Google Has Made Its Own Self-Driving Vehicle

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vrmlbasic

Why are the seats in a normal driving position? Since no one will be driving the thing I expected the seats to be positioned more for comfort/style, kinda like the passenger section of a limo.

It would be less disconcerting that way IMO...

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Ghost XFX

No thanks, I'll keep my Dodge Ram QC. Have no use for an Egg car in which, I have no room or control of, whatsoever.

Dude, can you even load groceries in that thing?

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maleficarus™

Agreed! I keep my Chevy Silverado...

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limitbreaker

Fully independent driving of self driving cars will not be a reality until we have intuitive software that can think a bit like the human mind. Algorithms cannot account for every single driving situation that will arise in real life like with bad weather covering the ground with snow making the road not only slippery but camouflaged in white with the side walks. In Montreal most of our roads don't even have lines painted on them because they put an eco friendly paint that doesn't last over a year. How will the software algorithm determine when it is okay to cross the red light or when to ignore a double yellow solid lines? The road is not a place for computer algorithm driving,the best they can achieve in the next 20 years is partial self driving on places like highways and even that will require the human to keep his eyes on the road.

All of this is nothing but a marketing ploy by Google.... They can't even get voice recognition right yet... Forget self driving cars.

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MaximumMike

>>Fully independent driving of self driving cars will not be a reality until we have intuitive software that can think a bit like the human mind.

Are you familiar with any of the current research into alternate computing methods from the traditional pc-type systems we know today? Some big breakthroughs have actually happened over the last 15 years in the arena of computing you just mentioned. For example, IBM's Watson comes to mind.

>> The road is not a place for computer algorithm driving,the best they can achieve in the next 20 years is partial self driving on places like highways

I often marvel at the statements made by technology enthusiasts when they fail to acknowledge that technology is growing at an exponential pace. This one in particular reminds of a roommate I had in the 90's who insisted we would never need more than 32 MB of RAM. At the time I was already pining for 128 MB of RAM. I think that if you come back and reread this statement 20 years from now you will kick yourself for being so shortsighted.

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limitbreaker

Yes maximum Mike, I am familiar with the alternate computing method that you're referring too and I know about Watson. I stand with what I said that fully autonomous cars will not be a reality for the next 20 years (give or take 5 years).

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MaximumMike

Are you familiar with any research like this?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=neural%20network%20traffic%20sign%20recognition

I personally think this kind of technology will be revolutionized in the next ten years, much less 20. Do, I think the technology will be common on the road in 20 years? No, but it will certainly be here, and will be quite sophisticated as well.

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legionera

agree, but at the same time if the algorithm has more control over a situation, it would be a lot better than a panicking, slow reacting, distracted driver. I wonder, how many laws that will change as this car has to have its own utilitarian consciences. While achievable, it will benefit the needs to the one who programmed it.

Another question I ask myself is, what will you do if the car is fully auto? Does that mean that you will get to be exposed to ads in the meantime?

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limitbreaker

The good thing is with self driving cars is that I know exactly how they will react everytime I cut one off on the road. They will be so predictable that I will even be able to make them go the wrong way to avoid me. Imagine a world where every car on the road is as smart as the computer players in need for speed.

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MaximumMike

>>Imagine a world where every car on the road is as smart as the computer players in need for speed.

But the algorithms for self driving cars won't even be similar to the current AI algorithms in Need for Speed. What a computer is required to do to accelerate and change lanes in a video game is far far different from what is required to navigate terrain in the real world. And while everything a computer does is predictable, that doesn't mean that it is so simple that just anyone can do so. I imagine you will find that by the time these cars are common place on the highway it won't be as easy to run one off the road as you think.

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limitbreaker

Obviously... Maximum Mike, quit trying so hard to find arguments. Do I have to be 100% literal for your autistic mind to comprehend? You're like Sheldon from big bang theory but without all the scientific knowledge.

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MaximumMike

Excuse me for trying to have a dialogue about an interesting technology. I guess your inability to interact with others in a meaningful way makes you like Odie, but without the tongue.

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Granite

You raise a serious point, here.

As you say, computers are predictable and people will learn to make these cars react in those predictable ways.

But the passengers in those cars will be helpless when something like that happens...except, maybe, to call the police.

I guess that's going to result in some new laws, eh?

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MaximumMike

>>But the passengers in those cars will be helpless when something like that happens...except, maybe, to call the police.

Not really. My understanding is that any legislation currently being proposed for self-driving vehicles still requires a driver behind a wheel that can take control of the vehicle at any instant. I'm sure that won't change until either all the cars are automated or automated cars can handle most situations better than human drivers.

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legionera

This isn't exactly what I was trying to imply, but sure. The point of automation and behaviorism isn't new. I know that it is a fallacious opinion and feel free to criticize it, but there are a lot of examples in our human lives where human behavior is considered for particular situations and also a lot where we let ourselves to be controlled/directed/instructed by automated machines designed by a particular company that are full of limitations.

GPS systems for example, are automated and our path depends on them. Technological limitations, such as the binary system, restrict us to only two conditions - on and off - despite that we all know that the solutions are never absolute in real life, but have nuance. For example, when you go to the store, your purchase is not limited to one item from only one brand, and the cashier does not scan your products in the exactly same order as the previous customer. However, your cell phone app is limited only to particular set of options and we are obligated to use only those that are provided to us by the developers.

The negative aspect of this is that by building a set of rules (that be by a company, a society, and etc.) we build a set of a predictable behavioral traits that could easily place us in a particular group and even make our future actions quite transparent. I've noticed this in the younger generation that seems quite limited in terms of creativity. I notice this in my generation as well. For example, take the Sega Genesis' advertisement "Sega does, what Nintendont". Due to marketing limitations that occurred during my generation, none of the future gens may be able to apply or come up with a similar type of marketing (because it is restricted by laws).

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jgottberg

I wonder what happens when you push the "I'm feeling lucky" button in the car?

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hornfire3

LOL! you win the internet for today.

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Rogue74

I'm not getting in anything where I don't have a brake pedal and a way to keep it from driving me into a river...

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Innomasta

It wouldn't be that hard to install a brake pedal. It's likely the brakes will be motor driven hydraulics, not too hard to imagine a secondary cable driven system like an E-Brake for the passenger to use in case the car screws up.

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Sean D Knight

That and I'm afraid that someone, a fellow citizen or the government, will hack it and I will end up dead because of an "accident."

Yeah...I'm paranoid.  

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Granite

That thing will put cab drivers out of business in NYC.

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Enigmatistical

It's the Johnny cab from Mars...