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 Post subject: video card upgrade
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:37 pm 
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am looking to upgrade my video card soon but cannot aford top of the line i currently have a NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB had to replace the fan once on it am looking for something better price between $150-$250 mainly for gaming and future of gaming motherboard supports 8x agp
any recomendations and why?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:17 pm 
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Radeon 9800 Pro

Very good card, all the new games will likely run on it quite well, DX9 support and stuff. Probably the best card you can get for your money.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 286&depa=0


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:21 pm 
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definitely (note that it is spelled correctly) 9800 pro. It is the best bang for buck right now.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:53 pm 
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i vote for 9800 Pro

i have one, love it


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:04 pm 
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well, IF you want to stick to nVidia, you could get the 5900xt. if you're not, then get the 9800pro like all the others said. both have excellent out of the box performance.


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 Post subject: Don't buy nothing yet
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:15 pm 
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I would hold that money. AGP will be replaced by PCI Express, and it is coming up pretty soon, plus there are new chips from both ATI and nVidia that will better tackle DirectX 9 functions, bet you 50 bucks they are coming up in PCI Express flavors only. Not only that, DDR2 is coming, BTX will replace ATX, it's plain nuts! The new Unreal engine, which will probably be here by 2006, will, as of now, have DirectX 9 as minimum requirements! So if you want to plan ahead, I would wait to see how well consumers accept BTX, DDR 2 and PCI Express, and then wait for developers reaction and how they aim at all this new stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Don't buy nothing yet
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:24 pm 
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Mar7in wrote:
I would hold that money. AGP will be replaced by PCI Express, and it is coming up pretty soon, plus there are new chips from both ATI and nVidia that will better tackle DirectX 9 functions, bet you 50 bucks they are coming up in PCI Express flavors only. Not only that, DDR2 is coming, BTX will replace ATX, it's plain nuts! The new Unreal engine, which will probably be here by 2006, will, as of now, have DirectX 9 as minimum requirements! So if you want to plan ahead, I would wait to see how well consumers accept BTX, DDR 2 and PCI Express, and then wait for developers reaction and how they aim at all this new stuff.


You can always get stuck playing the waiting game.

PCI-Express is still a bit out.
BTX looks like it isnt going anywhere fast.
DDR2 is also not THAT close.

Take this as another vote for the 9800 Pro.


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 Post subject: Re: Don't buy nothing yet
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:14 pm 
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Mar7in wrote:
plus there are new chips from both ATI and nVidia that will better tackle DirectX 9 functions, bet you 50 bucks they are coming up in PCI Express flavors only.


I'll take that bet.

Also, the poster asked for a new video card ... not a new system. All of the things you've mentioned require at the least a new motherboard ... BTW will probably require a new case and perhaps a new PS.

At any rate, set aside 50$ to paypal me ... both ATI and nVidia are going to release their next generation of video cards in AGP models ... and you can bet both will continue to do so until (i) AMD switches to PCI-X, (ii) AMD and Intel both ship only PCI-X, and (iii) the AGP installed user base is so small that neither company will see a profit selling to this market.

As a related example, recall how long it took before the mainstream vendors stopped making PCI videocards. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:40 am 
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I would hold that money. AGP will be replaced by PCI Express

not looking to upgrade my system just my videocard
yes i know all about the pci expressand the new chipsets from ati and nvidia but im not looking for top of the line i cant aford 500 for the video card


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:45 am 
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Hey! Sounds good to me! It's just that I myself was looking to upgrade my system, and then was bombarded with all this new hardware stuff, that kind of made me think a little. If your upgrade is not to exceed $300, then a 9800 Pro is the way to go. And dude, I owe you 50 bucks...


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 Post subject: Re: Don't buy nothing yet
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:24 am 
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Mar7in wrote:
I would hold that money. AGP will be replaced by PCI Express, and it is coming up pretty soon, plus there are new chips from both ATI and nVidia that will better tackle DirectX 9 functions, bet you 50 bucks they are coming up in PCI Express flavors only. Not only that, DDR2 is coming, BTX will replace ATX, it's plain nuts! The new Unreal engine, which will probably be here by 2006, will, as of now, have DirectX 9 as minimum requirements! So if you want to plan ahead, I would wait to see how well consumers accept BTX, DDR 2 and PCI Express, and then wait for developers reaction and how they aim at all this new stuff.


yeah, and have you seen how much more expensive these pci-x cards are? cheapest i can find is this card and its a crappy start

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 055&depa=0


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 Post subject: Radeon 9500 PRO 128MB
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:32 pm 
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I am running the 9500 PRO 128MB board. It's not quite as fast as the 9800 line but it is DirectX9.0 compliant and you can pick one up on eBay for under $100. :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:23 pm 
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hmmm... or you could save a bit more for one of those 6800 non ultras at newegg or where ever is the cheapest.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:47 pm 
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Mar7in wrote:
And dude, I owe you 50 bucks...


<homer> Woohoo! </homer>


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 Post subject: 6800 ultra
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:56 pm 
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Where can you get a 6800 ultra made by Nvidia and not by one of its partners?


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 Post subject: Re: 6800 ultra
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:58 pm 
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Where can you get a 6800 ultra made by Nvidia and not by one of its partners?


nVidia doesnt make thier own cards. (except maybe engineering samples)
ATi is going to dump thier productions also (last i heard anyway)


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 Post subject: 6800 power supply
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:01 pm 
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oh ok well i've heard you need a 480 watt power supply for the card, how much is that going to cost, i only have 400 watt right now.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:16 pm 
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Mar7in wrote:
And dude, I owe you 50 bucks...

damn ... shoulda gotten here earlier to take that bet, i could use $50, u still up to make that bet again?


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 Post subject: Re: 6800 power supply
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:28 am 
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pdizzle383 wrote:
oh ok well i've heard you need a 480 watt power supply for the card, how much is that going to cost, i only have 400 watt right now.


I recently bought an Antec True 'Blue' 480W for approx $150 Cnd. / $110 USD. I had to upgrade to the Antec as I was trying to run a sexy Plexy DVD burner on a no-name $30 Cnd. 320W PS. and the system was shutting down when I was in the middle of a burn :x. Needed more juice so I bought the True-Blue. No more system meltdown :D.

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 Post subject: Re: 6800 power supply
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:19 am 
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pdizzle383 wrote:
oh ok well i've heard you need a 480 watt power supply for the card, how much is that going to cost, i only have 400 watt right now.


antec trueblue480 for $79.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 914&depa=0


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