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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:38 pm 
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that Linux guy wrote:
Hell, even with Windows, most people don't really know anything about windows aside from the web-browser, the "Start" button, and Windows Media Player. Everything else is completely foreign to them. All of that crap and more is available with Linux after installation. All they need is something close to looking like a start button (Kubuntu anyone?) and they're golden.


Which leads me into why not everyone is a programmer. We aren't willing to take the time to learn a new language. Programming isn't a hobby because of this. There's no incentive to do it.


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I know several hobbyist programmers ... hell, I AM one. My job isn't in development, but I write lots of code in my spare time for fun.

Just an adult puzzle or sudoku, really.

Hell, the OSS scene is 90% hobbyists ... programmers, engineers, and other people writing code at home for fun rather than profit.


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Jipstyle wrote:
I know several hobbyist programmers ... hell, I AM one. My job isn't in development, but I write lots of code in my spare time for fun.

Just an adult puzzle or sudoku, really.

Hell, the OSS scene is 90% hobbyists ... programmers, engineers, and other people writing code at home for fun rather than profit.


However, compared to other known hobbies, how large is programming? (sports do count as a hobby, if you aren't doing it professionally)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:11 pm 
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you don't need a computer science degree to be an efficient Linux user.
You maybe need to know 10 commands, and even those aren't "required" they just make things easier. With Distros like Ubuntu, you really don't need
to know anything, if you can download and install programs like firefox in windows, you can install Ubuntu.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:32 pm 
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Dwood15 wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
I know several hobbyist programmers ... hell, I AM one. My job isn't in development, but I write lots of code in my spare time for fun.

Just an adult puzzle or sudoku, really.

Hell, the OSS scene is 90% hobbyists ... programmers, engineers, and other people writing code at home for fun rather than profit.


However, compared to other known hobbies, how large is programming? (sports do count as a hobby, if you aren't doing it professionally)


7,240,000 results for "programming as a hobby"
vs
240,000 for "coin collecting as a hobby]coin collecting as a hobby"
vs
1,310,000 for "woodworking as a hobby"


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:17 am 
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Of course, those search results are inherently biased by the technology you're using. ;)


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People assume the only "way" is with Windows. Firefox is generally the same as Firefox in Windows...albeit for some Windows specific coding and Flash.

For the amount of money people spend on "securing" their computers they could learn how to double click an icon they are already familiar with.


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Of coarse if you search with the quotes, you only end up with 4,910

Maybe that explains why the activity at our local linux group is fairly low.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:07 am 
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Jipstyle wrote:
Of course, those search results are inherently biased by the technology you're using. ;)
quite you!


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that Linux guy wrote:
I once knew someone who said they liked Windows ME, but I can't remember who they are. I think right after that statement, I banished them from my life completely. :lol:


I'm using Windows ME right now. I hope that doesn't mean that we can't be friends... :)


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teh 1337 haxxor wrote:
that Linux guy wrote:
I once knew someone who said they liked Windows ME, but I can't remember who they are. I think right after that statement, I banished them from my life completely. :lol:


I'm using Windows ME right now. I hope that doesn't mean that we can't be friends... :)


Lol. Nah, We're cool! :D


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Linux ppl suck!





*bye now*


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Lodis4 wrote:
Linux ppl suck!





*bye now*


Great response. :roll:


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Lodis4 wrote:
Linux ppl suck!







Pray elucidate.


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I think both of you need your sarcasm detectors tuned up. Either that or he just proved a point about folks that run Linux! :lol:


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bigtoyota479 wrote:
I think both of you need your sarcasm detectors tuned up. Either that or he just proved a point about folks that run Linux! :lol:
Oh Snap!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:53 am 
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I don't use Linux day to day. Bye the bye. Can anybody recommend a good IM client for Linux that will let me use a web cam?


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Skype for Linux


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TheSimulatorGuy wrote:
I don't use Linux day to day. Bye the bye. Can anybody recommend a good IM client for Linux that will let me use a web cam?


I'm pretty sure Pidgin can do it. I haven't had a web cam in a while, so I can't say personally.

The court ordered me to never own a webcam again. :)


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The court ordered me to never own a webcam again. :)


After what happened last time I can't say that I blame them. That goat is still in counseling.

I would echo BigT's suggestion and use Skype for Linux.


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