission on those links do you not - that's why maxiumpc is included in the link - its the referer?

I am curious as to where the in depth testing of the monitor is - that is, you examine the factory settings and calibrated settings of various color profiles with one or more devices that test the monitor's color output. Simply saying that it looks good is not enough as thats a lot of money to flush down the toilet when you find that its srgb emulation can't cut it -- I've read in-depth reviews of $2,000 NEC monitors only to find that its srgb output is not up to par with standard gambit monitors, thus makiing them useless for srgb work.

 

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Mvidarus

I consider the lack of portrait mode a significant drawback. I don't need it at all to work with Word (with bigger monitors, a fraction of the screen is enough for it), but mostly to see hi-res photos which have a vertical orientation, and to read comics in CBR format. My 24" inch monitor in portrait mode still has more vertical resolution (1920 pixels) than a 30" inch monitor in landscape mode (1600). But even if the vertical resolution was higher, I would still like to be able to rotate the screen ocasionally, even if this gets more difficult with bigger and heavier monitors.

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thetechchild

Whether or not you think they are worth mentioning, the negatives are there. This monitor is indeed compared to various monitors of a similar price range, and the review is supposed to be unbiased. As you can see, various users have already commented as to the convenience such additional features could provide, and even if their ideas are not so good, they would, I'm sure, at least appreciate the option to try. No matter how minor they may seem, they must be put in.

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FunkySquirrel

Yeah, I might recall seeing them on the cover of the "Dream Machine" issue.

 

If MaximumPC had bothered to send me the September issue, that is. 

 

I guess for MaxPC, when somebody's subscription ends in December, it actually means "End in August". 

 

Ya know what, guys?  Might as well end it now, if you can't even follow a calendar.

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1968Panther

Sometimes mistakes do happen, and issues don't get shipped out to a group of people, based on, for example, a grouping on account numbeers.  Do you ever try calling them, asking what happened, and if they could send/resend the issue?  Anytime I've had a missing issue from any magazine I've subscribed to, not one has ever said, "sorry."  They have always gotten a replacement issue sent to me as quickly as possible.

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monkeykid753

My current 32-inch Aquos (SHARP) TV is used as a TV as well as my monitor. I know this monitor can have multiple inputs, but does it support those old Red/Yellow/White  (don't know the name, they were dying by the time I wanted to know the names of cables) cables? I need something that can use those because of my Dish Network DVR... And then I'd need some new speakers too-- a set that uses Digital Audio (box shaped female part)

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sniggler

Lol, composite connection on this monitor would be so fuzzy and distorted it wouldn't even be viewable.

 

You sir, are hilarious.

 

But to be serious for a moment, no it does not. You need to have a monitor with a built-in TV tuner to accomplish (such a ridiculous) task.

 

XD

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monkeykid753

Sorry for the apparently dumb question. Don't know too much about monitors because my dad just buys them for me (I'm a teen with a monitor from years ago).

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1968Panther

To me, in all but a few cases, there's no such thing as a dumb question, as long as the question one is asking has honest thought behind it, and is actually attempting to obtain useful information...at least useful to the person asking the question.

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1968Panther

One of the reasons I prefer to read maximumPC, over other PC mags, is that they tend, in almost all cases, to give completely open, and unbiased, reviews.  The same goes for the positives & negatives, at the end of said reviews.  Unfortunately, in the case of the HP ZR30w, I not only have to disagree with their chosen negatives, I have to question where they came up with them, and what they were smoking. 

Who cares if the monitor doesn’t have (an) HDMI port(s)?  Since there’s no built-in speakers, it’s not needed.  Besides, built-in speakers always sound bad anyway.  Who cares if there’s no media card reader?  They should be built into the computer, not the monitor.  Built into a monitor would be pointless, as well as mostly-useless.  And does it really matter that there’s no portrait-landscape pivot?  This monitor is, after all, primarily designed for graphics designers (think Adobe CS5 products), not desktop publishing, and Microsoft Word. 

It seems to me that there are only items in the negative category just so they could have something to put there.  Why not just be completely honest, and say there are no negatives for anything that actually matters?  Is that such a difficult thing to do/say?  Let’s get real.  If a reviewed product has no negatives worth mentioning, or needing to be mentioned, just state that, plain and simple.

 

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flo21

I use the media card reader on my dell 24" lcd all the time. It's convenient (instead of having to bend down to my tower on the floor), it doesn't waste a usb port, and it's also out of sight and attractive unlike those super ugly peripherals they sell for $10 on ebay or newegg that fit in a drive bay.

Plus it probably doesn't add more than $30 to the cost of a monitor so why not? Especially since a high end monitor like this with a huge screen and lots of colors will be used by pro photographers who are swapping cards all the time.

 

So yea, it is a slight negative.

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sniggler

Actually, not having HDMI on a 30 inch monitor is a dealbreaker for me. I would very much like to be able to hook my xbox up to something that I spent this much $$$ on, thank you.

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animalflynn

1) Only HDMI 1.4 will support 2500x1600 resolution. Any version of HDMI before that would have been incapable of working with this monitor at it's full resolution. In that light, it was a wise decision from a manufacturing standpoint. Note: Only newer video cards support HDMI 1.4.

2) Anybody TRUELY in the market for a 30" monitor could give a hoot about a card reader. I should know. I have personally had three different 30" Apple monitors since 2006  + a variety of card readers. They all serve different purposes, but I have never once thought "Gee. That darn card reader on my computer that is 36" away from me is just too darned far!"

3) You gamers need to give it a rest with your nintendos. I'm pretty sure a gamer never lost out on rent money or a car payment because of a crappy monitor. This monitor is for people that use their computers for WORK not PLAY. No one cares if the blood in your game is color accurate. The people paying big $$$ by the hour however care very much about color accuracy.

4) If you really had that kind of dough to spend for your gaming why not buy a 1080p projector or 55" LCD TV? Loads of connections + speakers + a TV tuner. Oh yeah that's right. It wouldn't make sense.

5) You can display a vertical photo at a higher resolution than you would have been able to with any 1080p monitor, in portrait mode or not. Not to mention you can actually see what the photo REALLY looks like because of the higher color gamut and resolution.

I love maxPC but this article is seriously lame, not to mention some of these comments. Those are far from real drawbacks for anybody searching for a 30" color accurate monitor. 

Should be enough angry ranting for today...

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1968Panther

I can't see any reason why anyone would want to attach a PS3, or any gaming console, for that matter, to this monitor.  Again, this monitor is designed for graphics designers, not video games.  Its resolution of 2560x1600 far exceeds the 1920x1080 maximum resolution offered by any console game.  Furthermore, it 16:10 ration doesn't match up against the 16:9 ration of HDTVs & video games, for which the consoles are designed.  On top of that, video games not only don't, but never could, support the full color spectrum offered by this monitor.  You can purchase a larger HDTV for less money.  buying this monitor for video games is not only a complete waste of money, it is, quite frankly, idiotic.  I'm not refering to you as an idoit...only the idea...just to clear anything that might accidently get misinterpreted,

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Nimrod

If you honestly DONT think that PS3 or 360 games would look far better on this than on any HDTV then you are out of your mind. Everything you said about the aspect ratio and resolution just means that it would have black bars on the top and botton, it doesnt mean it wouldnt work. And yes, this monitor would be great for PC gaming if youve got the cash. Unless of course you think that no back light bleed is a BAD thing.

 

I play games and do a little bit of light photo, video and graphic work. And you bet your ass that if i had a lot of cash i would but something like this. Even if it was mostly used for games.

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Bratan

It makes sense to use this monitor for multiple purposes (photo editing, gaming, etc.), but I wouldn't necessary call lack of HDMI a deal breaker. How much does a DVI to HDMI converter costs? $15?  C'mon buy one on ebay and hook-up your PS3/XBOX360 without any issues :)

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tornato7

Can HDMI even support those kinds of resolutions and color depths?

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1968Panther

Yes, HDMI can support resolutions above 1080p, such as the 2560x1600 of the HP.  The maximum resolutions supported by HDMI are3840x2160 @ 25Hz, & 30Hz, and up to 4096x2160 (aka 4K x 2K) @ 24Hz.  2560x1600 is supported at 60Hz, as well as 75Hz.

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Julyjules

I guess the lack of HDMI, media card reader and portrait-landscape pivot are negatives for this monitor is when we compare it to other monitors in this price range. Of course, when compared to a simple $200 21" monitor, this HP beast kills the thing and can be seen as the perfect monitor. However, Max PC is comparing it to other products of similar price range, and these are probably features found in other products. 

 

 

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1968Panther

While portrait-landscape might (and, then again, might not) come in handy, considering the manufacturers intended use of the monitor, I'd say it leans far closer to the "not handy".  In regards to comparing it to other monitors "of similar price range", the NEC mentioned in the article may have pivot, but it doesn't have USB, speakers, or HDMI (it doesn't even have Display Port...only DVI).  The Apple Cinema HD Display (30") Has 2 USB ports, but no pivot of Display Port (only DVI).  Additionally, none of these monitors have built-in speakers, from what I've been able to see, based on tech specs.  Finally, the Dell UltraSharp 3008WFP may have everything, except for the built-in speakers (which no one really wants/likes anyway), but it does cost $300 more than the HP, giving the HP a price advantage.  Of course, at the same time, whereas the HP provides 100% of the sRGB color gamut, the Dell provides 117%.  Between any of these, I'd put my money on the HP.

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bpotts

@1968Panther

There's no such thing as a product with "no negatives".   No matter how small the negative if you have a product that is very close to being perfect then naturally the negatives are going to be minor.  A review rating of 9 is quite impressive so naturally the "negatives" are going to be minor...

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1968Panther

First, I never said anything about this monitor, or any product having nothing negative about it.  What I said was, if there are any negatives, at least make them real negatives worth mentioning.  What they referred to as negatives for the ZR30w really aren't true "negatives".  Second, as for there being no such thing as a product with no negatives, whatsoever, your assumption is (almost guarenteed to be) untrue.  I have seen, more than once, a "10" rating given, and under the 'negatives' section, there have been, at times, comments to the effect of "nothing I have been able to find."

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M-ManLA

I'm actually happy that there is more displayport displays coming out. I wish they will trickle down to the consumer monitors and graphics cards.