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 Post subject: HP Care Pack Nightmare
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:39 am 
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On Saturday, my HP's hard drive crashed. Thankfully, I have a back-up. That's the good news. The bad news is that it looks like the hard drive needs to be replaced (... or not ....). "Not to worry," I said to myself. It's my business machine and I've taken the extra step to purchase a Care Pack. (see the care pack at http://forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com/2 ... files.html )

I thought the language on the web site and on the certificate was quite clear. I spent almost a third of the price of the machine for this 3 year service. The description seems unequivocal: if something happens they will come and get it, repair/replace it, and get it back to me within 3 days. My problem happened on a weekend, so I had to wait until Monday morning to call (standard business day). Then the real problems began.

I want to preface this next part by saying that I have had excellent service from overseas call centres in the past. My bank, my credit card, Microsoft, and others have all treated me fairly and with respect. I have been able to get to the heart of the matter, resolve it, and be on my way fairly quickly. Until today ...

Call begins Monday morning, 08:05 PST. Automated voice prompts now take the place of the old "press 3 for ..." So, after a minute or so of prompts, I get to a human voice. It turns out that the automated service incorrectly routed my call. No worries, I'll connect you. On hold ... A few minutes later, and I get an English proficient male technician. He works down his check list and then offers to ship a hard drive to me. I mention that I have paid for depot service (see above). He disagrees. We talk about it some more. I want the machine looked at by them, rather than have them send me an endless supply of spare parts (taking the process into weeks and months). That's why I paid the premium for depot service. He "can't help me" because A) my machine was not supposed to be sold in the US (Canadian serial number) and B) they have different info about my Care Pack. I escalate the call to his supervisor.

The Supervisor goes through his "angry caller mitigation check list." My computer still is not in route to the depot. It's now 09:35 and I've got to go. Besides, my old cordless' battery is almost dead. I'm on hold ... then get disconnected. I call back, get routed to the wrong group, get put on hold whilst transferring ... and this is taking way too long. I've got to go.

I get on the road and call from my cell phone (risky ... dropped calls). I reach a limited English proficient technician. I give her my ticket number. She proceeds to tell me that it will take 2 days to ship me a box. After that, I should see my machine back in up to 2 weeks. I try to explain the care pack again. When this doesn't work, I ask for the supervisor.

I manage to get an e-mail address to send the scan of the certificate to HP. I get a generic pop address, so I have no way of knowing if this will ever get anywhere. I get placed on hold for another 20 minutes. I get disconnected (probably as a courtesy).

It's 10:10 and I'm back on the phone again. I manage to get another limited English proficient (and hard of hearing) technician. He offers to send me a hard drive. I reluctantly accept. He wants my credit card info; just in case I decide to keep the broken part. No problem. Two and a half hours later, I have a order confirmation for a spare part. I didn't feel like hiring an attorney to argue my case on the depot service any further.

... 24 hours later ...

HP shipped the replacement hard drive to the wrong address entirely (they chose to ship the drive to an old billing address that they had on file - why?) and shipped the software discs that are supposed to come with the drive separately - misspelling my street name badly and omitting the suite number. What is wrong with this company?

Now I am on hold again, trying to get yet another call center person to spell an English street name correctly (I even go so far as to use the phonetic alpahbet - T Tom ... O Oscar ... P Paul - is there an applicable American / Indian Phonetic alphabet somewhere on-line). I don't mean to offend, but communication is clearly the key when doing business with your customers. They don't offer an on-line option for this, all tech support of this nature must go through their call centres (overseas). If I could just fill out a form and submit the info to them, then call ... this would be so much easier.

Total time on the phone with this issue: 3 hours 22 minutes and counting.[url][/url]


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 Post subject: 24 hours later
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:55 am 
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... later in the day ...

The discs came to the office and the drive was shipped to my house. In the end, everything arrived. That's the good news. The bad news is that they shipped the wrong sort of drive. The old drive, a Seagate, did not have a metal shroud over the top. The replacement drive, a Toshiba, does have a metal shroud. It plugs into the empty space, but the case cover won't close.

Another call to tech support. Whilst on hold, I power on the unit and run the hard drive test. I want to see if the laptop will fail as before with the new drive installed. The test should take 45 minutes to perform.

Calls routing, transferring, and hold times as usual, I get an agent. We reinvent the customer service wheel and I proceed to give him all of the information that has been given over and over ... ad nauseum. In this time, the unit powers off as before. I let the agent know and we begin to arrange for depot service.

But wait. In the middle of our conversation, his system begins to update. He can do nothing to help me. He takes my number and assures me that this process usually takes an hour. He'll call me back. An hour later, he calls to say that the system is still updating. 45 minutes after that, he calls again.

He needs to ship a box to me, but by this time of the day, HP's Fedex pick-up has already occurred. The box won't ship today. I've lost another day.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:30 am 
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Man, I feel your pain brother.

I have a ZD8000. When mine had to go in for a motherboard replacement, it took an unusually long amount of time to get it shipped to them in the first place. The shipping box they sent me went to an address I hadn't lived at for over 6 years, regardless of the fact I had given them my current addy on the phone. Once they received it, they sent me an email saying it would cost $775 to replace the mobo. After a few emails, and two phone conversations, I thought we were clear that the accidental damage coverage I had purchased covered the fact that I fried my mobo. My daughter did actually, but that's a different story.

Anyway, two weeks after I sent it in, I get the laptop back, unrepaired, just in time for my business trip. After another series of phone calls, I was sent another box. This time, through the gates of holy customer service, a miracle was handed down. My wife received a "Premiere Customer" overnight shipping box the next day. She put my laptop in it and handed the box back to the FedEx guy. The second miracle handed down was my computer was shipped back to me, on the road, over night express just 6 days later. On a Saturday no less! It has worked fine ever since then.

But I was lucky in that I got a native English speaking tech on the phone after getting it back the first time. When I got it back the first time, it had a receipt in the box stating, "Customer refused to pay for replacement of mainboard. No repairs performed at this time. Unit out of warranty, customer induced failure."

This sheet was stapled to the copy of my accidental damage protection paperwork that (should have) covered the damage in the first place. :evil:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:26 pm 
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Hey bud, sorry to hear of all these problems with HP.. Unusual, but real...

I had my share of problems with them, but not to the extend that you had...

A suggestion that I can make for you, if you want... I know most of the time you will probably are talking to someone with substandard English skills... well corporate America's way downsizing... Your best bet is to ask for the immediate supervisor or manager and insist for immediate response and you stand a chance to accelerate fixing your problem..

At one instance I end up writing a letter and e-mail directly to HP's corporate office and what was very strange or may be blessing in the sky, I had this problem solved in 24 hours... The problem was with high end laser printer that failed after few weeks and I had new one at our door step right away and with call tag for them to pick up this defective unit...

May be you should contact their corporate and do the same.. It sure worked for me :D


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 Post subject: ... Now it's Friday ... One week gone ...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:16 am 
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I still don't have the box to return my unit to the depot for repair. I've received all sorts of apologies from call center employees. None of this changes the fact that a week has gone by and they don't even have my laptop to repair.

The order status page does not list the box as being sent or give a tracking number. A call to the service center and I get the tracking number. They shipped it a day late, and late in the day so it didn't make it in for next day service. More time lost.

What on earth is wrong with HP?

I've received a few comments on this topic. Many folks have had the same issues with HP. Comforting, but what does it say about this company? Have they completely lost touch with their customer base?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:49 am 
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WOW, this sucks. Sorry about all that trouble, HP should be ashamed! We don't buy HP laptops where I work but we do buy desktops and have never has this kind of trouble with a repair.



Not to pimp another manufacturer but Lenovo (laptops) shipped me a box overnight with an overnight call tag to the repair depot and overnighted it back. Total time for machine repair 3 days and I was off to the races again.


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 Post subject: It's now Wednesday, 12/26/2007 - still no solution
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:46 pm 
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Taking a good suggestion from the Dog Pound forum, on the 21st I posted a e-mail through HP's system to their CEO and President Mark Hurd. I explained my troubles, the Care Pack issues, as well as his company's complete customer service meltdown. This afternoon, I received an automated response:

Dear Jim,

On behalf of Hewlett-Packard we apologize for the difficulties you are experiencing. Your message has been forwarded to our Customer Escalation team who will review your case.

If there is more you would like to add, do not hesitate to call the HP Executive office in Palo Alto, California, Monday through Friday, 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM pacific time by dialing 1-800 ...

Sincerely,

CEO Customer Relations

Just a few minutes later, I received another automated e-mail from the customer service center. My laptop had arrived at the service centre. With them taking a two day Christmas holiday and with them taking two days to deliver the shipping box, it's been 10 days now since my first call. Ten days and they've just received the dead laptop.

I click on the link to check the order status page and find that they expect that I will receive my laptop back on the 4th of January. A full three weeks (I'll grant them Christmas and New Year, but most businesses remain open on the eves - HP doesn't) to get my laptop after paying a premium for 3 day depot service? How can a company provide such dismal service and remain in business? I wonder what the escalation team will have to say, if they can work up the nerve to call. Will they offer apologies? Will they offer my money back on the depot service vs. standard 3 year warranty? We'll see. Stay tuned.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:23 pm 
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Ouch............


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 Post subject: an update
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:48 pm 
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I received a sweet surprise today. My HP laptop arrived. I say surprise because yesterday my "service manager" called to assure me that he (in Texas) was personally overseeing my repair (in California). He tried to reassure me that I would definitely have my laptop back by the 4th of January.

This morning, my laptop came with the day's Fedex. As much as I appreciate the early delivery (sarcasm intended), HPs communication problems will continue to cause them to lose customers (like me).

The repair sheet lists a new hard drive and a new heat sink/fan assembly. Small problem ... the laptop left with an 80GB hard drive and arrived back drive slightly smaller.

Once again, I am on hold with HP India ...

... 63 minutes later, I've spoken with 3 people in India and Nick in Oregon. Nick has sent a replacement HD that should arrive next week. Nick tried very hard to restore my faith in HP. I wish that HP had more tech staff like Nick so that my calls wouldn't get routed overseas and my problems would get solved in 3 days (as opposed to 3 weeks).


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 Post subject: Re: HP Care Pack Nightmare
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:08 pm 
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I had my share of problems with them, but not to the extend that you had. I know most of the time you will probably are talking to someone with substandard English skills... well corporate America's way downsizing... Your best bet is to ask for the immediate supervisor or manager and insist for immediate response and you stand a chance to accelerate fixing your problem


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 Post subject: Re: HP Care Pack Nightmare
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:11 am 
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Same here, last year on my HP Laptop. BUT...only took a day, and the FedEx delivery driver waited to take my laptop back with him. BUT going thru the phone cue to get the box and shipping information was a nightmare for myself as well. BUT on the plus side HP Ohio did a fantastic job on the repair. :)


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