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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:41 am 
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I've not been paying attention to AMD lately. I have two AMD systems, a Gigabyte nForce2 and a Soyo KT400 (I think. Might be a KT600).

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I have a spare 1800+ laying around not doing anything, and I'd like to see what it can do. I also have a 2500+ that I can swap with the 1800+ in the Soyo board. So I'm looking for a good AMD overclocking board that I can experiment with.


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I have the ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe (nForce 2) with the 2500+. I've easily oc'd to 2.2GHz by boosting the FSB to 200 MHz.

You can easily change voltage, FSB and memory timings in the BIOS. If you unlock the CPU then the same can be said about the CPU's multiplier.

Tons of features on that board as well. Dual ethernet (10/100 and gigabit), 5.1 surround, SATA RAID, Dual Channel, 6 USB and firewire.


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If OC'ing is your main function forget Asus, that BIOS is utter crap IMO.
Antyhing else would be more convenient BIOS-wise.

I prefer the ability of the DFI(Infinity or Lan Party) boards to save a BIOS configuration. Abit of course is always a good overclocker. At this point there are so many MFG's though that have the nF2 behaving correctly and have the ability to OC very well. Those would just be my 2 preferences.


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If OC'ing is your main function forget Asus, that BIOS is utter crap IMO.
Antyhing else would be more convenient BIOS-wise.

I prefer the ability of the DFI(Infinity or Lan Party) boards to save a BIOS configuration. Abit of course is always a good overclocker. At this point there are so many MFG's though that have the nF2 behaving correctly and have the ability to OC very well. Those would just be my 2 preferences.


Is Asus using an AMI bios on their AMD boards as well? I thought it was just the Intel board I have.

I'll take a look at DFI. I've never used them though.


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Phoenix Award on the A7N8X. I was pleased w/ it when I owned it. I got a decent OC w/ some PC3000 RAM and don't recall having any major complaints.

Look here for lots of pictures of the BIOS on that mobo:
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I think I'm gonna go with an Abit NF-7M nforce2. Or maybe the AN-7 for a couple bucks more.


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don't get the AN7 if you want to OC. its a fine board, but the NF7-S is THE abit board for overclocking.

I have an NF7-S rev2.0, and there is great support for BIOS's for this board. just head over to http://forums.pcper.com/ and scroll down to the Abit section.

There are a few guys in there that have developed a ton of custom bioses for this board. They've even taken portions out of the DFI bioses and incorporated them into the Abit Bios for higher front side bus performance, and have versions that are created to work better with specific types of memory (double sided vs. single sided dimms).

its a little confusing at first. There is a sticky at the top, and an active thread regarding Merlin's newest D25 BIOS's (based on Abit's latest D2.5 release) that will get you started.

So if you want to overclock with Abit, get an NF7-S!!

Otherwise, take a look at the DFI infinity series.

One advantage of the DFI boards is that the vdimm goes up to 3.3v, which is great for getting your memory the juice needed to run those higher FSB settings.

the NF7 vdimm only goes up to 2.9v. But there are mods to run it off the 3.3v rail and get the additional voltage, if you are handy with a soldering gun.


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Thanks for the heads up.

I'm thinking now I'll use the 1800+ in my server and see which Barton (2500+ or 2800+) clocks better and use that for my main rig. The other one will be a dedicated folder.


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HK-47 wrote:
I think I'm gonna go with an Abit NF-7M nforce2. Or maybe the AN-7 for a couple bucks more.


I didn't like the layout of the BIOS when I had the Asus A7N8X-Deluxe, I don't keep track of BIOS names, so I don't know what it has specifically.

The layout on Abit boards and DFI is much better, or at least what I'm used to I should say(been using Abit to OC since 133A).

I don't know anything about the AN7, but the NF7-S V2.0 has always been a strong performer. I used one of these for awhile too.

In total I have used 4 different nF2 boards. In order of use.

Leadtek
Asus
Abit
DFI

The last 2 were the best overclocking boards. Leadtek sucked at OC but had good features and good package/price. The Abit and DFI reached the same speeds for me, but I give the nudge to the DFI for its CMOS reloaded option. Other than that the performance was identical.

So if your considering Abit then I can only recomend NF7-S as its the only board of theirs I used.


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Yeah, Mike-y set me straight on the Abit boards.

I'm going with the NF-Sv2 which is cheaper at Newegg and whichever clocks better of a 2800+ and 2500+, probably the 2500+ since it's newer.


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Yes newer usually = better chance. Is it a pre-lock or locked barton?


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No idea. I got it a few months ago. I would assume locked.


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If its locked, you can only OC the FSB, and not the multiplier.

just make sure you get some good memory that will overclock with the FSB, a good pair PC3200/DDR400 should be fine.

when I had my 2500+, I ran it at 3200+ speeds pretty easily (2.2ghz) by just raising the FSB to 200 and increasing the voltage core a bit.


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I'd go with the Asus for Amd overclocking.... and not the Deluxe either, there are some variations in the boards, I have the Asus A7n8x rev2
I have an unlocked barton 2600, board reads it as a Athlon xp 2800+, I have had no probs o/c with this board.. My only prob right now is I need to Upgrade my Ram, I am only running 1 gig Pc2700, it is stopping me from going higher overclock, already at 2.19, with multiplier up and fsb up to 169, any higher fsb I have probs, so this leads me to believe Ram is the hold up, I had an 1800+ (and still do actually sitting in its box), o/c to athlon xp 2100+, up to 2200+ with some tweaking but still probs....
Don't go with any Soyo, I have always had major probs with them, had black dragon and platinum dragon, two of each actually before i switched to the Asus, got the extended warranty at Compusa, when the last Soyo went I returned it and used the credit for the Asus, actually got $$ back, as the Asus was cheaper than the Dragon, the only thing I miss about the soyo, was 4 ide slots (8 drives total)..... I would go with the Asus a7n8x rev2 (not deluxe).........
but that is just my opinion, and I have been doing this for quite a while...


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No idea. I got it a few months ago. I would assume locked.


Ya as stated then since it isn't a mobile version and its a locked chip, you will only be able to up that FSB, so get some kick ass ram. Good luck bro.


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Dracos, what memory timings and voltage are you running?

you might have room to OC more if you are able to relax the timings a bit.


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Im using an MSI k7n2 ultra.
I overclocked my 2200+ to 2600+ no problem.
I have crappy memeory which im in the process of replacing.
than ill be able to set my FSB higher.


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my brother's 2nd cpu has a MSI k7n2 ultra also, itz a amd athlon xp 2600+ 1.91g oced to abt 2.32. duno wut cooling he has but i say msi mother boards are the bes for ocing


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I saw on the web that with a DFI Lanparty Ultra board they overclocked the FSB all the way up to 257 MHz. Now that is overclocking.


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