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 Post subject: Re: WARNING: Scammed by Paypal (3K+)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:22 pm 
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linktriforce007 wrote:
Lucky I didn't send out my computer.

Well, after all was said it done, they refused to refund my account, all my stuff that I sent out before was gone, and the money was lost.


This maybe but I don't get it either....


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:49 pm 
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Maybe I wasn't explaining this correctly. Let me reexplain. I do not have the computer anymore because Paypal said when I called them it was a safe to ship. Luckily before , I didn't send it out, but then when they did, boom. Sent it out, Life is good.

Then it says "Stop, don't ship." Well, I already shipped it seeing as how they told me over the phone. I've sent out the computer, USPS is doing their thing like they should be, and the scammer walks away with a computer for free.

I give all my info. Every single bit, away to them. They don't believe it's me, they side with the buyer, game over, I lose.

Now I'm on a PC with a Celeron processor, Windows Vista Basic, less than 1 GB of ram, and an ATI radeon xpress 200 graphics card.

Before I had a Core 2 Extreme, Windows Vista Ultimate, 4 GB ram, and Nvidia GTX 8800 SLI.

Thanks Paypal. Just thinkin about it gets me all pissed off.

Read other stories about "lucky" people at:

http://www.paypalsucks.com


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:21 pm 
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Every company is going to have hiccups. Don't get me wrong, it really blows for you, and I sympathize. But i think its worth mentioning that cases like this are relatively rare. If you haven't done enough business to get some people extremely pissed off, you haven't done shit really.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:06 am 
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linktriforce007 wrote:
Maybe I wasn't explaining this correctly. Let me reexplain. I do not have the computer anymore because Paypal said when I called them it was a safe to ship. Luckily before , I didn't send it out, but then when they did, boom. Sent it out, Life is good.

Then it says "Stop, don't ship." Well, I already shipped it seeing as how they told me over the phone. I've sent out the computer, USPS is doing their thing like they should be, and the scammer walks away with a computer for free.

I give all my info. Every single bit, away to them. They don't believe it's me, they side with the buyer, game over, I lose.


Let me get this straight ... they warn you not to ship the laptop and then later they turn around and side with the buyer to whom they told you not to ship while refusing your identification of yourself?

O.....K?

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Read other stories about "lucky" people at:

http://www.paypalsucks.com


:lol: That site is a joke. 99% of the people who post there could easily have avoided their problems if they'd read the TOS. Most of them seem to think that PayPal is required to refund their money when they get scammed by a third party.

PayPal transfer money from A to B. That's it. They don't sell products, they don't refund money, and they only protect either buyers and sellers in very limited ways ... all of which are clearly explained in their TOS. No sympathy for those people.

Your situation is mind-boggling to me, though .. I think you're still not explaining it very well because it makes no sense at all. Particularly the blood type thing. :?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:12 am 
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beats me.

I don't know if that site is a joke or not, my sibling gave it to me. *shrugs*

But not helping me out when I gave out all that info?

How cruel. My brother said to sue them. I said that he'd have to pay ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:32 am 
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You know what I really don't understand? Why your anger and your desire to sue is directed at PayPal .. rather than tracking down the scammer.

You remember the scammer, right? He's the guy you claim ran away with your stuff ...

No anger at him? Just at the big corp?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:48 pm 
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Jipstyle wrote:
You know what I really don't understand? Why your anger and your desire to sue is directed at PayPal .. rather than tracking down the scammer.

You remember the scammer, right? He's the guy you claim ran away with your stuff ...

No anger at him? Just at the big corp?


I don't want to sue. I'm not all "Let's make a ton of money by suing." I reported the guy to the online police patrol or something like that. I don't remember what it was called, it was for people that did stuff illegally online.

The guy who was apparently hacked, apologized. Like...convinient...

Anyways, I'm not asking you guys to believe me. As I said, it's just a warning. Paypal wasn't protecting me in any way shape or form. They took my money away that I made, not the scammer. Once Lojack tracks down my computer, all will be fine and dandy, presuming that they don't replace the components for it...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:02 pm 
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Like Jipstyle said, its all in the TOS. Paypal is in no way liable here the way I see it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:27 pm 
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It does suck, though .. no doubt about that.

But Paypal doesn't offer much protection, if any. It is best to consider any transaction through them similar to cashing a cheque .. until your bank (not PP) confirms it is in your account, hold onto your goods.

I hope you get your laptop back ... and that the thief gets nabbed. For theft over $1000, I'd try to get the FBI involved. If you sent the laptop over state lines, that is also postal fraud if you used the USPS.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:29 pm 
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At least its not Western Union.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:14 am 
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I was curious as well. He keeps the laptop but has to give back the money that was paid for said laptop. Sounds fair to me with the exception of the Paypal fees he may have lost; that would suck but in the end that is the chance you take for selling $3,000 worth of merchandise on the internet.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:38 am 
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I was curious as well. He keeps the laptop but has to give back the money that was paid for said laptop. Sounds fair to me with the exception of the Paypal fees he may have lost; that would suck but in the end that is the chance you take for selling $3,000 worth of merchandise on the internet.


Like Jipstyle before you, I think you're missing the fact that:

A) He was on the phone with Paypal and they said "Everything looks good, send the lap top" and I expect that must have said something about the funds being transferred.

B) He goes to the post office and sends away his $3300 laptop

C) Paypal calls back ( ? ) and says "OH SHI- DON'T SEND THE LAPTOP"

Now, the OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've gathered from his posts thus far.

This means he's out $3300/a $3300 laptop, at the end of the day. He didn't get paid, and didn't keep his laptop.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:23 am 
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Lodis4 wrote:
I was curious as well. He keeps the laptop but has to give back the money that was paid for said laptop. Sounds fair to me with the exception of the Paypal fees he may have lost; that would suck but in the end that is the chance you take for selling $3,000 worth of merchandise on the internet.


Like Jipstyle before you, I think you're missing the fact that:

A) He was on the phone with Paypal and they said "Everything looks good, send the lap top" and I expect that must have said something about the funds being transferred.

B) He goes to the post office and sends away his $3300 laptop

C) Paypal calls back ( ? ) and says "OH SHI- DON'T SEND THE LAPTOP"

Now, the OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've gathered from his posts thus far.

This means he's out $3300/a $3300 laptop, at the end of the day. He didn't get paid, and didn't keep his laptop.


Thanks, I just realized I missed an entire second page...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:38 am 
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Lodis4 wrote:
Thanks, I just realized I missed an entire second page...


That'll definitely do it, heh,


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:40 pm 
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Lodis4 wrote:
Thanks, I just realized I missed an entire second page...


That'll definitely do it, heh,


Yeah, I think we all learned a valuable lesson today......


































Monkey's don't read everything :P


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:45 pm 
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hackman2007 wrote:
Yeah, I think we all learned a valuable lesson today......Monkey's don't read everything :P


You sir, have been sig'd.

Enjoy it!

EDIT: Or maybe this version of BB doesn't allow that? Meh, you've been added to my signature in spirit then.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:52 pm 
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Yeah, they diabled signatures around here. I don't know why.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:07 pm 
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They are disabled because the only people who want to read the same lame line of text and wall of images after every post is the person who wrote the sig in the first place.

We have avatars to recognise forum members. If you've got something so witty to say that you need to repeat it after every single post you make .. chances are that you aren't half as witty as you think. ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:11 pm 
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I agree. Signatures are very annoying, plus they make the forums look messy IMO. I wasn't here when they had them anyhow.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:13 pm 
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We've never had sigs here ;)


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