Get a Sneak Peek of Window 9 in September or October

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CyberCam

Windows 8/8.1 is a total mess & a huge disaster for MSFT! So many issues for the small amount of (end user) clients I have using it, none of my business clients want to go anywhere near it and now this...
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-pulls-updates-recommends-uninstall-7000032678/

They better make sure that Windows 9 hits the mark or Mac & Linux OS's will continue to gain market share!

Well at least MSFT products keeps me busy working & making money!

P.S. Best reply ever on that article.

"Install MS Updates At Your Own Risk!

Because:

* All the good software engineers left MS decades ago.

* QA is basically non-existent at the company.

* Unless you speak Hindi, MS support reps are completely unintelligible.

* MS is the only company in the world that releases "untested" updates.

* Expect MS updates to break more than they fix.

* Expect to die and go to hell before they finish downloading and installing.

* What kind of company tells you to uninstall updates?

Go Microsoft!

orandy
16 August, 2014 20:37"

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LatiosXT

You act as though Microsoft is the only software company in the world that has a horrible track record. Never minding that the other companies out there that have software development teams can be just as bad.

Microsoft does amazing things when you stop to consider it. They have to maintain and develop an OS that is on 90% of the personal computer market, which is comprised of a near infinite amount of hardware configurations, and they must support software some asshat who didn't know what they were doing worked on because the company (that being the one who employed said asshat) now depends on it. You try doing that.

Ah well. Nobody will understand how software development works unless they've done it themselves. And no company that does software development is perfect. That is my lament

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popetorak

If Microsoft didn't exist, we would be 20 years behind the tech we have now. apple? They never was first in ANY tech, hardware of software.

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CyberCam

I've been in this business long enough to know about the many software companies that have horrible track records, and I realize that no ones perfect, however...

The reason MSFT has so much dislike from users/clients over the years, is because of the premium price they charge for many of their sub par products, their lack ownership on the many issues, lack of urgency on high level security fixes and lack of transparency. Also their notorious unethical business practices over the years, etc..

It's amazing that with all the unlimited funds & programmer resources available to them, MSFT still are unable to get it right, especially with the company being in business since 1975.

I call a spade a spade, I value people over corporations and the mighty dollar. Hardware configurations are only as good as the h/w manufactures and the tools & api they have available to them, not to mention the access (or lack there of) to the kernel. Yes that problem is a shared one between MSFT & hardware vendors.

Funny you should mention understanding software development, because part of what my company (which I own) does is develop in house specialized software (using heavily moddified oss software) for SMB's that want to get off the licensing merry-go-round, so they can own their own software and just pay to have non security upgrades or new features added.

That's my lament! :)

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Baer

While I am now very happy with Win 8.1 (I was not at all happy with the first versions), I am very interested in testing Win 9. I have felt for the last six months that MS is starting to listen again and I feel that the look and feel of Win 9 will tell the story.I have not taken part in an early test of an OS since Win 7 and previously Xp so perhaps a good omen?

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maxeeemum

I'll be giving it a shot! But I'm not getting my hopes up! So far from what I'm seeing and reading it appears to be just a service pack to the current version of Windows 8. It still looks like an advertisement for Windows Phone, Surface, Xbox One, etc.

Also if automatic updates is mandatory in the final version of Windows 9 I'll never buy it.

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Volleynova

Very cool stuff, I always test and play with even some of the earliest versions of a yet-to-be-released Windows.

I remember playing with Windows Longhorn back in 2003 (codename for Vista), back when it was much closer to Windows XP.

Yeah as much as I love Windows 8.1, it'll be nice to be able to move forward and recommend a new Windows to my business customers that are beginning to realize Windows 7 is from 2009, which will hopefully be Windows 9.

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donut

I honestly wish that a new windows wouldn't come out or even be talked about until like 2016

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Granite

I'm not one to run the risk of beta programs, so I'll be giving this developer edition a pass.

As to whether I'll upgrade from my currently updated Win8 to Win 9 next year...that depends on whether MS gives me a pricing deal or not.

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LatiosXT

You're supposed to run this on a dev box or VM, not replace your actual working OS.

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John Pombrio

Tomato, tommato. Technet was supposed to be for testing purposes only but I used it for my home computers. I probably spent more on Technet than I did on the number of licenses I used for Win 7 and 8. Microsoft never complained about it, fully realizing that users were using it when they reduced the number of keys from 10 to 2. The beta will time out and then we will be forced to buy regular licenses again in any case. At least using Technet and previews kept me away from illegal downloads of Win OS via torrents. If MS gives the same initial deep discount of Win9 as they did Win8, I will do that this time around.

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LatiosXT

Microsoft did if you're going to pirate anyone's software, it may as well be theirs.

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John Pombrio

Sorry. the torrents would only be for betas. I have always had legal copies of the OS, stupid not to considering how long they are on the computers. I wonder if MS will finally do a subscription service for Win9?

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Rift2

If it's 200.00 you can forget it but if it's 60.00 I'll take one just bought Windows 8 digital copy for 200.00 and bought a used disk for it on ebay cause I suck as ISOs. The start button doesn't make or break a OS.

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MrHasselblad

How is that used disk working out for you?

Any type of copy or previously used disk typically does not update, or update properly. It will end up costing one more problems (money, time ,reboots, etc...) by even using any non-legit disk than to purchase the fully licensed version of ANY operating system.

As for a copy of an item such as an operating system or something such as Office; take a guess as to how easy it is to slip in a few extra pages of code. If someone is actually looking to save money, look elsewhere

Apple/Mac, Microsoft, and many other very clearly state (and even prove) this one

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Rift2

If you bought Windows 8 digital and used a 8.1 disk It might not work that way.

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whiznot

For me, no Windows Media Center means no Windows OS. WMC is the only Windows feature that stands out as great.

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JosephColt

Windows Media Center is terrible, and who watches TV anymore too? Waste of money to get a cable card and TV tuner these days even.

You can watch your content through streaming, or by not so legal means.

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LatiosXT

Really?

You're going to abandon an OS because of one feature that doesn't define it nor offers any real benefit. You should've switched over to XBMC a long time ago if you want a "media center OS"

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jgottberg

I use Win7 MCE for all of my broadcast recording for my local HD channels. The PC boots right into the MCE interface. I have 3 USB tuners attached and use an antenna in the attic for reception. I can record two programs at once while watching something else (the included program guide is auto-updated and pretty cool). I also have Plex installed so I can watch the recordings on my iPad, laptop or phone from anywhere, even if I'm not on my LAN.

Overall, it's a great setup. I usually just record sporting events (NFL, MLB, NBA) though because I have HuluPlus and Netflix.

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The Mac

no Mocur.

CableCard requires media center, there is no other option.

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LatiosXT

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Setup_CableCard_with_HDHomeRun_UPnP

http://lifehacker.com/5981757/how-to-watch-and-record-live-tv-on-your-xbmc-media-center

Took like five minutes on Google.

I mean I guess if you want everything, sure.

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The Mac

Those articles are out of date.

That only works for ClearQam

Most markets have completely wiped out signals in the clear, since lifeline has been retired.

All channels, including locals are now scrambled.

If you live in a market that still has ClearQam, you are living on borrowed time.

You MUST use playready and it must be protected path all the way to the drive. no exceptions.

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LatiosXT

Well, I guess Windows is no longer in that guy's eyes since Microsoft is basically dumping Media Center.

Buy an Xbox One. ;3

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The Mac

Unfortunate, but true.

Xbox one doesnt have a cable card host, so its pretty worthless as a media center.

Basically, we are stuck with windows 7 for as long as cablelabs doesnt blacklist the encryption keys.

If some joker cracks playready and cablelabs blacklists the keys, we are all screwed and its tivo or nothing,

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LatiosXT

It's not worth the effort because at the end of the day it'll be released on Blu-Ray or they'll find another way to capture it live.

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The Mac

There are plenty of other ways to get the programming, just not as convenient as using a scheduler on livetv.

Plus theres a timing issue, if you have to wait a month to get the programing, it may not be relevant anymore.

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jason2393

Sign me up! I love trying out these new OSes, no matter how much hate and rage the final versions incur. It's a great way to put Windows on a Linux box that I can't afford a license for!

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Bullwinkle J Moose

"Anyone who installs the technology preview of Windows 9 will be required to accept subsequent monthly updates that are automatically pushed out."
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Obviously the NSA will have instant access via the backdoors that end users are not allowed to close

So are these "required" updates just for Local Law enforcement exploits via Court order?

The historical evidence suggests that the mere possibility is not evidence by itself, but the lack of getting an answer either way and the denial of sourcecode to the end users, along with being prevented from stopping such updates by end users in addition to the continual lying by Gov't run Corporations (or Corporate run Gov't) and the never ending creation and use of backdoors as referenced in thousands upon thousands of news articles to gain any and all information from every computer device on the planet would suggest the correct response

A simple "No Comment" will tell us what we need to know!

or....
You're insane
you have no proof
you wear a tinfoil hat
or, "have you taken your meds today?" will also point us to the correct answer if you are not allowed to discuss this topic or let us investigate further

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whitneymr

Time to buy Alcoa stock, there's going to be a major run on their product.

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LatiosXT

In the all mighty words of Wikipedia:

[citation needed]

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Business Direct

I'm sure you're aware that any information of this sort isn't going to be printed in Wired but here's a citation for ya:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

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Arthur Dent

Or, because it's a pre-beta it's still being made, and therefore will be constantly changing. Or does that make too much sense?

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WarpathPS

Companies don't run govt. it is quite the opposite. What does happen is they get in bed with politicians through their lobbyists to get special favors through campaign contributions. Politicians are at fault and their voter base who is asleep at the wheel.

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MrHasselblad

Companies do run government.

Have a company and need something done? But some lobbying or even contribute both directly or indirectly towards a politician. Darn, one can even literally buy a visit from the president of the united states

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WarpathPS

Printing money and off-loading it other nations and incurring a mass amount of debt is, far, far more dangerous than the NSA.

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Ryzer

It really gives it a new spin when you read it in Bullwinkle's voice.

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JosephColt

Oh god, give it up already.

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The Mac

oh geez, here we go....