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 Post subject: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:16 am 
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Greetings,
I'm trying to build my first pc and I'm in a little over my head I'm afraid.

What I want my pc to be able to do:
1. Be able to play recent games at the high end of their settings without pushing the cpu and gpu to their limits.

2. Handle programs such as Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator

3. If possible I'd like to be able to run Photoshop on one monitor while I have a reference picture displayed on the other.

My maximum budget is $1400 for the tower only

I've got a partial build set up on pcpartpicker which I'll list below

MSI Z97-GAMING 7 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
A-Data XPG V2 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Seagate 600 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case
Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
AOC q2963Pm 60Hz 29.0" Monitor

Recycled components
acer 17" monitor
logitech keyboard and mouse
speakers

Will bottlenecking be an issue with this motherboard and cpu?

Is there a non-overclocked graphics card for under $200 that can do what I listed above? If so, any recommendations?

Can any components on my list be replaced with something cheaper that is equal to or better than the listed item in terms of performance and quality?

Any recommendations on a particular brand of power supply?

Thank you in advance for your time, advice, and suggestions!


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 Post subject: Re: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:36 am 
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Let's start with the questions

Will bottlenecking be an issue with this motherboard and cpu?
I find it funny, I just posted a topic about this. The short answer? No. The long answer? No if only because the processor performs significantly faster than the bare minimum requirements to run any game (which is where I would claim is the slowest processor before you should probably start worrying)

Is there a non-overclocked graphics card for under $200 that can do what I listed above? If so, any recommendations?
Assuming the primary monitor is 1080p, there's quite a few. Except most modern games are GPU bottlenecked, so they're all going to fail the "without pushing the GPU to the limits" requirement.

Can any components on my list be replaced with something cheaper that is equal to or better than the listed item in terms of performance and quality?
Yes, I will revise your parts list.

Any recommendations on a particular brand of power supply?
Any of Seasonic's or Corsair's. Rosewill Capstone is also a good model series.

  • MSI Z97-GAMING 7 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
    I'd suggest something cheaper, in the $120-$150 range, unless you have a need for the features the motherboard has. It looks like it's geared towards audiophile stuff... but higher end stuff just buys you nice-to-have features, they don't really tend to sacrifice quality.
  • Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
    Get a Core i5-4690K, it's $100 cheaper and for photo editing work (assuming Photoshop doesn't take advantage of your GPU) you may lose up to 20% performance. But for gaming, you lost practically nothing.
  • A-Data XPG V2 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
    Get DDR3-1600 RAM. There's almost no real benefit buying faster RAM.
  • Seagate 600 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
    Swap this out for a Samsung or Crucial SSD, they're more reputable.

So I'm going to assume you've hit $1200 with your original build (since your budget is $1400 and you're looking for a $200 card). If you change out the motherboard, CPU, and RAM, you can get up to about $150. $350 for a video card will do a whole lot better than $200.

And for this build, you should be fine with a 500W-600W PSU.


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 Post subject: Re: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:00 am 
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Thank you very much for your help and for saving me quite a bit of money! Sorry I didn't see your video on bottlenecking before I posted the question though; I'll check it out now.


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 Post subject: Re: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:41 am 
Smithfield
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I think the timing was just enough that you wouldn't have seen it anyway, so no worries :P


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 Post subject: Re: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:05 pm 
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I have another question, I just finished up my build which I'll post below; will a 600 watt psu still be enough? And if so, will I be able to add another SSD at a later point? (I just want to be absolutely sure I got everything right before I expend that much money on parts)


Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Asus Z97-AR ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card
Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
AOC q2963Pm 60Hz 29.0" Monitor
Acer 17" monitor

Thank you again for your time and advice!


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 Post subject: Re: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:08 pm 
Smithfield
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That all looks good, power supply included. And yes you can add another SSD down the road as long as you have the interface for it.


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 Post subject: Re: First time builder requesting a little help
PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:26 am 
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Thanks again for the help as it's greatly appreciated!


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