[DANK68]

Just put together a new 8400 w/ Gigabyte board 2gigs 1066
system. only know how to get the cpu to 3.15mgz. Gonna switch
to Asus P5k board if i cant figure it out.. Please help !!!
I dont know were to put the numbers
DANK

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I have that same board with an E4500 in it. All the tweakings and what not are in the M.I.T. section of the BIOS. Just make sure you go into the Advanced BIOS Features section and turn off all the Clock lowering safety features like CPU Enhanced Halt(C1E), CPU Thermal Monitor(TM2), CPU EIST Function and what not. Also I would recommend turning the CPU SmartFan Nonsence off and always have CPU Fan on High. I do this on mine as my system is in the living room with the television and all that so fan noise isn't a big deal for me. Maybe it is for you. Also when you are actually OC'ing, Set CPU Host Control to enabled, and change the CPU Host Frequency to get what you're looking for. I wouldn't mess with the automatic OC'ing feature that the board has. Just do it yourself right? Also, up to you about changing voltages and whatnot, but all you have to do is turn off the automatic system voltage control and just tweak the settings to your little heart's desire. Anyhow, I hope that I helped you a lil bit. Just post some more if you need anymore help. I'll try to help out and I know lotsa other people here can help more too. Cheers.

[Chumly]

This BIOS has some very strange terms. Like they're trying to coin their own words just to be different. Can one of you guys just take a picture for shear curiosity please. It'd be much good.

This is the normal wording commonly seen in a BIOS' section you'd OC within:

Why making up "Host Frequency" instead of the actual "Front Side Bus" is needed is disheartening. It feels like Fisher Price where they're undermining what we can understand.

[Newbie1Kenobi]

Another thing to do..and it's pretty annoying. When you first boot into the BIOS, you don't have access to all the variables you can control, specifically voltages IIRC. Boot into BIOS, press Ctrl+F1, then go to your M.I.T section.

I don't know why Gigabyte put that extra step in there.

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Okies here some pics of the BIOS. Umm i think this is a good thread for me as well because I have the idea and concept of OC'ing but I can't seem to do it right. So yes in the pics, my comp is running stock. anyhow here you go.
This is the Main Page for the BIOS.

This is the actual OC section.

This is the PC Health section.

This is all the safety crap section.

This is another pic of the main screen (with the flash)


Anyhow hope that helps chumly and ultimately, Dank .

[DANK68]

Appreciate the fast repley.
Can someone give me a screen shot of the tweeks in the M.I.T
section of the bios for a 8400
Thanks everyone
DANK

[Chumly]

Well it helps to understand what you guys are working with, so thanks for that!

But it's shear crap what they do! There's 20 things wrong with that BIOS, and dislike that board even more now.

Just an easy example is the Memory Voltage. If you wanted 2.1v, what would you set? There's no reference. You'd have to first see what you're currently running since the SPD is in Auto and then boost it from there. It'd take me 3 boots to get the setting I wanted when I could just type in "2.1" in a normal BIOS. If you're memory boots at 2.1 by SPD and the JDEC standard is 1.8...would putting +.1 in there be 2.2 or 1.9? It's nuts how that thing is convoluted.

[Newbie1Kenobi]

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Im hoping you guys can figure out what to do to help this guys because I've figured out the concept of OC'ing. But Chunmly knows that I can't quite get it to stay good or something. Anyways last night I was typing a post similar to what dank is talking about and then before I posted it IE closed itself... Anyhow, I really want to OC and get my juice but the numbers on benchmarks turn out worse in some cases and in others only marginally better than stock. So hopefully everyone gets some help around. Also, I set my CPU for 2.96ghz (266x11) and it boots and all that but in 3dmark06 my comp crashes... anyways I gotta go for now but hopefully everything works out kosher for everyone. Thanks chumly, dank, and kenobi.

[Chumly]

[Newbie1Kenobi]

Chumly, I never said it would take fewer steps..you said you needed 3 boots I said I can do it in two. The PC Health section is the same on the Gigabyte boards as others. It reports only what the current settings are, voltage, temps, etc. No variables there to change.

Semantics aside ( I think that's what we're arguing about here anyways ) I've included some BIOS shots from my board. It's a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, rev 2.0. I've included the basic MIT section as well as the advanced features that are unlocked when you hit Ctrl+F1 in the main BIOS screen (page 31 in the manual.)

Normal MIT screen:


Extra "Easter Eggs" Unlocked:


Second half of Advanced Screen:



As soon as I get some better RAM in here, I'm gonna start ramping this Q6600 up. So, I'll probably be posting some questions in here, one of which wil NOT be: "How fast will this go?"

So, why does Gigabyte, or any other company feel the need to "spruce up" their BIOS sections with new fangled terminology, anyways? Is it just to set themselves apart from the other manufacturers?

[00john00]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinventing_the_wheel

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72463&highlight=gigabyte
You will need to change you SPD to a higher #.

[DANK68]

Have a screen shot of my bios (dont know how to up load)
Any how I changerd the system memory multiplier to "2" then
changed the cpu clock ratio from 9 to 8.. Managed to get to 3.5mhz
without any other changes..I guess im pretty happy, as I dont want to pust it
I have Corsiar dominator for memory "1066"
any comments?
DANK

[msnight04]

I'm not trying to steal this thread or anything, but I'm curious as to why this is a sticky?

[Newbie1Kenobi]

I'm going to record my attempts to push my Q6600. I have no preconceived goals here, just as fast as I can get it with stability and decent temps.

Parts:

1-Q6600 stock 2.4 Ghz
1-Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU cooler.
2-1GB OCZ Platinum Edition, revision II PC-6400 RAM
1- X1650 Sapphire Radeon video card
1-320Gb HDD
1-Antec 900 with negative pressure One exhaust fan at back(120mm) one exhaust fan on top (200mm), two intake fans in front(120mm each), all set to medium.

First, I made sure that I was fairly happy with my stock temps. CoreTemp records around 26C idle/45C at full load which the BIOS seems to agree with.

I had to manually set my timings for my RAM to run (thanks to the guys at the OCZ forums) without crashing. Done!! Now on to the real fun.

I've got a thermometer on the case to monitor the ambient temperature around the case..pretty steady around 22C.

I booted into the BIOS and bumped the FSB (or CPU host frequency, as Gigabyte likes to refet to it ) from stock setting of 266Mhz to 271. A modest jump that saw me go from 2.4 Ghz to 2.44 Ghz.

I ran Folding at Home to test for stability while I did some errands. I returned home and


OH NOES!! A BLUE SCREEN

It was a PFN_LIST error. I Googled it and found it seems to be memory related. I had my RAM voltage set to 1.9...below the recommended minimum of 2.0V. On the Gigabyte board it is +0.3, the board defaults to 1.8 I know the math adds up to 2.1V, but the BIOS says 2.0V

I'm running Memtest now and if it passes, I intend to fold for 24 hours before ramping up again...stay tuned!!

[Newbie1Kenobi]

24 Hours later:

Folded all night with no errors or crashes, so I've rebooted into the BIOS and upped my FSB to278. With a 9X multiplier, I'm now running at 2.5Ghz. Idle temps have gone up to about 30C. I've turned the exhaust fan on the back of the case to high, and they dropped by about 2C.

Under load, they are around 44C with an ambient temperature of about 21C. Folding for another 24 hours for stability. As I get higher up, I'll probably switch to Prime 95 or some other sort of stress test.

A quick question about fans here. Assuming I end up turning both exhaust fans up to high, would it make any sense to turn the intake fans down, creating a higher negative pressure area within the case? Or is there some point at which it becomes moot, and the only way I can find out is to *gasp* try it out for myself??

[00john00]

[Newbie1Kenobi]

Right now, my, memory is at 834 Mhz (278 FSB x 3.0 Memory multiplier) Apparently that OCZ RAM is pretty sweet for overclocking!!

[00john00]

Try changing the System Memory Multiplier (SPD) to 2. You can tighten the timings & maybe reduce the DDR2 OverVoltage Control too.

[Newbie1Kenobi]

Okay...another 24 hours have passed and I'm at it again. Bumped the FSB up by 10Mhz this time. I'm now running at 2.6Ghz.

I lowered my memory multiplier to 2.5 which has my RAM running at 720Mhz.

With a room temperature of approximately 21C, temps are still holding around the 44C mark. Folding is up and running.

00john00...tighter timings=raising or lowering the timings? Currently, it's running at 4-4-4-15 at 2T. So, a looser timing would be 5-5-5-16 at 2T...just as an example?

EDIT: Just retested the computer under Vista's Experience Index, or whatever it's called. At all stock settings, my CPU score was 5.9 and my RAM was 5.6. At 2.6Ghz and 720 Mhz (CPU and RAM speed respectively) I now have a CPU score of 5.9 and a RAM score of 5.8. Interesting.