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1. The install, you don't download the install files and run, the installer downloads the files... that is a major fucking bad move.


whys that bad? i personally don't like it, but whys it so bad?


My guess is because if Google's servers get hacked, it will download malware instead of the right setup files ;)


How is that different from someone hacking the server and replacing the files that you download all at once?


When you download the files yourself, you are more likely to watch what you are downloading. However, when the files are automatically downloaded, most people don't even look twice and will just ignore whatever their security software is throwing at them (personal experience with "regular" people).


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1. The install, you don't download the install files and run, the installer downloads the files... that is a major fucking bad move.


whys that bad? i personally don't like it, but whys it so bad?


My guess is because if Google's servers get hacked, it will download malware instead of the right setup files ;)


How is that different from someone hacking the server and replacing the files that you download all at once?


When you download the files yourself, you are more likely to watch what you are downloading. However, when the files are automatically downloaded, most people don't even look twice and will just ignore whatever their security software is throwing at them (personal experience with "regular" people).


Yep, when running windoze it pays to be paranoid :(


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Personally, I think for a first release browser, they've hit a homer. It's basic, light and fast. Everything we first loved when Mozilla came out. Firefox took some time to develop into the awesome product it is today.

Hell, if Microsoft made a first release OS like Windows ME, Xp or Vista that worked as well as Google's first release has here, OpenSource wouldn't be anywhere near as large as it is today.


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I've enjoyed it so far. I'm glad they are making a lot of it open source, maybe Firefox can integrate some of the innovative features.

That said, I do have one minor complaint. Why they heck can't I use the middle mouse button to scroll? If they fix that then I might switch completely to it.


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You can download the entire source for Chrome .. thus, it is entirely open source.
There are third-party components, but they aren't the browser itself and a cursory (ie, imcomplete) glance at the source suggests that even the third-party apps are open source. :)

Does anyone else's scroll wheel work properly? Does yours work in other browsers? It can be difficult to tell whether the lack of scrolling is caused by Chrome or by some other problem.


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keep in mind that they are still going to have to cater to people still using FF or *shudders* IE. unless they come out with a "Chrome Only" version, or features that only Chrome can use.


Its open source. That won't happen.


EDIT: Oops. Apparently that was covered all over page 3. :lol:


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Does anyone else's scroll wheel work properly? Does yours work in other browsers? It can be difficult to tell whether the lack of scrolling is caused by Chrome or by some other problem.


Mine works fine across all browsers, including Chrome.

So far, my main complaint has been that in XP Pro, Chrome doesn't automatically set itself up for all users. You have to do it manually. So I did it manually, thinking I'd be all high speed and install it for each account. Well, I installed it on the kids account in XP and it removed it/caused conflict with the install on my main account. This is a laptop. So I go to use Chrome in the kids account and it will not connect to the internet although the other two browsers, IE and FF, do. So I uninstalled it from the kids account, reinstalled for the main account and it now works fine. But trying to put a shortcut to it in All Users or by copying and pasting it to a sub account's desktop, it still won't work properly.

I haven't checked this out in Vista yet.


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Jipstyle wrote:
Does anyone else's scroll wheel work properly? Does yours work in other browsers? It can be difficult to tell whether the lack of scrolling is caused by Chrome or by some other problem.


Rolling my wheel works fine, but it doesn't let you scroll by clicking it in. I've tried it on 3 computers and it doesn't work on any of them. But like I said, it's just a minor complaint.


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Does anyone else's scroll wheel work properly? Does yours work in other browsers? It can be difficult to tell whether the lack of scrolling is caused by Chrome or by some other problem.


Rolling my wheel works fine, but it doesn't let you scroll by clicking it in. I've tried it on 3 computers and it doesn't work on any of them. But like I said, it's just a minor complaint.


It's a browser setting. See the wrench in the top right for more details about auto scrolling.

Nevermind, those tools have been stripped down.

Google is trying to "macify" things that should have been done ages ago.


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I tried chrome out for a couple hours no major complaints. Needs more firefox-esque add ons but its beta so no biggie.

although if my OS and browser had crash notifications that make me LOL I may be less inclined to be angry when it does ride the fail bus

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Does anyone else's scroll wheel work properly? Does yours work in other browsers? It can be difficult to tell whether the lack of scrolling is caused by Chrome or by some other problem.


Rolling my wheel works fine, but it doesn't let you scroll by clicking it in. I've tried it on 3 computers and it doesn't work on any of them. But like I said, it's just a minor complaint.


It's a browser setting. See the wrench in the top right for more details about auto scrolling.

Nevermind, those tools have been stripped down.

Google is trying to "macify" things that should have been done ages ago.


You want people that only know how to use computers insted of running tthem?


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Overall I am happy with the browser.

It is fast, pages display content as I expect them to (on most sites), and the overhead is low.

I also appreciate the built in development tools, tabs at the top, and large viewing area. The status bar and download bar are both welcome browser changes. I also enjoy the resizable text box form elements.

Some other neat features include the "Find" showing where on the scroll bar all the matches are located on the page and the incognito browsing.

I hope that Microsoft recognizes that this is yet another web browser with built in spell checking and that IE8 really needs to have its overhead trimmed down. If this release by Google does nothing more than put pressure on Microsoft to improve their bundled browser... well then I think it is worth the effort.

I have had a few problems with the browser, but I assume that these are the types of beta issues that will be cleared prior to a full version being released.

1) Scrolling is an issue for many people. It works fine for some, but fails for others.

2) Text boxes using the TEXTAREA html tag sometimes have a hard time with showing text as it is being updated. As soon as the cursor is clicked outside of the TEXTAREA the content is updated and looks fine.

3) The bottom scroll bar doesn't always consolidate as quickly or well as it should. It often times remains there even if not needed.

4) It would be great if the options dialog boxes had OK, APPLY, and CANCEL buttons instead of just "Close". Windows users need confirmation that changes are set in place.


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I tried chrome out for a couple hours no major complaints. Needs more firefox-esque add ons but its beta so no biggie.

although if my OS and browser had crash notifications that make me LOL I may be less inclined to be angry when it does ride the fail bus

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Would be way cooler if that said OH SNAPS! Instead of Aw, snap.


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i think it'd be sweet if you could customize an error screen, for a mixed feeling when you're making an order and the browser craps out. "hahahaaawwwww"


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Glad to hear I'm not the only one with scrolling problems. My only other issues so far are that I can't right-click the row/column headers in Google Docs, and that there isn't a more powerful bookmark organizer. Other than than, I'm noticing a noticeable performance increase over FF, especially after leaving the browser open for long periods of time. It also seems to eat up Javascript pages at a much faster speed. The comic strip was right!

Although for the first time I'm experiencing a textbox issue... and it's this one! It's not displaying characters correctly sometimes as I type and/or edit text.


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I checked a recent build to see if the scrolling issue has been addressed. Sadly at this point it has not been fixed.

The latest builds can be found here:
http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snap ... um-rel-xp/

Also there is a person who build a utility that checks for the latest Chrome build and helps you download it:
http://www.mediafire.com/cnu


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drainbread wrote:
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Does anyone else's scroll wheel work properly? Does yours work in other browsers? It can be difficult to tell whether the lack of scrolling is caused by Chrome or by some other problem.


Rolling my wheel works fine, but it doesn't let you scroll by clicking it in. I've tried it on 3 computers and it doesn't work on any of them. But like I said, it's just a minor complaint.


It's a browser setting. See the wrench in the top right for more details about auto scrolling.

Nevermind, those tools have been stripped down.

Google is trying to "macify" things that should have been done ages ago.


You want people that only know how to use computers insted of running tthem?


It's going to happen anyways, might as well do it with an open source platform.


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I installed it, it crashed, I restarted, it crashed again I uninstalled it and went back to FF. If it crashes the first time I fire it up, it's not worth my time.


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I installed it, it crashed, I restarted, it crashed again I uninstalled it and went back to FF. If it crashes the first time I fire it up, it's not worth my time.


Heh .. at least you got it as far as 'it crashed'.

The linux version passes a series of unit tests but doesn't have the ability to launch the application yet. :lol:

Soon, I hope.


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I installed it, it crashed, I restarted, it crashed again I uninstalled it and went back to FF. If it crashes the first time I fire it up, it's not worth my time.


Heh .. at least you got it as far as 'it crashed'.

The linux version passes a series of unit tests but doesn't have the ability to launch the application yet. :lol:

Soon, I hope.


It's just a browser, unless it has some "Once you use them you can't live without" features, like tabbed browsing was to firefox, that the other browsers don't have yet, it's not worth it to me.

I actually like firefox in Linux better then the Windows version.


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