Google Wants to Mine Healthcare Data, Claims It Could Save 100,000 Lives in 2015

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rocktman

To quote Detective Del Spooner (I, Robot): "Oh hell no."

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brutus90

All I see is Google preparing for world dominance :P Google knows plenty about our personal lives, and they wouldn't be doing it if it was costing them money instead of making them money. So many things are invented or created with a seemingly good purpose, but have so many bad ways that they can be/are used.

If google wants to save some lives, maybe they could dump that money into helping people stop smoking or helping people change their diets and losing weight? If they actually are doing that, I've never heard of it and those programs could use this money for marketing rather than using it to mine healthcare data. If they really want to just help people and save lives, this shouldn't be a big issue.

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Rift2

Health Care is where Obama is that is why we have the failure called Obama don't care.

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jgrimoldy

Care to elaborate? Failure how, exactly?

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Ghost XFX

OMG.....

For one, 3/4 of the people in this debacle were kicked off theri original plan, plans that cost close to 50% lower than what they were forced into. That's failure #1.

Failure #2: It increased medications for everyone that was paying a lot less than they are now. I can use myself as an example here. before Obozocare kicked in, I was paying $20 a month for insulin, by the 2nd month into Obozocare, I was paying $50, another two months, it went up to $80. By the 6 month mark, I saw a single vial costing close to $100. And that's just one vial, I was prescribed two different forms of insulin. Can anyone here afford to pay $200 for 2 small vials of insulin?

And mind you, that's with Co-pay.

Failure #3- By the time you get done paying for the premium, you'd have paid more out of pocket to actually take care of whatever it is you're having to deal with.

Failure #4- The number of children that parents aren't able to insure because of Obozocare is humiliating. So many families had to scramble to make sure their children wouldn't be without any kind of healthcare insurance, there's currently a back log that is rivaled only by the VA scandal.

Failure #5- instead of leaving enrollment open year around, there are currently folks having to deal without, because the stupid website didn't work worth a damn. The government shut down the website, and it won't re-open til later on this year.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg....The Government need to get the hell out of our private lives, stop subsidizing welfare recipients as well as setting us all up for the Single Payer plan they are currently trying to cook up. Socialism is never the right answer.

And having served for a little while, I can tell you now, nothing is worse than government healthcare. If your dick was turning purple and threatening to fall off, with a green oozing pus coming out of the tip, the military's answer for you would be Motrin. I'll never forget what my TI told me during basic about being injured. Motrin was their cure all solution, and damn it, he was dead on. Pull a muscle, Motrin. Ass hurts, Motrin. Got an ear ache? Motrin. Luckily, none of the airmen had the purple penile problem described above.

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sttrumpet

Obamacare cut costs for buyers eligible for subsidies by an average of 76% compared with non-subsidized premiums. More than 80% of buyers are eligible for government subsidies, and for them the average premium is $82 a month. (Source: Department of Health and Human Services.)

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ram1220

Failure #6

Pay your premium and still can not use your insurance due to the extremely high deductible. Why pay the premium at all if I can't pay the $10,000 deductible if something does happen? Might as well pay the tax penalty.

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Morete

Why not? I mean, the government has always had full access to your medical records anyway. Pharmaceutical companies have access to your medical records with the exception of your name, address and social. Why not throw in one more invasion into the fire? Does it really matter anymore at this point of no return? HIPAA laws are a joke and the only people HIPPA stops are vagrants off of the street or an ex going in without a court order.

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Ghost XFX

Ummm, no they didn't. that was always a private issue, not a government one. What went on between you, your family and your doctor, was never an issue the government got involved in...until recently.

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froggz

See, it's comments like these that are making me seriously consider ordering tinfoil hats for the entire family.

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quickone

I imagine he's probably more talking about tracking hospital acquired infections, which doctors/nurses are doing more harm than good and even which hospitals are better than others. There's an ED doc who admits everyone and wastes tons of time money and resources, a crass, rude surgeon patients hate but who never has any post op complications. As staff we all know these things but it isn't tracked. This is where data mining would excel. Who wastes money, who's good and who isn't both individuals and as hospitals.

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btdog

Sometimes, the price of freedom is safety and well-being. If you give up freedom to gain safety, you will receive, and deserve, neither freedom or safety.

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someuid

The founders of Google are getting too much of a God complex. I have been moving away from their services recently. Dumped Chrome for. Firefox. Started using DuckDuckGo for searches.

If Page wants to help save people's lives, he and his company should offer in depth training to doctors and researchers on what data mining can do for them rather than think he should be the one doing it.

I know Continuum is just a fiction TV show, but the stuff coming out of Google, and their desire to know everything about you whether you want them to or nor, is starting to scare me in that some of what I see in that show is closer to happening than we think.

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The Mac

Halo.....

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core

"Right now we don't data mine healthcare data. If we did we'd probably save 100,000 lives next year,"

Based on what empirical evidence? Page can say anything he wants. It doesn't make it true.

google wants to data mine everything even the data on your personal computer or tablet, and they've been trying to get access to our private health information. They need to keep their hands off! google already has it's hands in too many pots. They have no business in health care.

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Hey.That_Dude

Having a centralized health care server would make things nice and simple for doctors and patients... but then you'd introduce other problems like:
Insurance companies buying the data and using it to adjust your prices to their profit (without your consent, after all they're so quick to raise the price, but not so much to lower it), high security needs in protecting the data, government that would run it well (the US couldn't even run a lemonade stand, in my opinion), give me more time and I'll come up with a few more I'm sure.

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Jake_620

I feel like you people need to read up on the "Healthcare Reform" that the guy that is known as the US President put into place.

There are stages (1-3) that every hospital has to go though now to meet criteria. One is to join a centralized server...

Look up meaningful use. That will give you light into the tunnel you are attempting to travel.

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Hey.That_Dude

yes Storage is required. Data analysis is not, but that's what you do in normal servers that holds other peoples data.

...especially if it's individually identifiable (because all information is).

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AFDozerman

I thought the same thing, but wouldn't HIPPA laws keep it safe?

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vrmlbasic

That's sarcasm, right?

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Hey.That_Dude

Don't know what HIPAA is, never been into med stuff. (I don't like needles or blood, so I don't like med stuff in general)

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vrmlbasic

No.

This is only a hair's breadth away from "won't someone think of the children?!". :(

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tekknyne

Loosely translated, what Google is trying to say is that there are massive inefficiencies baked into our healthcare system and they would love to exploit those for its own corporate benefit. That way they can funnel some more tax-free money into some Swedish and Cayman bank accounts.

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tekknyne

I can save 100,000 sick dying old people. The cost is stop feeding 100,000 young healthy poor people.

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jgottberg

"wow, this guy goes through viagra like jelly beans"

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boidsonly

Hey Page! Post your health care records here and I'll follow suit.

Idiot....