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 Post subject: Get ready for more robust Windows scripting...
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:43 am 
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Introducing Microsoft Shell (MSH) code-named Monad

In particular, check out the preview/demo in the following link:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/seminar/share ... nifest.xml

(Be sure to jump straight to "Enter the Programmer")

This can also be reached through the 2nd link listed below:


http://www.developer.com/net/article.php/3286851
http://msdn.microsoft.com/theshow/episo ... efault.asp
http://www.codeguru.com/Cpp/misc/misc/m ... php/c3767/


Register for the MSH Beta
http://blogs.msdn.com/karstenj/archive/ ... 66334.aspx


This technology is going to smoke! I expect that it will be backported to at least XP/2003, but possibly to 2000 as well. I relies on .NET v2.0


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 Post subject: Re: Get ready for more robust Windows scripting...
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:13 pm 
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Logik! wrote:
Introducing Microsoft Shell (MSH) code-named Monad

In particular, check out the preview/demo in the following link:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/seminar/share ... nifest.xml

(Be sure to jump straight to "Enter the Programmer")

This can also be reached through the 2nd link listed below:


http://www.developer.com/net/article.php/3286851
http://msdn.microsoft.com/theshow/episo ... efault.asp
http://www.codeguru.com/Cpp/misc/misc/m ... php/c3767/


Register for the MSH Beta
http://blogs.msdn.com/karstenj/archive/ ... 66334.aspx


This technology is going to smoke! I expect that it will be backported to at least XP/2003, but possibly to 2000 as well. I relies on .NET v2.0


Long time no type Mr. LogiK!

I will check it out. :)

You posted this to tick off Gadget didn't you :twisted:

Is this originally just for longhorn? Nevermind, I will check it out.

see ya

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 Post subject: Re: Get ready for more robust Windows scripting...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:46 am 
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You posted this to tick off Gadget didn't you :twisted:

haha... :)

Don't you have some important hacking to do? That is socially important? At 3AM... for free.... in your underwear?

Because that is how real 'hackers' do it. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Get ready for more robust Windows scripting...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:59 am 
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Logik! wrote:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/seminar/shared/asp/view.asp?url=/theshow/en/episode043/manifest.xml

(Be sure to jump straight to "Enter the Programmer")

2 hours of FUD! Evil! OMG you should be banned!

Enter the Programmer starts at about the 49th minute. :)

Well, this is an impressive jump on at least two levels (and I haven't finished watching the whole thing). First, the command line w/o the commandlets looks to be as full featured as VMS or Unix. Pipes, aliases, redirection.... all there. Good Stuff. If they haven't fixed the copy and move commands.... nevermind.

Second, this is a very interesting use of reflection. I would like to get my hands on that laptop and play with it some. Try to figure out the boundaries and other potential uses. I have some nagging questions like why and how is a process an object, are parts of the os oop now, does this only work for .NET code, what apps can be piped and/or redirected, can't someone use reflection to reverse engineer or hack your code(!), etc. But for now, I won't hate... just congratulate. Piping like that into the spreadsheet was pretty damn cool. More good stuff.

I'll finish watching the whole thing tommorow and see what else I can find out.

Before I go.... that unix, sql, framework commentary was a bit, um, off and strange (maybe off the cuff?). But the Java comment was funny....

Well, um, Java has.. some.. support for reflection....
...but the nice thing about .net is the multiple languages


Translation:
<w/ MS .NET 2.0 brain scan technology>

Well, Java has.. some.. support for reflection....
<OMG! Why did I say that... Bill is going to fire my ass for admiting that....>
<the other guy: WTF is that dumbass saying?! I have a family! My kids! My dreams!>

...but the nice thing about .net is the multiple languages....
<phew! uh, that was too close.... I hope they can't see that spot on my pants>
<the other guy: oh thank God! What's that smell?>
<both: haha... that was a good one... our own VB programmers still don't get OOP much less reflection>

/me wakes up
OMG!!! Chams, no more VB in here - NONE!

VB is a Windows business application language technology, or whatever the hell Wolf calls it, it belongs in the Windows folder. Not here!


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 Post subject: Re: Get ready for more robust Windows scripting...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:49 pm 
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Gadget wrote:
Translation:
<w/ MS .NET 2.0 brain scan technology>

Well, Java has.. some.. support for reflection....
<OMG! Why did I say that... Bill is going to fire my ass for admiting that....>
<the other guy: WTF is that dumbass saying?! I have a family! My kids! My dreams!>

...but the nice thing about .net is the multiple languages....
<phew! uh, that was too close.... I hope they can't see that spot on my pants>
<the other guy: oh thank God! What's that smell?>
<both: haha... that was a good one... our own VB programmers still don't get OOP much less reflection>

/me wakes up
OMG!!! Chams, no more VB in here - NONE!


Funniest Quote ever.

But seriously, it's about time. Most of the *nix's have had most of this type of stuff for a while. And yeah it's FUD. Or at least smells like it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:19 pm 
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Very interesting stuff, Logik! Thanks. :D


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:43 pm 
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Makes you wonder since MS hasn't exactly had a wintastic month....
  • SP2 rollout issues
  • The firewall that can be remotely 'turned off'
  • Patches that can now be 'spoofed'
  • Winfs will not be included in the initial Longhorn release

On an interesting side note, I just found out tonight that one of my old fraternity brothers works at MS! Kind of surprised me, since I didn't think he would amount to much of anything - outside of some excellent bar stories. He must have told Balmer the right joke at the right time or something.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:45 pm 
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Gadget wrote:
Makes you wonder since MS hasn't exactly had a wintastic month....
  • SP2 rollout issues
  • The firewall that can be remotely 'turned off'
  • Patches that can now be 'spoofed'
  • Winfs will not be included in the initial Longhorn release
On an interesting side note, I just found out tonight that one of my old fraternity brothers works at MS! Kind of surprised me, since I didn't think he would amount to much of anything - outside of some excellent bar stories. He must have told Balmer the right joke at the right time or something.


Hmmmm. :twisted: that means we can get the good inside info on MS. We now have a mole. LOL sorry could not resist.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:37 pm 
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baldeagle wrote:
Gadget wrote:
Makes you wonder since MS hasn't exactly had a wintastic month....
  • SP2 rollout issues
  • The firewall that can be remotely 'turned off'
  • Patches that can now be 'spoofed'
  • Winfs will not be included in the initial Longhorn release
On an interesting side note, I just found out tonight that one of my old fraternity brothers works at MS! Kind of surprised me, since I didn't think he would amount to much of anything - outside of some excellent bar stories. He must have told Balmer the right joke at the right time or something.


Hmmmm. :twisted: that means we can get the good inside info on MS. We now have a mole. LOL sorry could not resist.

I still can't believe they hired him. I'm sure someone is going to lose their job over this.

I like the idea. A band of unknown, and largely unrelated, engineers forming an insider trading ring of some of the worlds largest tech companies. Hmm. Might actually work assuming 'business types' and lawyers are shunned like vermin. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:18 pm 
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Gadget wrote:
I like the idea. A band of unknown, and largely unrelated, engineers forming an insider trading ring of some of the worlds largest tech companies. Hmm. Might actually work assuming 'business types' and lawyers are shunned like vermin. :)


Like a Hacker Illuminati?

I like! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:09 pm 
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Jipstyle wrote:

Like a Hacker Illuminati?

I like! :twisted:


Sounds scarry! :shock: Once everythings networked, they can take over the world! Muwahahahaha!!!!! :twisted:

Imagine being able to reprogram Bill Gate's toaster to always burn the toast! :lol:


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That's too obvious.

I'd hack into his home network, and patch up every piece of software so his computers never crash.

Within a week, he'll be insane.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:49 am 
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Jipstyle wrote:
That's too obvious.

I'd hack into his home network, and patch up every piece of software so his computers never crash.

Within a week, he'll be insane.


If he is using MS products, doesn't already crash? Especially with SP2?

They have started testing SP2 at my workplace. They have only placed it on a few PC. And someone placed it on some that were not allowed, my guess is another instructor. Now IE will not properly finish deleting Internet files like before. It just hangs there forever and if you try to close it yourself it crashes.


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baldeagle wrote:
If he is using MS products, doesn't already crash? Especially with SP2?


That's what I'm saying. I'd fix his PCs so they DON'T crash.

MUahahahahaah.

He'll be confused to the end of his days.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:07 pm 
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Imagine being able to reprogram Bill Gate's toaster to always burn the toast! :lol:


Xbill: The Game. Except good ol' Bill turns computers INTO toasters (not too far from the truth... (Please don't ban me for this;)).


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