Quantcast

Maximum PC

It is currently Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:20 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: problem with bootable usb flash drive
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:19 pm 
8086
8086

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:38 pm
Posts: 9
My computer stopped reading my usb flashdrive. I was trying to install ubuntu on it using the instructions here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/04/09 ... m-windows/ Everything worked fine until i finished. When I tried to boot from the drive i just got a black screen with a flashing white cursor. When I booted into windows it didn't recognize the drive. It showed up under "Safely Remove Hardware" but not under my computer or Drive Manager. Is my drive shot or is there a way I can get it to work again? The drive is a Super Talent Pico C 8gb and the computer is an HP dv6700 with Vista.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:27 pm 
[Team Member]
[Team Member]

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:31 am
Posts: 11078
Location: Home Sweet Home
They use ext3 for formating the drive when you install Linux and windows can't read it. Windows 2000 thru vista uses NTFS for a file system.

If the drive shows up in windows management just format it in NTFS.

Nasty


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:04 pm 
8086
8086

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:38 pm
Posts: 9
So its ext3 even though I formatted it FAT32 first with the hp software? Regardless shouldn't I be able to boot from the flash drive? How come I am not able to?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:11 pm 
Willamette
Willamette
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:29 am
Posts: 1447
1) it probably reformatted it to ext3 when you went through the install process.

2) Do you know for sure you can boot from that flash drive on your computer? I assume so since you got the blank screen. Next, does Ubuntu support your flash drive, etc?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:36 pm 
[Team Member]
[Team Member]

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:31 am
Posts: 11078
Location: Home Sweet Home
This is how to setup a bootable usb flash drive:

http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-u ... on-usb-bar

Nasty


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:57 pm 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Nastyman wrote:
This is how to setup a bootable usb flash drive:

http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-u ... on-usb-bar

Nasty


I may be off target here but the link mentions:

Quote:
1. Requirements
In order to reproduce this tutorial, you will need a few items such as:

a ubuntu liveCD
a usb bar of at least 1G
a running Linux operating system


The last requirment is a running Linux OS and the mentioned commands in the link are Linux? :?

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:07 pm 
[Team Member]
[Team Member]

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:31 am
Posts: 11078
Location: Home Sweet Home
Reloadron wrote:
Nastyman wrote:
This is how to setup a bootable usb flash drive:

http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-u ... on-usb-bar

Nasty


I may be off target here but the link mentions:

Quote:
1. Requirements
In order to reproduce this tutorial, you will need a few items such as:

a ubuntu liveCD
a usb bar of at least 1G
a running Linux operating system


The last requirment is a running Linux OS and the mentioned commands in the link are Linux? :?

Ron


You read it right Ron, I haven't found a way to do it from windows...yet...but I am a lookin'.

Nasty

Edit: Ureckia! I found a way...very complicated though.

http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-li ... drive.html

Instructions:

http://penlinux.com/articles/put-linux- ... drive.html


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:35 pm 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Just for the heck of it I am trying it using the link the original poster tried. The other day we were in Wal-Mart and they had a mountain of 2 GB Kingston pen drives for about five bucks each so I tossed on in the cart. Forgot about it till I read this thread.

So I downloaded the HP tool and formatted the 2 GB as FAT32, then downloaded Ub8convert2.exe and let it do its thing. Now I have the Ubuntu 8.04.1 ISO downloading to the created folder, all 600 + something MB of it. Muddling along at about 23% right now so we shall see how it goes.

This is my older everyday machine and soon to be replaced with my new build so it is a little slow. I'll have to screw with the BIOS as I am like 99% this system allows booting from USB. I hope the hell it does anyway. :lol:

Then we shall see if this works?

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:38 pm 
[Team Member]
[Team Member]

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:31 am
Posts: 11078
Location: Home Sweet Home
I'm interested Ron, let us know if it worked for you.

Nasty


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:07 pm 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Well here is where I am at.

Sort of worked! :lol:

The first try when I formatted the pen drive I wasn't thinking and used the HP tool and formatted as FAT (not FAT32). I set the system to boot form USB first and the thing took right off and I got the Ubuntu splash screen with options. I chose just run it (something like that). It has problems with LIB (Library) files.

OK, I figure I'll try again. This time I format as FAT32 and redo the process, everything extracts fine (that can take a few min) and I follow the prompts again to complete the pen drive including making it bootable.

This time the machine likes it less? Go figure? :?

Now the system just gets to it and reboots. I don't see anything and the system is in a loop of rebooting till I pull the pen drive out.

However, if I lookie at the pen drive in My Computer all the files ate there including the AutoRun pointing to what seems to be the right file to make things go.

Been a long day driving back from our holiday travels so I took a few Advil PM and have an appointment with the Sand Man. Damn neck has been bugging me. I'll get back on this in the morning. Advil or Tylenol PM render me useless (but I sleep damn well).

I see some possibilities with this.

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:28 am 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Well it worked just fine.

I reformatted the flash drive and went back to choosing FAT rather than FAT32. When booting it even offers the options of booting from the hard drives in the system which would boot Windows XP.

Running off the flash drive things are really pretty fast. Pretty slick overall. It also has a few Open Office applications in it.

Exactly why it works following a few failures I don't know but several boots later it works every time? This post is being done using it (Firefox).

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:32 am 
[Team Member]
[Team Member]

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:31 am
Posts: 11078
Location: Home Sweet Home
Thanks for the feedback Ron. Hope the neck feels better this morning. :shock: I just may get off my rear and go to Wallmart and see if they still have any pen drives on sale and pick one up to play with.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:47 am 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Nastyman wrote:
Thanks for the feedback Ron. Hope the neck feels better this morning. :shock: I just may get off my rear and go to Wallmart and see if they still have any pen drives on sale and pick one up to play with.


In what I have read, doing this with Unbuntu the system can be fussy about the flash drive used. San Disk seems popular. My experiment did work (finally) with a Kingston Traveler.

Whenever we are out shopping if I see a bucket or bin of something selling for nothing (like five bucks or less) I snag a few if I think someday it may come in handy.

My guess on the original post is the BIOS was not pointing to a USB boot?

The links you provided are actually a better choice as is a link from the original posted link in that they allow writting to and modifying the install.

This link:

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08 ... -tutorial/

allows a persistent install. Also, there are a few caveats if this is to be done on a Vista system.

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:36 am 
8086
8086

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:38 pm
Posts: 9
Thanks for the help. I burned an Ubuntu Live CD and booted from to see if it would recognize the flash drive. Still no luck. Yes I did have the bios set to boot from a usb. So does anyone no how to get my flash drive to show up on a computer so I can reformat it?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:42 am 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Kusbit6600 wrote:
Thanks for the help. I burned an Ubuntu Live CD and booted from to see if it would recognize the flash drive. Still no luck. Yes I did have the bios set to boot from a usb. So does anyone no how to get my flash drive to show up on a computer so I can reformat it?


Did you download and try the HP formatting tool?

http://files.filefront.com/SP27608exe/; ... einfo.html

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:25 pm 
Team Member Top 10
Team Member Top 10
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:40 pm
Posts: 2653
Lord... what a mess we have here :D

Download Ubuntu 8.10! Boot using the Live CD & use the built in tool. If it doesn't work on your laptop then use another PC.
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/11/01 ... installer/


Does your PC recognize other USB storage devices?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:34 pm 
8086
8086

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:38 pm
Posts: 9
Yes my computer reads other usb devices like my WD passport hard drive. The problem is I can't get the USB flash drive to show up in any way that will let me format it or change the files on it. It shows up in device manager but that's it. I used a live CD of Ubuntu 8.04 and it didn't show up with that either. When I get home tomorrow (visiting family) I will try it with Windows XP and my permanent Ubuntu install.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:06 am 
Team Member Top 10
Team Member Top 10
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:40 pm
Posts: 2653
Why don't you use 8.10 and the built in installer from the live cd?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:01 am 
Team Member [Top 500]*
Team Member [Top 500]*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 8720
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
I am beginning to wonder if the pen drive you have is any good?

Ron


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:40 am 
8086
8086

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:38 pm
Posts: 9
The reason I don't use the installer from the 8.10 live CD is because I still can't get the flash drive to show up on any computer. That is the problem.


Top
  Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group