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Which one?
Deepcool Gamma 50 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Deepcool Gammaxx 300 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Cooler Master Blizzard T2 100%  100%  [ 1 ]
Deepcool ICEEDGE 200T 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Deepcool Beta 200 ST 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Deepcool Gamma Archer 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Deepcool Gammaxx 300 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:46 am 
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Hello. I am given the option between these 7 coolers for my rig. Which one do you guys think is best and will most likely fit inside my case? Also, will it be compatible with my FM2+ Mobo? The 7 coolers are:
1.) Deepcool Gamma 50
2.) Deepcool Gammaxx 300
3.) Cooler Master Blizzard T2
4.) Deepcool ICEEDGE 200T
5.) Deepcool Beta 200 ST
6.) Deepcool Gamma Archer
7.) Deepcool Gammaxx 300

And just in case, my rig is:
APU - AMD Richland A10-6790K
MOBO - Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3
RAM - Gskill Ripjaws X 8gb 4gbx2 DDR3 1866 CL9 (F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL)
HDD - Toshiba 500GB 32mb 7200rpm Sata3
PSU - Corsair VS450
ATX - Emaxx Rebel
ODD - Lite-on iHas524 DVD-RW SATA
CASE - Cougar Spike


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:41 am 
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I'm going to be a jerk here.

Go look those up on Google. You can have questions like compatibility solved by going to their product pages (though as a hidden hint that isn't obvious, anything compatible with AM2/AM3/AM3+ works with FM2) and which cooler is better by looking up reviews.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:30 am 
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Ok then. Maybe you can help me out with compatibilty? I know now how motherboard compatibility works after researching but how about Voltage? I see 95w, 110w and other stuffs like that for mobos and coolers. What do they mean and how are they relevant?


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:09 am 
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Those numbers are the Thermal Design Power of the part. It's the amount of heat energy a cooling system is required to dissipate in order for the processor to maintain safe operating temperatures. It has nothing to do with power consumption.

Unfortunately there's no way to tell if a heat sink actually meets the requirement or exceeds it (and by how much) other than "does it have more material than the stock cooler?" I guess you can just go by how much the part weighs against the stock cooler.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:10 pm 
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I think I'll just go with the most expensive one then (Gamma 50) to be extra safe. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:17 pm 
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Out of those 7 options, the Gammaxx 400 - it's basically a Hyper 212+ clone. I've seen 160mm tall HSF's used in the Cougar Spike, the Gammaxx 400 is 159mm tall, so you're good on clearance as long as you don't put a side fan in the side panel.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:59 am 
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chaosdsm wrote:
Out of those 7 options, the Gammaxx 400 - it's basically a Hyper 212+ clone. I've seen 160mm tall HSF's used in the Cougar Spike, the Gammaxx 400 is 159mm tall, so you're good on clearance as long as you don't put a side fan in the side panel.

Hi. Great suggestion. So far I've narrowed it down to just two after your suggestion. So which one would you say is better, the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 or Cooler Master Vortex Plus? I've narrowed it down to these two because they are priced exactly the same in my country.

Edit: Nvm. Answered my own question. Gonna go for the Gammaxx 400. :) I just want clarification though, what do you mean by "As long as you don't put a side fan in the side panel"? What is the reasoning behind this?


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:47 am 
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Because a side fan will crowd out the HSF, necessitating measurement to make sure both will fit next to each other.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:56 am 
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Oh thanks for the answer. Just an update, I read reviews about the 212 EVO and I see that it is very much well received. Should I got for the 212 EVO or stick with the Gammaxx 400? My only problem is that the 212 EVO is very hard to find here in my country (Philippines).


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:05 am 
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If you can get a 212 evo I highly recommend it. If not stay with your choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:24 am 
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Honestly, those A series processors run cool to start with. Unless you plan to try to overclock the A10 past 4.5GHz, you won't need more than the GammaXX 400.

That said, the EVO is a better cooler thanks to larger diameter heat pipes, but it is the same height as the GammaXX 400, so fit would be the same. This means that the EVO can operate at a slightly lower noise level (when using the same fan on both coolers), if that's a factor for you. It's also efficient enough to keep my I7-3930K cool while encoding (with 6 cores / 12 threads) a 48 minute home movie to Blu-Ray when 2 fans are attached.

RE: the side fan... the Spike is a fairly narrow case at just 180mm wide, while these coolers are 159mm tall. About 19mm - 20mm of the difference is taken up by the motherboard, motherboard stand-off's, and height of the CPU on top of the motherboard, leaving about 1mm - 2mm between the top of the cooler & the side of the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:30 am 
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chaosdsm wrote:
Honestly, those A series processors run cool to start with. Unless you plan to try to overclock the A10 past 4.5GHz, you won't need more than the GammaXX 400.

That said, the EVO is a better cooler thanks to larger diameter heat pipes, but it is the same height as the GammaXX 400, so fit would be the same. This means that the EVO can operate at a slightly lower noise level (when using the same fan on both coolers), if that's a factor for you. It's also efficient enough to keep my I7-3930K cool while encoding (with 6 cores / 12 threads) a 48 minute home movie to Blu-Ray when 2 fans are attached.

RE: the side fan... the Spike is a fairly narrow case at just 180mm wide, while these coolers are 159mm tall. About 19mm - 20mm of the difference is taken up by the motherboard, motherboard stand-off's, and height of the CPU on top of the motherboard, leaving about 1mm - 2mm between the top of the cooler & the side of the case.


Would you say that the stock cooler is good enough? I'm only getting a cooler since I read a lot about people having bad temps with their A10 APU's. However, I also read from somewhere that programs can't read APU temps properly hence the high temp reads although I'm not really sure if that's true to begin with or if it's applicable to all APU's.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:02 am 
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Mods please delete, was a double post


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:13 am 
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pabben wrote:
chaosdsm wrote:
Honestly, those A series processors run cool to start with. Unless you plan to try to overclock the A10 past 4.5GHz, you won't need more than the GammaXX 400.

That said, the EVO is a better cooler thanks to larger diameter heat pipes, but it is the same height as the GammaXX 400, so fit would be the same. This means that the EVO can operate at a slightly lower noise level (when using the same fan on both coolers), if that's a factor for you. It's also efficient enough to keep my I7-3930K cool while encoding (with 6 cores / 12 threads) a 48 minute home movie to Blu-Ray when 2 fans are attached.

RE: the side fan... the Spike is a fairly narrow case at just 180mm wide, while these coolers are 159mm tall. About 19mm - 20mm of the difference is taken up by the motherboard, motherboard stand-off's, and height of the CPU on top of the motherboard, leaving about 1mm - 2mm between the top of the cooler & the side of the case.


Would you say that the stock cooler is good enough? I'm only getting a cooler since I read a lot about people having bad temps with their A10 APU's. However, I also read from somewhere that programs can't read APU temps properly hence the high temp reads although I'm not really sure if that's true to begin with or if it's applicable to all APU's.


??? Haven't seen the A10 stock cooler in action, so I cannot say for sure. But I know the stock cooler for my mom's A8 (original Llano series) was horrible, tiny aluminum cooler without heatpipes (looked like it belonged on an original Pentium), temps shot up to over 80C just browsing internet, & computer would lock up after just a few minutes. Put a Scythe Big Shuriken on it & temps now stay under 40C & no lockups.

One reviewer said about the stock A10-6800K cooler (probably same as the 6790K cooler) "AMD stock cooler barely managed to keep things under control at stock" so perhaps not much of an improvement over the old Llano cooler???


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:29 am 
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Oh ok thanks for that. But since you mentioned that I don't need a good cooler anyway if I'm not planning to OC the cpu, then maybe I'll just go with a cheaper cooler like the Deepcool Beta 200 ST. Thanks for the help.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me pick a cooler.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:53 am 
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pabben wrote:
Oh ok thanks for that. But since you mentioned that I don't need a good cooler anyway if I'm not planning to OC the cpu, then maybe I'll just go with a cheaper cooler like the Deepcool Beta 200 ST. Thanks for the help.


You certainly could, but just be aware that with 2 heatpipes & 92mm fan instead of 4 heatpipes & 120mm fan, the cooler will most likely be several decibels louder than the Gammaxx 400 under load.


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