Holdouts Take Note: Microsoft Readies Penultimate Patch for Windows XP

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keno

loaded 200 old xp machines and 5 64 bit machines.

no problems

keno

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d3v

So after all these years it is still not secure?

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PCWolf

There will never be a "Secure OS" because when the new OS is made, their main advertising point is "Even more secure than the last OS!!!" If they made a Totally secure OS, most people would not buy a new OS.

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Nastyman

I agree, Linux is a great operating system to use on old machines! I have recently used the version in the link below on an old machine and does it cook!

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2530

The reason I used the "K" version is it is setup similar to windows and is very easy to transition to. Just for kicks I invited a bunch of friends over one night and introduced them to the new OS and they loved it! Of course we ended up on You Tube playing videos...LOL!

Nasty

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vrmlbasic

Linux Mint: won't install on my netbook, wouldn't run on my Macbook and nuked my Windows partition setup in the process. No thanks.

Linux is clunky as hell and more fragmented than the Android userbase.

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MaximumMike

>>Linux is clunky as hell and more fragmented than the Android userbase.

Derrr. Since Android is just another fragment of Linux, it stands to reason that Linux as a whole is more fragmented than one of its own individual fragments. That's like saying, "I'm taller than my foot".

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PaPaBlista

The reason M$ wont release the code is that some 15 year old will take it and build it into a working stable OS better than Win 7,8,9,10 or 52,if you need a machine for the old dos games or something the kids can fiddle with without worrying about a meltdown fine, but there is no reason not to move to at least Win 7 or as others have stated Ubuntu, Wine,I have my 80 year old mother on Ubuntu all she does is facebook and email.Antivirus she don't need no stinking antivirus

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praetor_alpha

The reason that "M$" won't release the code is because they have integrated all sorts of stuff from other companies, and the contracts for those all say "you can't release the source code."

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big_montana

Just because Linux is open source does not mean it is secure. OSes have become rock solid and secure, as the attack pints for entry are now applications such as Adobe Reader and Flash, or Browsers. And to think just because you use Linux you are safe is misguided as it seems there is a new security flaw found daily, which you would know about if you kept up on it. http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/

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LatiosXT

Not to mention Android, which is based off of Linux, accounted for the target platform of 97% of all mobile malware. The catch though was that 0.01% of that was attributed to Google Play. The rest were sideloaded.

OSes, security wise, have gotten to a point more or less where nothing can do anything without permission, barring specific security exploits.

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Jeffredo

I'm going to set up an XP machine from spare parts next week. It will be connected to the internet. It will be behind a hardware and third party software firewall and real time AV. I'll scan with Malwarebytes every evening before I shut it down. I'll keep all drivers and software up-to-date (most will continue XP support for years) and I'll use something like Opera for web browsing. I will exercise my usual caution with browsing and email that's has kept me down to exactly two trojans since 2005 - and I don't even use an AV program. I'm just curious about what will happen. 10 to 1 I'll have no issues for as long as I wish to continue the experiment. This is almost starting to take on the tone of the Y2K scare.

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big_montana

The problem being you are not most users, as most users do not have a competent anti-virus scanner installed, most users do not have a hardware and software firewall installed, most users do not exercise caution with regards to what web sites they visit and email they open. So no, this is not akin to the y2k scare, as you are not most users, as most users are idiots.

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Jeffredo

If they're that bad chances are their machines are malware-ridden zombie messes already, MS support or not. I doubt the ending of support will make it much worse for that segment.

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Carlidan

Amen to that.

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legionera

a titanic analogy here will be well in place

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sirhawkeye64

Yes I think MS should release their source code for XP (and older OSes) to the public. Especially since most of the technology is out of date anyway.

It could be used to teach GUI programming or whatever, or even maybe how the Windows OS works in general, although it would be somewhat out of date.

I personally plan to keep a spare XP machine around just for playing old(er) games that don't work with UAC or on the newer OSes. Not going to be an Internet machine--just for playing old games. I guess I will have to do a clean install, patch, and then image since there will be no more updates.

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big_montana

And should not Apple also release the source code for their older OSes too? Why just stop at MS, because they are the most popular?

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misterz100

Wait people leave UAC on, on purpose?

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LatiosXT

Yes.

UAC brought Windows up to POSIX-like security, since UAC basically mimics sudo. If you're running Windows as an admin and without UAC, you may as well be running Linux as root because it's the same bloody thing.

Programs that don't play nice with UAC should be avoided as possible because they were expecting admin rights. Which they shouldn't without just cause. You wouldn't install an app on Android that requests permission to look at your contacts and personal information when it clearly has no reason to use it, would you?

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Evan Evans

I am transitioning a lot of my customers to linux on their old XP boxes. Except for 1 printer driver issue there have been no complaints.

Most are impressed with the speed of their older machines on xubuntu.

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misterz100

I agree Linux is a super nice way to breath new life into old systems. I have done it on older system and gave them to family members that just like browsing and watching videos.

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Gikero

Just did the same with one of my customers. I was legitimately surprised with how responsive the system was. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it is a good idea. :)

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aarcane

If Microsoft ended Support for XP by releasing the complete sourcecode (including version history), they would create a LOT of good will in the software community.

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AEM

It won't help at all since people will find other vulnerabilities on WinXP from the source code after the support has ended. Not to mention the hundreds of forks that will be released.