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 Post subject: Help Me Decide
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:04 am 
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I am currently running a AthlonXP 3200, 512 PC2700 ram, 9600XT, sound blaster audigy 2 zs, 260gig HD, 4xDVDrw, 600wt pwr supply and six case fans. My question is that I have $300 to blow and I cant decide what would be better to upgrade first. Any ideas would be great.
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I would get a 6600gt video card and another stick of 512 ram


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What kind of speakers do you have? Otherwise i would go with what Chiller2 said.

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I am running my sound off of my 800 watt sony suround sound system.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:53 am 
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more ram, and the vid card.

Get a 16x Dual Layer DVD+/- burner. I got my pioneer one for $140.

Also, see about a 5 1/4 mount drive cooling fan set up. I am getting one for my DVD burner and Cd burner. (I put them a bay apart).

Newegg has a really nice one. goto the fan category, and serach for Hard drive/ cd rom


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Get a 16x Dual Layer DVD+/- burner. I got my pioneer one for $140.

Thats a lot for a dual layer burner you can get a nec for about half that price


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 Post subject: Re: re:What kind of speakers do you have? Otherwise i would
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:28 pm 
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googoomas wrote:
I am running my sound off of my 800 watt sony suround sound system.


Cool. I was going to suggest the Logitech z-5500's, but it sounds like you have a much better set up.

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 Post subject: Re: Help Me Decide
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:09 pm 
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googoomas wrote:
AthlonXP 3200, 512 PC2700 ram...


If you're running a 400-mhz bus chip, then you presumably have a 400mhz-bus board. In that case I'd pick up a gig of 400-mhz (PC3200) DDR.

New video card wouldn't hurt either.


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 Post subject: Re: Help Me Decide
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:01 pm 
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Random Task wrote:
googoomas wrote:
AthlonXP 3200, 512 PC2700 ram...


If you're running a 400-mhz bus chip, then you presumably have a 400mhz-bus board. In that case I'd pick up a gig of 400-mhz (PC3200) DDR.

New video card wouldn't hurt either.


I agree. Probably the best performance difference would be to get some pc3200 ram in there and run that puppy dual channel. As for video card there is no sense in wasting your time with another 128bit board. So getting a 6600gt is probably out of the question. If anything grab at least a 6800nu. But of course that will take up most of your budget. So Id say get the best Ram you can buy like some twin x Corsair platinum or something equivelent. and hell run a gig because you can damn it..


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chiller2 wrote:
I would get a 6600gt video card and another stick of 512 ram


truley getting a 6600gt is a little pointless for the performance difference he will recieve. That ram is definetly more of a bottleneck then the 9600xt he has. Now if he stepped out of the 128bit category he would actually be gaining something.. like a 6800...


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If you look at the reviews the 6600gt is not that far off from the 6800gt except at the higest resolutions which ,most people do not use anyway, and is a WHOLE lot better than even a 9800 and at 1/2 the price of the 6800 is way more bang for the buck. Yes it has limitations the 128bit and 128mb (in agp flavor ) but I still think that for $300 you will see the most performace differance with the upgrades I suggested.


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chiller2 wrote:
If you look at the reviews the 6600gt is not that far off from the 6800gt except at the higest resolutions which ,most people do not use anyway, and is a WHOLE lot better than even a 9800 and at 1/2 the price of the 6800 is way more bang for the buck. Yes it has limitations the 128bit and 128mb (in agp flavor ) but I still think that for $300 you will see the most performace differance with the upgrades I suggested.


I definetly agree with the fact that the 6600gt beats a 9800. But your also failing to talk about the pipelines and the fact that they are unlockable in a 6800nu and you can easily get speeds of a 6800gt. But of course to really benefit from either of these great cards he really needs to stop the bottle necking of the RAM. I mean cmon why run a 400mhz FSB and not 400mhz ram. Plus the man only has $300.00 in which case he really doesnt have money for both. I say buy the ram now and sell that 9600xt on ebay. Then look at the prices on the video cards you'll notice that for a mere $40.00 more you can get the leadtek 6800le and unlock the pipelines. Now if anybody says that a 6600gt is better than that tell them they are a fool and just look at the numbers..


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:23 am 
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In benchmarks the 6800 le may beat the 6600gt but I have yet to see one person post that got a le card that was happy with it . I think the 6800gt is a better card for most users and he can get the memory Muskin Memory and the video card XFX Video Card and only break his budget by $30 but he has seen both options he can decide for himself


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chiller2 wrote:
In benchmarks the 6800 le may beat the 6600gt but I have yet to see one person post that got a le card that was happy with it . I think the 6800gt is a better card for most users and he can get the memory Muskin Memory and the video card XFX Video Card and only break his budget by $30 but he has seen both options he can decide for himself


almost true except i found a post that i created last week. and Beomagi stated this..

there's 2 flavours, 900MHz memory, and 1000MHz memory, manufacturers seem to vary with what they offer.

XFX has one of the lowest costing cards, it comes with 1000MHz memory, and has dual dvi outputs which i haven't seen other cards carry.

BFG may oc their cards, but so can you

if you're looking at $250, i'd seriously say toss in $10 more and get a 6800nu. I went for a ledtek($275) because so far, their rep for unlocking is awesome. Even without unlocked pipes, you're still faster than the 6600GT at higher resolutions.

If your also interested take a look at the post
http://www.maximumpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11758

all im saying is weight your options the 6800 is not much at all more in price and for the performance difference its worth it. Specially if your looking at longevity.


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here is another link to unlocking your card and if you read the article you'll notice why i picked the leadtek as well..

http://www.ocia.net/articles/6800/6800.shtml


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