HP Cites "Popular Demand" for Bringing Windows 7 Back

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Renegade Knight

Perception is reality. People hate 8. Doesn't matter why.

It only matters that people hate. If 8 flops. 9 will look like 7 but still be 8 in that 8 will be in stealth mode.

MS can't go back because that's not where the future is.

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Xenite

"Windows 8 is the future" Yeah that's why they just announced Windows 9 will be launching in April 2015.

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Granite

Are you trying to say that Win9 will be a radical departure from Win8? That Win8 won't matter anymore?

If so, I'd say you are wrong. Win8 is the basis...the template...for Win9. The Start Screen won't go away.

LOL!! But that's okay. Go ahead and stomp your feet and say, "I WON'T USE IT!!"...while your kids say, "Oh, Pop! Join the real world, eh?"

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

This must be the guy who developed those break-dancing hipster ads.

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wolfing

I was originally in the 'hate Windows 8' side. I am now in the 'hate Metro' side, since I use Windows 8.1 and with the free 'Classic Shell' I never ever see the abomination formerly known as Metro, and things work just as they did in Windows 7 (except I lost the weather widget)

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Obsidian

HP still does a ton of business with companies. Many companies can't switch to Windows 8 due to network architecture, application compatibility and user (re)education.

Our ordering department gets a computer from HP (our preferred vendor) and it comes with a Windows 8 license, but then the PC techs have to spend hours rebuilding an image with Windows 7 that functions with all the hardware inside the system. Some applications don't work with 64-bit OS, so then what happens to the drivers? How much CPU potential is being wasted then (different discussion).

This move by HP just makes sense. Individual users aren't thinking of the huge business clients, health care, government, etc, that make up so many of the sales numbers. It's one thing to have a Windows 8 laptop sold in Best Buy, but when an executive wants that exact model, it has to be made to work in the (10-year-behind) business environment.

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gc

The public but especially the Business sector has been spoiled by MS.

Their philosophy of compatibility first approach XP to Win 7 is now over. Get over it since XP is no longer the internal backbone...its now Window 8 going forward.

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Paul_Lilly

Good point about the business side of things. My brother, who is a partner at a law firm, recently enlisted my help in selecting a laptop. One of his requirements was that it come with Windows 7, at the request of his firm's IT department. I'm sure he could have gone with a Windows 8/8.1 system, and he was indifferent to the OS, but his IT department was pretty adament about sticking with Windows 7 since their company's specialized software has been humming along on it w/o issue.

It was kind of tricky tracking down a bang-for-buck laptop that met his handful of requirements, Windows 7 being one of the more limiting factors in the search.

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big_montana

You still have to rebuild the computer even if it comes with Windows 7, as no company will run a OEM's build. And it takes more than hours to build it correctly, as you have your core (base) image (Windows only), and than your deployment image (Windows plus core applications). Takes tons of testing to make sure it works properly, not hours. Have not met an application yet that does not work on a 64 bit OS, and I have to make sure my image works with over 300 applications in my environment. This move by HP smells of desperation as their sales and market-share are treading one way, down. While their top competitor, Lenovo who I use, is treading upward in sales and market-share. They cannot grow sales based on their products so they will try to capture sales on a short term gimmick.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Desperation? Microsoft thinks responding to market demand is desperate?

Please, continue pouring gasoline on that fire.

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RandomInt

Oh good, clickbait.

Here's a list of 300 features that were added in Windows 8.0:

http://pureinfotech.com/2011/09/16/the-300-features-in-windows-8-that-microsoft-didnt-want-to-show-the-list/

Here's an overview of the performance improvements in Windows 8 vs. Windows 7:

http://architects.dzone.com/articles/windows-8-definitely-faster

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sojrner

I still don't get it. I use win 7 at work and win 8 at home. The "start screen" is just the same as the start menu, only expanded to full screen. Big deal... everything still works the same. Take a breath, calm down from the win-8-hate and actually try to use it "normally." You may find that it's not the evil its reported to be.

On win 7, I use hotkeys. (alt-f4, windows-arrow, etc) The only thing my mouse does on the desktop is hit quick launch items or click items pinned to the start menu. The rest of my start menu use goes as follows: I hit the windows key and start typing something I want to run (by name) and use arrows and enter to select what comes up. Whether control panel, computer management or a game, that's what the start menu does for me. If you don't use it that way on 7, you should try it. I don't waste time trying to find something in the cascading menus there...

...and this is exactly the same as the start screen on windows 8. If you have the OS set to boot to desktop or go to desktop right after boot, then operation is the same. The Windows key brings up the start screen and you just start typing. It will bring up a list of results that narrow as you type. Simple. If you insist on finding things in a cascading menu with a mouse, you now have a flat menu there with no hierarchy. I think 8 is actually faster that way between the two. (and you can re-order to your heart's content) I've also never connected win 8 to any account, don't use the "store" to get "apps" and use it exactly like my win 7 desktop.

Once you get past the hate over that silly start menu and realize its no different, you can ignore charms and the like (which are nothing but UI flourishes) and use the OS like win 7. At that point, the only thing weird is the insistence of some selections (primarily system items like control panel) to be full screen... but while I don't like that one aspect, it doesn't break the world.

Basically, don't believe the hype and quit whining. Win 8 is not the boogie man that kills your PC nor is it radioactive. It works just fine on desktops.

Really.

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PCLinuxguy

Agreed. But haters will keep hating and bitching about it regardless while the rest of us move onward and get work done.

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gc

yo, make a live account man jezz... its not like google/adroid ecosystem, for the most part the APPS doesn't gather our info for advertising. And Skydrive cloud is a mojor plus for Windows 8 especially if you create content on multiple devices.

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Neufeldt2002

gc said "yo, make a live account man jezz... its not like google/adroid ecosystem, for the most part the APPS doesn't gather our info for advertising."

Keep believing that kool-aid they have been feeding you. Not only are they harvesting info to target ads at you, they are the first to hand over any info to the NSA.

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gc

no I don't doubt it although picking the lesser of two evils.

search : "Adware companies buying up Chrome extensions to inject ads"

also NSA loves info. Everything Google is free in exchange your virtual soul is theirs. LOL

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Neufeldt2002

"search : "Adware companies buying up Chrome extensions to inject ads""

What does Google have to do with someone elses ad injection? Someone other than Google made the extensions in question, had a fairly small but loyal user base and sold it to someone else when the right price was offered. That someone else added the injection code to those extensions. Google did the right thing in killing those extensions. I don't see your point here, or were you trying to say that Google should have left them alone to inject spam into every page?

"also NSA loves info. Everything Google is free in exchange your virtual soul is theirs. LOL"

Not fighting this point, but Microsoft is no better than Google except that they also have complete access to everything on your computer which they give to the NSA through various backdoors and zero day exploits.

If you want the lesser of evils, go Linux and avoid both as both are the same for data collection.

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LatiosXT

The funny thing is a lot of people like to say That Windows 8 is the next Vista or WinMe. But it's not. Vista and Me were plagued with technical issues. Windows 8 just has a UI change few are comfortable with. Windows 8 beyond that is a perfectly fine OS.

And I keep pulling this up, but few people were comfortable with Windows 95. The Start Menu wasn't an overnight success.

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PCLinuxguy

The problem is that you can't use factual logic like that to 'win' these days against the hater crowd, as they will keep finding ways to refute the facts with twisted fiction.

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gc

"they will keep finding ways to refute the facts with twisted fiction."

agreed.

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Granite

The dinosaurs will go for it, but the kids growing up won't. They want their devices integrated. Win8 is the future.

But hey, HP sees a chance to make some money and I'm always for more choices.

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glpeter90

A really good Idea. I was thinking on buying a laptop for my sister, but didn't want to buy one with version 8 of Windows.

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LatiosXT

Or they can bundle Windows 8 with one of the Start Screen replacements.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Give it time and I'm sure other OEMs will be of a similar mindset. This can only deal another major blow to Microsoft if Windows 8 usage stagnates.

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lunchbox73

Dell still continues to offer Windows 7.