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 Post subject: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:12 pm 
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Hi
XP SP3 32bit
C Drive on PC1
Seagate 1TB HDD.
Seagate SeaTools says its ok.
Malwarebytes and Antivirus says no problemo.
chkdsk Repair says no bad sectors.

chkdsk Fix says:
Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive.
Cleaning up 261 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 261 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 261 unused security descriptors.

Windoze then restarts like its spoze to, then I immediately run chkdsk Fix again and it says:
Cleaning up 9 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 9 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 9 unused security descriptors.

Windoze then restarts like its spoze to, then I immediately run chkdsk Fix again and it says:
Cleaning up 2 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 2 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 2 unused security descriptors.

No matter how may times I chkdsk Fix I always get
Cleaning up X unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up X unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up X unused security descriptors.

Whereas all three X are each the same number, but different each time I chkdsk Fix.
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AND as if that aint enuff........
I have 3 PCs all XP SP3 32bit
PC1 is a very High end system, PC2 medium end system, PC3 low end system.

ALL three of them are reporting exactly the same type recurring of HDD errors on C Drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:34 am 
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The only thing common between the two is your network. I'd say you've got yourself a nasty little virus or malware.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:57 am 
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Jipstyle wrote:
The only thing common between the two is your network. I'd say you've got yourself a nasty little virus or malware.

There is not 2 there is 3.
I dont have a network.
I said there is no virus or malware, cant you read??


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:34 am 
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Why, yes, he can read. And when he said two, he meant between your computers, the network and the problem being experienced between them all.
Malwarebytes and your favorite flavor of anti-virus don't catch everything.
Try a few other programs and you just might find something. Guarantee on that? No.
Don't let your frustration with this problem get to you. When your frustration spills over into your posts the results you get will diminish as we won't put up with that.
You want help? Be civil.
Here's another program to try: http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/ ... ctivescan/
Here is something else. HiJackThis, this only scans but doesn't give you the option of removing anything. It does provide a log file that can then be looked at by people 'in the know' for oddities and other general crud. You would post the log file here or even at the hijackthis forum. Google that.
Here's the program dl link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hjt/
Yet another program to try: http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/fr ... otkit.aspx
It's unlikely that you have a boot sector virus but you never know. You can google info on that if you are so inclined.
Give those a try and let us know how things turn out.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:11 am 
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magnus wrote:
....Windoze then restarts like its spoze to, then I immediately run chkdsk Fix again....

Stop running chkdsk, there is nothing wrong with your drives. Ignore the error messages. Not sure why it is happening on all 3 systems, but you should post on MS forum while XP is still under support. I am pretty certain they will say the same thing.

To determine if more serious problems exist before scheduling or running chkdsk.exe with the /f switch, run chkntfs <drive letter>:. If this command reports that dirty bit is set, there may be real damage that needs to be fixed. source

edit: interesting...I would start your own thread and refer to this unanswered one. One more thing, lose the attitude, nobody gets paid to respond to you. They donate their time...or not.

edit 2: How long since you last defragged your pagefile, etc?

How full are your drives?

If you run chkdsk /f from safe mode, and then reboot once again into safe mode and run it again does it report the same errors? If so, then a startup app (in all 3 PCs) is the culprit.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:25 am 
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dedgar wrote:
Why, yes, he can read. And when he said two, he meant between your computers, the network and the problem being experienced between them all.

Network??
What network??
THERE IS NO NETWORK!

dedgar wrote:
Malwarebytes and your favorite flavor of anti-virus don't catch everything.
Try a few other programs and you just might find something. Guarantee on that? No.

For the last time, there is no virus or malware.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:40 am 
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FascistNation wrote:
run chkntfs <drive letter>:. If this command reports that dirty bit is set, there may be real damage that needs to be fixed.

Hi FascistNation
chkntfs reports C: is not dirty.

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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:20 pm 
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magnus wrote:
Network??
What network??
THERE IS NO NETWORK!


No need to get your panties in a wad.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:24 pm 
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dedgar wrote:
No need to get your panties in a wad.

I need help to solve this problem so stop trolling me dedgar.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:38 pm 
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Hi FascistNation

FascistNation wrote:
How long since you last defragged your pagefile, etc?

Page file, MBR, and other system files Etc were defragged yesterday.


FascistNation wrote:
How full are your drives?

Not very full.
FascistNation wrote:
If you run chkdsk /f from safe mode, and then reboot once again into safe mode and run it again does it report the same errors? If so, then a startup app (in all 3 PCs) is the culprit.


I ran chkdsk /f at boot time, always get same errors only X number is always different.
I will try your safe mode routine and see.

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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:09 pm 
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Hello FascistNation

I did your safemode routine 3 times in a row, all errors were corrected and did not recur in safemode.
That means there is something in startup common to all 3 PCs thats causing the problem.

What is my next step???

thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:53 pm 
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Hello FascistNation

Further to my last post, using msconfig in "diagnostic startup" only 2 services running, DCOM server process launcher and remote procedure call, both essential, ran chkdsk /f from bootup 3 times in a row, got same old error messages.

What is my next step???

thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:14 pm 
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FascistNation wrote:
Stop running chkdsk, there is nothing wrong with your drives. Ignore the error messages. Not sure why it is happening on all 3 systems, but you should post on MS forum while XP is still under support. I am pretty certain they will say the same thing.

I'm going to agree with Fascist:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-performance/what-causes-this-cleaning-up-12-unused-index/7adf0d5a-5992-4abb-ad94-2b0ecfe0d24f

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:18 pm 
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Is anything actually broken? Is this causing an issue with your OS's or programs or, umm, anything? A problem that's not a problem is no problem. How big is the MFT on each machine? How many entries? Check out the link btdog gave. This is nothing.

BTW, while I don't think this problem is related to network/malware you were really acting like a jerk. With three affected computers it seems like a reasonable inference that they are located in close physical proximity and are all on-line. The most likely setup is that they are each connected to a router. This would mean that there is a network of some sort. Maybe that's wrong, maybe the three machines are scattered over the face of the globe and have never connected to anything, at any rate if someone who is going out of his way to help you has a misunderstanding there is nothing wrong with politely clarifying the situation, but no reason to get all snippy. Nobody is trolling you. Take a deep breath.
Frankly, I think the whole thing is pointless. What led to running CHKDSK to begin with? Something you just do periodically or...?


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:00 am 
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MFT is about 70MB, about 40,000 files.
I say again, there is no network.
Only one PC is online, and that is slow dialup.

As for being a jerk, I said at the beginning, there is no virus or malware, there is no network, how many times do I have to say that before I get snippy? If you pull on a dogs tail till he turns around and bites you do you then smack him for getting snippy??

The only one that offered some real help was FascistNation, you dont hear me snipping at him do you??


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
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How many times do you have to say it before you get snippy? How bout more than once. Oh well, it's my fault, I tried to help you like a human being. Apparently you're an abused cur. Piss off.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:11 am 
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I am assuming you temporarily stopped off all startup apps as well?
magnus wrote:
...What is my next step?

Ignore it or as I said earlier, start your own thread post on MS forum and refer to this unanswered one because I am completely stumped at this point.

I would list out the problem and then everything you have done to try and fix it.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:20 am 
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magnus wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
The only thing common between the two is your network. I'd say you've got yourself a nasty little virus or malware.

There is not 2 there is 3.
I dont have a network.
I said there is no virus or malware, cant you read??


So you're posting using magic?

Hey .. do me a favor. Insult me again.


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 Post subject: Re: Recurrent Hdd Errors??
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:21 am 
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magnus wrote:
For the last time, there is no virus or malware.


Last time for 3 days, anyway.

When you ban expires, you can come back and try being polite.


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