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 Post subject: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:35 pm 
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Ok, so I'm trying to defragment my storage drive. 2 Tb Hitachi 7500 RPM. It's been almost 24 hours and only 38% complete.

Is this right?

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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:45 pm 
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Depending on how fragmented the drive is and how full it is, yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:09 pm 
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It's not even half full. And only 14% fragmented...


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:44 pm 
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Azgaryth wrote:
Ok, so I'm trying to defragment my storage drive. 2 Tb Hitachi 7500 RPM. It's been almost 24 hours and only 38% complete.

Is this right?

Win 7 Pro 64
i7 960 2.6 GHz OC to 3.2 GHz
6 Gb DDR3


When you run defragment you need to make sure there are no programs that will write to the drive during that time, or it might start over. Or in best case start from where it left off.

You gave some specs but not who made the computer...Dell... etc... This makes a difference in the type of help we can give.

I would boot with a MS config in diagnostic mode and run it from there.

Go to start type msconfig in the search box. Choose the diagnostic start up THEN reboot......

Run defragment


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:25 pm 
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It's not a brand. I built it myself. And no programs ever run on my D: drive. It is storage like I said.

I just ran the built in Windows defrag. Weird...


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:24 am 
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Can anyone enlighten me on this?


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:09 am 
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is this an internal drive or external?
windows could have been trying to index the drive at the same time as the defrag.
also, what time did you start the defrag? unless you disabled the schedule, windows 7 automatically runs a defrag on the drives. 1am on wednesdays i believe is the standard start time, its possible that if they were both trying to run at the same time, that could also cause the conflict and slow things down.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:34 am 
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I turn off schedules the minute I install and OS...


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:58 am 
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It does sound like it is way too long on defragging. It really depends upon how loaded down your PC OS is, how you have it configured, what options you asked the defragmenting app to do, what defrag app you used, and the drive and its amount of defragmentation.

The fastest defragger I know if is an oldie but goodie $40 app: Vopt. I rarely defrag anymore and don't find it all that rewarding so I wouldn't pay for such an app any more. But to each their own.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:12 pm 
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Azgaryth wrote:
It's not a brand. I built it myself. And no programs ever run on my D: drive. It is storage like I said.

I just ran the built in Windows defrag. Weird...


Storage drive.... not sure why you would defrag that at all. But it does not mean that programs are not writing to that drive Humm anyway good luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:13 pm 
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I don't know if you all missed the point, but the subject of this post is Defraggler, defragging software. I tried it on my storage drive, mainly out of curiosity. After a few years of adding and deleting files I thought it might be a good idea.

Defraggler might have worked, but I stopped it after ~24 hours. I started it at approximately 8pm before I went to bed. The idea is that it would be done after I got home from work the next day. That did not happen.

So, I just ran the built-in Windows defragmenting program. That one actually finished.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:48 pm 
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All this time I'm thinking though...

  • If you don't do a lot of delete and write operations, you won't really need to defrag ever.
  • Windows already does defragging in the background
  • Very serious fragmentation must occur before performance starts to become noticeably worse.

And I read something that you should defrag your drives in a timely manner because even if you don't see a performance degradation and you leave your drives fragmented, your drive still works harder. But then you have to tell me what's a fine line between defragging and letting it go until I need it? Plus different defragging programs report different things. Defraggler for instance claims my HDD is 2% fragmented, but Windows' built in says 0%.

I dunno, it's just one of those things that Microsoft has improved but people still hold onto it.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:15 am 
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I seriously want to upgrade my C: (Windows) drive to an SSD...

Maybe if the prices come down, my storage drives too...


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:12 am 
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Azgaryth wrote:
I seriously want to upgrade my C: (Windows) drive to an SSD...

I don't think things will come down much more. Smaller drives will fade and larger drives will take their place in the price point. But you can grab a good 120Gb SSD (with 3.5" conversion) today for under $100.

If all you want is a drive for Windows then a 32-64Gb SSD will do.

I will say I am not overwhelmed with performance of SSDs on a SATA II connection...so if your board does not have native SATA III I don't think you will be all that impressed.


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:42 pm 
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Honestly it's not the bandwidth that I find is what makes an SSD amazing (I keep pointing out there's a strange logarithmic performance curve if you add more bandwidth). It's great, but what makes them amazing is their snappiness because of the low access latency.

To put it in perspective, even if your hard drive is defragmented, may not mean that the pertinent data is contiguous. So if I'm loading say Firefox, then the main program may be in a contiguous row of sectors, but my configuration files may be scattered all over. Not necessarily fragmented, but the drive still has to find and seek the proper sector. Average case is like what? 10-20ms? Those add up if you're trying to grab hundreds of small files!


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 Post subject: Re: Defreggler???
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:08 am 
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Have you run a complete virus scan of your system? Rootkits? Also watch where the defrag program bogs down. Is it always the same place or file?


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